Talk:Sikhism

Ridiculous claims of 120 million Sikhs with spurious sources

Removing these. Unreferenced news articles are not adequate sources for this claim — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.54.107.213 (talk • contribs) 21:28, September 20, 2021 (UTC)

Inaccurate edits made by User without sources to back it

This User:Joshua_Jonathan has made an this edit alongside a few others all of a sudden since last week. Which is strange as this did not happen for over 6 months since the info box was created. One of those users who made an edit was User:Mattansilk who was also banned for being sockpuppet ( Just to reiterate I am not saying Joshua or others are related parties of Mattansilk). **Also to note they have made these edits with NO sources and constantly reverting them**

I have no issue with it being referred to as a Dharmic faith. As we share some similar core values and beliefs and should maintain unity with each other.

So the two issues i want to address was: 1) Slogan: This user along with the other users who made the same edits are finding it hard to differentiate between a Sikh jakhaira/Slogan (Bole So Nihal, Sat Sri Akal) and Sikh greeting (Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Fateh). As per Bole So Nihal it clearly states this is the Sikh Slogan as well. https://www.discoversikhism.com/sikhism/bole_so_nihal_sat_sri_akal.html

2) Sikhism did not separate from Hinduism or any other religion. Sikhs themselves view Guru Nanak was Sikh from birth as the Gurus are a reflection of God. There are many instances of Guru Nanak rejected Hindu practices from at a young age such as sacred thread, caste system etc...

I.e He rejected the sacred Hindu thread as a young boy. Furthermore in the Sri Guru Granth Sahib he states "ਹਜ ਕਾਬੈ ਜਾਉ ਨ ਤੀਰਥ ਪੂਜਾ ॥ Haj Kaabai Jaao N Theerathh Poojaa || I do not make pilgrimages to Mecca, nor do I worship at Hindu sacred shrines."

@Usingh0663 , @Jattlife121 , @Javerine , @Ronnie Macroni , @Twarikh e Khalsa - Can also share more light on this.

Householder in Beliefs

Was confused about the term householder and hoped someone could clear it up? Does this suggest that you need to be a good family member / spouse or a good neighbour? Or maybe that if you're your own house that your head should be 'screwed on straight'? Numlk20xx (talk) 07:27, 1 September 2023 (UTC)

In Indian philosophy, it's called the grahastha (meaning a householder), one of the four stages (ashrams) of life. Although technically it refers to a married person as against the bachelor (called the brahmachari), for all practical purposes, it refers to anyone among the general public—the John Q Public—or simply the common man (married or unmarried). It's a pan-Indian concept and can be found in various Indian works such as the Tirukkural. Rasnaboy (talk) 11:57, 1 September 2023 (UTC)

Life after death

In Sikhism is there life after death? 2001:E68:5405:3DEE:D554:DDA9:D2D1:5D53 (talk) 13:07, 13 September 2023 (UTC)

Disputed

The authorship of some of the prominent Sikh-texts seems to be disputed; but the info-box does not mention the authorship, only the fact of being Sikh-texts; that is not disputed, is it? Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 18:17, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

if you read the source you would see if the authorship is disputed then also the fact that its a Sikh text or not

please don't start edit warring and wait for an answer in the talk column before making edits Dopplegangman (talk) 22:48, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

please don't start edit warring and wait for an answer in the talk column before making edits Pot, meet kettle. MrOllie (talk) 22:51, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

why have you reverted the edits where there sourced material

you have done this on multiple occasions

you need to stop edit warring as there is now sourced material

please don't start edit warring and wait for an answer in the talk column before making edits Pot, meet kettle.Pot, meet kettle Dopplegangman (talk) 22:57, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

You're going to get blocked if you don't stop and get agreement before you continue to edit. You are the one who is edit warring on multiple pages against multiple other people. MrOllie (talk) 22:59, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

agreement with who there is sourced materisl? Dopplegangman (talk) 23:00, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

Other Wikipedia editors. You need to get WP:CONSENSUS in favor of your edits. Sourcing is only a part of that. The simple fact that you cited a source does not mean that no one can ever revert you again or that all editors must agree with you by default. MrOllie (talk) 23:03, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

ok could you help me do this as i am new Dopplegangman (talk) 23:04, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

many Sikhs disputed the fact that it is a Sikh text and authored by guru Gobind Singh so should be added in the Sikh text column source Debating the Dasam Granth if you have anymore sources please add to the wiki Dopplegangman (talk) 22:46, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

That there are some questions about authorship (as there are for almost any scripture from any established religion) is not a reason to put the word 'disputed' into the article as you have been. MrOllie (talk) 23:01, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

yes but when you place the book there without saying disputed it misleads people Dopplegangman (talk) 23:03, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

I followed your link; you do seem to have a point here. Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 05:26, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

thank you I understand there are other sources due to the fact there is no evidence to the claim that he authored it that dates back to him so if you find anymore sources please add it Dopplegangman (talk) 10:48, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

Classification as an Indian religion

Who classified this who are they to classify it why do we have to classify it why not state it as an Punjabi religion ancient Vedic religion started in Punjab also this is the same as Jainism and some sources also suggest Buddha was a Punjabi prince Dopplegangman (talk) 13:00, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

Life after death

Someone write about the different interpretation of life after death in Sikhism like going back with god like a droplet of water create a page under philosophy like this Dopplegangman (talk) 13:17, 5 January 2024 (UTC)