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Redirects needed

Greenville, S.C. absolutely should redirect to this article.
So many people nowadays have no idea how attractive such abbreviations as Raleigh, N.C., Charlotte, N.C., Charleston, S.C., Columbia, S.C., Atlanta, Ga., Augusta, Ga., Birmingham, Ala., Miami, Fla., Nashville, Tenn., Lexington, Ky., Greensboro, N.C., and Spartanburg, S.C. have always been. They just want to take the lazy way out. 98.81.21.201 (talk) 05:20, 29 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

History

Why is there no history section whatsoever for this article? Surely it wasn't just founded today? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.90.105.45 (talk) 01:49, 23 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I was just wondering the same thing... UpstateExec (talk) 01:52, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Nicknames

--I can't imagine anyone living in Greenville and never having heard it called "G-Vegas". Anyone under 40 that is. Greenville is G-Vegas, like Spartenburg is Sparkle-city. Greensquared-ville is much less common, I've heard of it, but I've never heard of the city refered to as such in conversation. There should be a nickname section, and G-Ville and G-Vegas should be the top of the list. Like someone mentioned on here, there are thousands or references to it on google, and on social sites like myspace, people often put G-Vegas as their hometown. There's no reason not to have it on here. -A proud resident of G-Vegas —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.156.58.34 (talk) 18:49, 14 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

There is a Greenville in nearly, if not all, 50 states, and nearly, if not all of them, are referred to as g-vegas. Beach drifter (talk) 02:32, 24 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Isnt Greenville also called

G-ville and (Green Square)ville

I've never heard Greenville, SC called "(Green Square)ville". I also see that "GreenVegas" and "G-Vegas" are listed on this page as nicknames. I've never heard of those, either. Where are these nicknames coming from? I think they should be removed. Also, "G-ville" is more of an abbreviation than a nickname. I'm not sure it should be listed. Here's what kind of nicknames belong on a city article:

New York: the Big Apple
Chicago: the Windy City, Chi-Town
Detroit: the Motor City, Motown

Those are all common nicknames that locals agree on and outsiders recognize. I don't think Greenville, SC really has a nickname in that sense. I'll leave G-ville and G-town for now, but I'm removing the others.

--Wechselstrom 19:02, 27 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

G-Vegas is a pretty popular nickname for Greenville. I've never heard it called G-ville or G-town. I think all of the nicknames are so rarely used that they aren't worth mentioning. I know Anderson is "The Electric City" and official nicknames like that seem like they'd be better suited than nicknames that most people never hear... I'd delete them all.

--PabloMartinez 15:19, 4 December 2005 (EST)

I removed the entire nickname section so that no one will feel the need to put anything there. --Wechselstrom 06:36, 12 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

A search for "GVegas South Carolina" returned over 3000 hits on Google. I know that I have heard it called GVegas, mostly by guys in to playing poker.--chaswell 18:44, 28 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

In my experience "G-Vegas" seems to be a nickname most commonly used in high school and colleges around the area. It's nowhere near being nationally or officially recognized as a nickname. --TheKoG 22:11, 5 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Greenville is often referred to as G-Vegas by locals in the area, especially on MySpace.com. Green Squareville comes from a popular t-shirt logo in the area showing a green square with the word "ville" beside it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.157.139.194 (talk • contribs) .

I can't dispute the validity of the G-Vegas nickname, but I've lived in or around Greenville for over 40 years and have never heard that until I found it here. Video Poker was outlawed in SC years ago in favor of the lottery.Kf4mgz 10:01, 24 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I refer to the city almost exclusively as G-Vegas. Whether it's encyclopedic knowledge is questionable. --Garrepi 14:28, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Greenville used to be called Tex-town. This was due to the overwhelming number of textile mills but all of that is gone. Peabo Bryson's first band was called the Tex-Town Allstar's. The cover of that now rare album was taken on Highway 291. G-Vegas is a bad nickname. It says nothing

about the city and in any case is derogatory for peoples lack of enthusiasm for the Greenville. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Drilltone (talk • contribs) 15:18, 4 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Population

We sem to be differing whether to use the Metropolitan Stat Area or the Combined Stat Area for the metro population figure. I would opt for the MSA, since CSA would be more applicable to the Upstate 3-city area as a whole. Comments?AllanJ 18:22, 25 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I would have to agree with you AllanJ. Greenville is very small in population within the city limits, but the MSA is actually rather large, and Greenville is the largest population center within SC. I feel that the MSA gives a more representative example for the Greenville area. You've got literally about a million people that call Greenville home.Kf4mgz 11:38, 24 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The Bible belt

Been there on business once. Don't try to find a restaurant on a Sunday evening after 6 p.m. - they are all closed! Had to rely on expensive (yet quite good) hotel food... --Pmkpmk 19:12, 4 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It is hard to believe that so many of the respondants below did not pay any attention at all to Sunday evening. It should be clear that a huge number of restaurants are open in the middle of the day to server Sunday Dinner out - a great Southern custom. Then, they close down late in the afternoon and do not serve food during Sunday evening and night. I wish that people would pay attention to what they read.

