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Renaming to New Official Name

This article needs renaming to the new official color and name: "Green Line" as per Secretary Roxas http://business.inquirer.net/43411/dotc-lists-priority-projects-for-ppp --- Laibcoms (talk | Contribs) 03:42, 23 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Adding the latest incidents/accidents on the "Incidents and Accidents" topic.

The information there seems to outdated, so, if there is any user who has information in the latest incidents/accidents in the Manila LRT Line 1, contact me at my talk page.

How the unrefurbished 1st generation trains look like

The unrefurbished 1st generation trains' body is colored brown and yellow, I guess. SuperArticleGuy (talk) 05:36, 30 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I think they were more of brown and orange than both brown and yellow. Some old Line 1 pictures here:
http://lrta.gov.ph/index.php/2014-05-21-01-05-51/2014-05-22-02-12-18/2014-05-22-02-16-08
ERAMnc (talk) 12:38, 17 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

LRT Line 6 (Cavite Extension)

This article mentions the extension of Line 1 from Baclaran to Niog (Bacoor) and calls it LRT-6. But from recent news articles such as this from Philstar, this LRT-6 is actually the proposed line that only begins in Niog (Bacoor) and ends in Dasmariñas. Can someone look into this and see which stations form the LRT-1 South Extension and which belong to LRT-6? Also appreciate hearing your thoughts on creating a separate Manila Light Rail Transit System Line 6.--RioHondo (talk) 02:06, 20 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

On Dec 23, 2015, they released bid documents for the official LRT 6. I guess the extension is now part of line 1. They only plan 6 stations for line 6. See the ref.[1]natadecoco (talk) 11:12, 1 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Expand the Stations table to include rail/bus transfers

Would it be OK to include bus transfers in the table of stations? Right now only rail transfers are listed. I started doing this in the articles Transportation in Metro Manila and Public transport in Metro Manila. City buses are still a major means of transport in the metropolis. I don't have data about how many people actually transfer from rail to bus or vice versa, but putting it out for the public to know wouldn't be bad, right? Couldn't we add this information in all light rail Line articles to be consistent? Thanks. -- Miles2north (talk) 18:42, 5 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I am all for this, not only in Light Rail Lines (Lines 1 and 3), but also on Heavy Rail lines (Lines 2, 7, PNR). This is on the premise that it can be done in a simple and proper manner easily understandable by the readers. Korean Rail Fan 06:19, 7 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
How about something like this? I used the Common Station as an example, but each LRT/MRT station will have a different list of course. Looking at the list of buses plying EDSA, you can pretty much see why EDSA is such a congested road, almost all city buses go through there. --Miles2north (talk) 16:56, 12 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Transfers Nearby

Source: LTFRB; Google Maps. Note: Rail lines and facilities in italics are proposed and/or under construction.

Rail City Bus Jeepney Provincial Bus Notes
  • Alabang - Malanday via EDSA
  • Alabang - Navotas Terminal via EDSA
  • Alabang - Novaliches via EDSA
  • Alabang - Novaliches Terminal via EDSA, Mindanao Ave
  • Baclaran - Malanday via EDSA, Ayala Ave
  • Baclaran - Malanday via EDSA, McArthur Hwy
  • Baclaran - Navotas Terminal via Ayala Ave
  • Baclaran - Navotas Terminal via EDSA
  • Baclaran - Navotas Terminal via EDSA, Ayala Ave
  • Baclaran - Norzagaray via EDSA, Marilao Exit
  • Baclaran - Novaliches Terminal via EDSA, Mindanao Ave
  • Baclaran - Sta. Maria via EDSA
  • Baclaran - Sta. Maria via EDSA, McArthur Hwy
  • Coastal Mall - Navotas Terminal via EDSA
  • FTI - Navotas Terminal via EDSA
  • Letre - Pacita Complex via EDSA
  • Malanday - Muntinlupa via EDSA, Monumento
  • Malanday - NAIA via EDSA, Buendia
  • Marilao - Muntinlupa via EDSA
  • Navotas Terminal - Pacita Complex via EDSA
  • Novaliches - Pacita Complex via EDSA, Malinta Exit
MMDA North EDSA Provincial Bus terminal

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Content of "Light rail transit rides high; Elevated route is designed to clear snarled traffic below" article

As per WP:INDICATEAVAIL, I'm quoting the article contents of the "Light rail transit rides high; Elevated route is designed to clear snarled traffic below" article by Engineering News-Record published in 1983 which I used as a citation in the construction section of the article.

Light rail transit rides high; Elevated route is designed to clear snarled traffic below

Engineering News-Record

January 20, 1983

Copyright 1983 McGraw-Hill, Inc.

Section: FEATURES; Pg. 54

Length: 1041 words


Construction of a $235-million elevated light rail transit system in the urban heart of the Philippines is advancing through crowded streets, a maze of underground utilities and potential money woes to relieve Manila's clogged traffic arteries. Half of the country's 1.2 million registered vehicles are crammed into the city's metropolitan area on only 2.8% of the nation's roads.

Eleven-mile-long Metrorail is by far the largest transit project ever undertaken in the country. When completed by a Philippine contractor and a Belgian consortium, it will link Caloocan City in the north and Baclaran in the south along one of Manila's most heavily traveled commuter routes. Construction by about 1,300 workers is 30% complete and initial service is scheduled to begin in mid-1984.

The project's civil works are being built under a $125-million contract awarded by the Light Rail Transit Authority, (LRTA), an agency within the Philippine Ministry of Transportation and Communications. The award went to a Manila-based firm, Construction and Development Corporation of the Philippines (CDCP). The Belgian consortium responsible for designing and installing the electrical system as well as providing cars, rails, signaling, telecommunications and other equipment is led by Ateliers de Constructions Electriques de Charleroi (ACEC), based in Charleroi. Electrowatt Engineering Services Ltd., Zurich, is the project consultant.

Avoiding problems. Under discussion for years, Metrorail construction began in late 1981 following rejection of a subway or ground-level rail project. The elevated design avoids problems of building a subway in the city's high water table. It also saves right-of-way space that would be lost with a street-level system.

Metrorail construction includes cast-in-place single-column piers carrying precast T-girders and a concrete deck slab. The columns, 66 to 88 ft apart, rise from a cap atop bored or driven concrete piles. Four of the 7-ft-wide girders are side by side in each span to accommodate two tracks 20 ft above street level.

Contracts for two Metrorail bridges -- 281 and 452 ft long -- remain to be awarded. Expectations are that both contracts will go to Japanese contractors. Subcontracts destined primarily for local firms will also be awarded soon for station construction.

Estimates are that Metrorail will reduce travel time to one-fourth that taken by existing buses or public "jeepneys." The swarms of crowded jeepneys (small World War II-style jeep-like buses) stop anywhere, jamming Manila's streets and making travel nearly