98.81.21.201 (talk) 05:11, 29 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Impossible. Greenville has an extremely high restaurant per capita. In fact, I live about 20 minutes south of downtown Greenville, and there are literally 50+ restaurants within a five mile radius of my house (confirmed with MapPoint). There is no possible way you couldn't find a place to eat on Sunday. Other than Chick Fil-A, I can only think of little mom & pop places that may be closed on Sunday.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by GreenvilleRealtor (talk • contribs) .

Come on, plenty of places to eat on a Sunday. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by AllanJenkins (talk • contribs) .

No places to eat on a Sunday? Are you sure you were in Greenville? About the only place that isn't open on a Sunday is Chick-Fil-A. Maybe 20 years ago... Probably 200-300 choices open on a Sunday night. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Pablomartinez (talk • contribs) .

Obviously there are places to eat on Sunday, but there are many businesses that shut down on Sunday which can make that day a little dull sometimes in Greenville. If you look past the original exaggeration there's still the fact that you have fewer choices on where to eat on Sunday than you would have on any other day. (Also, remember to sign your comments.) --TheKoG 13:46, 20 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Lots of places to eat and even drink on Sunday in Greenville now. It's not the most happening city on Sunday, but it's possible to have dinner and a drink on Sunday evenings.Kf4mgz 10:09, 24 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think it would do well to mention that there is a distinct difference between what is Greenville (City) and Greenville (Mailing). While many people consider "downtown" to be places other than actual downtown the area of DownTown Greenville (for the purpose of this section) is from Stone Ave/Laurens Road to University Ridge; only a 6-8 square mile area with the most prominant downtown area being on Main Street between Beattie Place and W. Washington. The restaraunts in downtown Greenville and within it's City Limits are now allowed to serve alcohol on Sundays where as in the past this was not so. However, everything on the outskirts (typically Haywood Road and beyond) are not. Smoking in the Downtown Area (as of January '07) will go the way of NY and LA in that it will not be permitted within range of public shops and eateries. Still, Greenville is considered to be in the Bible Belt but it is more readily seen in the legal systems and the Blue List posted at Wal-Mart than in the day to day processes of most Greenvillians. Wuldulf MD 11:55, 26 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Education - Geneva Reformed Seminary missed out. This is a bible college

List of Neighborhoods

Is there any real reason why this section is in the article? As just a list with no descriptions or anything worth noting about any of the places it just seems like a large empty space. --TheKoG 22:11, 5 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. If necessary, it could be spun off as a separate page. If not, it should be deleted. --Wechselstrom 12:17, 17 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Why not list the different neighborhoods in the area? You have the west side of town, with Berea, City View, & Monaghan. To the northeast, there's Slater-Marietta & Travelers Rest. The downtown area could be seen as a neighborhood in itself. To the northeast, there's Taylors & Greer; the rapidly-expanding eastside has Simpsonville, Mauldin, & Fountain Inn.

Most of the neighborhoods listed in the article that is now split off are just subdivisions within Fountain Inn, Greer, Mauldin, Simpsonville, Taylors, and Travelers Rest. All of these are in Greenville County and not Greenville proper. If we want Greenville proper, how many neighborhoods are there? Chris (talk) 15:03, 17 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Nicknames are correct

The Green square Ville is actually a T-shirt design with a green square with the word Ville following. "G-Vegas" is a popular name for Greenville and the nearby city of Spartanburg is sometimes called "Sparkle city". Why would you not include a town's nicknames?

I've heard "Sparkleburg" used occasionally, but not G-Vegas.216.203.6.12 15:03, 3 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Transportation

How 'bout a reference to GSP being the state's busiest airport? Columbia seems to be about the same size to me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.97.201.54 (talk) 04:02, 26 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Are there any references for the light rail claims? I'll buy that it's in early planning stages, but I'm not sure if it's fair to say that LRT "will link suburban commuter stations with urban destinations, office parks, and retail centers." Reference to the SEHSR Corridor also seems speculative... according to the SEHSR website, the Greenville leg is still in the "feasibility" stage of planning. --Garrepi 14:42, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, Clemson University's City & Regional Planning Program recently completed a feasibility study for light-rail opportunities in the Greenville area, principally focused on connecting the "Golden Strip" communities of Fountain Inn, Simpsonville, and Mauldin, along with ICAR, the Greenville downtown airport and the new Verdae development with downtown Greenville. While light-rail federal funding is currently at a 30 to 40 year wait list, it is a plausible project that has the support of the city council.

Karl Sanders

Why has Karl Sanders repeatedly been removed from the "Notable People" list? He is a member (indeed, the only remaining founding member, I believe) of a rather successful and unique death metal band, and regardless of the fact that DM is not mainstream music, it is still a legitimate genre with quite a large following around the world. Karl is from Greenville. Why shouldn't he be on the list? --GreatCthulhu 19:50, 27 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Karl Sanders should have been on there from the get go. Nile is one of the world's most widely acclaimed death metal acts, and Sanders as an individual is an incredibly talented musician on any stringed instrument. Most of Nile was from the Greenville area, a couple participating in the growing tech-metal band Lecherous Nocturne, and vice-versa. Nile is, of course, known for its Egyptian-based music and mythological lyrics. Just a couple thoughts71.85.11.204 (talk) 08:28, 21 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Metropolitan area by size

Metropolitan area by size is pretty much irrelevant. Deleted it from first para. If it belongs anywhere, it's somewhere down in the demographics.

Bob Jones Art Gallery

I modified the description of Bob Jones' art gallery. While it is an excellent small museum, it is an overstatement to call it the finest religious art collection in the Western Hemisphere. I also said that the artists painted in the style of the famous Renaissance artists listed. I don't think the gallery has proven that any of these artists actually painted any of the pieces in the collection. Most paintings were done by the studios of these artists, or in the styles of these artists. These are very different things.

Lcmcmillan: As I understand it, Bob Jones, Jr. took advantage of impoverished European countries after WWII and bought (plundered) works for far less than their true value. I've never heard the accusation that they were false, nor could I find any mention of it online. I changed the section back and referenced the official BJU website. If you can find a reputable source of controversy, by all means list it. Also, please sign your comments by typing 4 ~s. --Garrepi 00:38, 9 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

BJU has a very nice art museum, but it's definitely a stretch to say it's one of the best in the world. I think "fine" or "very fine" is perfectly adequte. I've visited this museum many times, and enjoyed it each time, but it is no Prado or Louvre (two museums I would consider to be some of the best in the world). Lcmcmillan

I have modified the BJU Museum and Art Gallery section to include the Museum and Gallery at Heritrage Green. --Tikatu (talk) 03:13, 19 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Neutrality of the Golf paragraph of the Sports Section

Uh, the paragraph on Golf seems more than a little bit biased from someone not very fond of Greenville's golf courses. I feel like I'm on a message board as I read it. Deleting the paragraph, hopefully I don't make anyone too mad. Bizznot 20:31, 10 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wound up editing the whole section, cutting out alot of the bias which was apparently put in by the same author as the golf section. While I feel for the author's dismay at Greenville's numerous golf courses taking up nature, the use of hyperbole ("more golf courses than players") and slang ("McMansion developments") is unacceptable in an encyclopedia. Who's the Barnstar? Bizznot 20:41, 10 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

User:66.169.22.233 is relentlessly adding unencyclopedic text. I tried revising some of his contributions to The Arts, but he just re-adds all his unsubstantiated opinions. The whole article is beginning to read like an essay (e.g., "The City of Greenville takes great pride in the diversity of it's people because they bring a richness to the community that just would not be there if it were as parochial as the Christian fundamentalists want it to be and it is something it can be praised for but which County Council can not be.") --Garrepi 21:26, 10 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ugh. What a pain. Is it possible to IP ban somebody from wiki? I guess not. Thanks for the warning, though, I'll keep an eye out for him. By the way, he's kept the Sports section clean for now. Yay.Bizznot 17:31, 21 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wow. It was worse than I thought. Plowed through some parts of it, streamlined, et cetera. I think this article might have just become my baby....Bizznot 17:45, 21 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

History - Civil Rights

A section in the "History" subheading dealt with the segregationist-era history of Greenville, and I altered it with some significant streamlining.

The section also completely lacks references; my changes were largely a cosmetic overhaul using the existing content.

Notable people from Greenville

I took out Chasen and The Wasians since they are not notable at all (i actually can't find anything on the web about the band Chasen and can only find local stuff and the bands own myspace page for The Wasians) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Harlock jds (talk • contribs) 00:17, 21 February 2007 (UTC).[reply]

also took out Tyler Keef since i can't find anything about him or his show via google Harlock jds 00:20, 21 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

would someone like to explain why Michael Youssef keeps being added to the page? when i google the name the only person that comes up is a radio minister... I see NO mention of a University of Pittsburgh French Horn Player. Besides that i fail to see the notability of a UP French Horn player —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Harlock jds (talk • contribs) 20:05, 16 March 2007 (UTC).[reply]

Is there a reason Jo Jorgensen isn't on notable people? She was the libertarian presidential candidate and has a very lengthy Wikipedia page. 1948coolstuff (talk) 02:26, 11 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

There is no mention of Greenville in Jorgensen's article. We would need a notable connection to Greenville from a reliable source before adding Jorgensen here. —ADavidB 07:59, 11 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

https://joj2020.com/about-jo-jorgensen/

her own website states that she has moved to greenville in the 1980s and still lives in greenville 1948coolstuff (talk) 23:16, 24 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I've added an entry for Jorgensen after finding a better source article from the Greenville News. —ADavidB 05:39, 25 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Education

The Wikipedia link for Berea High School takes you to a page containing information on Berea High in Ohio, not South Carolina. It appears Berea High in Greenville has no Wikipedia page. The school district links you have are correct.

Thank you, anonymous unsigned person! I've gone ahead and de-wikilinked it, since there is no article on Berea High School (South Carolina), and I don't really know enough about it to create one. Just a note; if somebody does create it, they should probably move Berea High School to Berea High School (Ohio) and turn Berea High School into a disambiguation redirect to Berea High School (disambiguation). Cheers, Trvsdrlng (talk) 18:25, 8 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Whovever keeps placing Webster University under "For-profit institutions", please stop doing so. Webster University is a non-profit institution. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mikedeko (talk • contribs) 22:35, 27 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Saw your comment and have been watching the article. Actually, the whole Education section could use some work. Just a long list now. Think it could use some prose as well. Marking it so. Thank you. -- JoannaSerah (talk) 02:24, 10 April 2012 (UTC) Updated JoannaSerah (talk) 17:16, 23 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Since I was involved in an edit war on this article, I was warned and have decided to hold off editing in this article for a long while. I revised my previous comment since it was somewhat provocative and biting of an IP user. Please make sure that any changes made, especially to the Education section are well cited. Thank you. -- JoannaSerah (talk) 17:16, 23 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Town twinning

The wikipedia page on Kortrijk in Belgium lists Greenville as a twin city. Is this correct? I think this is based on exchange programs between Furman University and a university in Kortrijk (KULCK)--Lamadude (talk) 05:49, 22 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

According to the official city website, Kortrijk is indeed a sister city. http://www.greatergreenville.com/city_government/sister_city.htm --Tikatu (talk) 03:45, 19 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Geographical Statistics

Average Elevation Above Sea Level needs to be added to the statistics. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.177.82.226 (talk) 00:41, 15 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Dillon, South Carolina

I am trying to do an article on my hometown. Could you give any advice on where would be a good place to find sources. Tlang cu (talk) 23:54, 4 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Tlang cu, as far as I can tell, there is already a Wikipedia article for Dillon, South Carolina. I'm not sure what you're trying to do exactly. But a good place to start is your local public library. NJ (talk) 22:58, 9 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Remove Interstate 3

No new news has come about relating to I-3 in years, i think its time to remove that section from the page — Preceding unsigned comment added by OurKing15 (talk • contribs) 18:19, 24 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Willie Earle

I added a brief mention of The Lynching of Willie Earle to the history section. Felsic2 (talk) 21:13, 28 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

More information on modern history

It would be nice if someone could contribute some more detail about the modern history of the city, specifically following the revitalization under the leadership of former mayor Max Heller. I feel like that started a new era in the history of the city and may deserve a sub-heading of its own. NJ (talk) 00:53, 9 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Good idea. Felsic2 (talk) 16:03, 9 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect Government of Greenville, South Carolina‎ to Greenville, South Carolina

Government of Greenville, South Carolina‎ is just a copy of material pasted from http://www.greenvillesc.gov/. The elements of this city government could conceivably be notable enough for a standalone article, but this current version isn't it. I propose to redirect the title back to the main article without merging any info, since none of it is sourced beyond the aforementioned city website. Felsic2 (talk) 17:15, 31 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Done Klbrain (talk) 08:24, 25 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Advert tag

This article is clearly being stage-managed by government and business types as a marketing tool. IDGAF about Condé Nast. This article requires an encyclopedic rewrite by a dispassionate editor. 70.29.99.106 (talk) 00:31, 3 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]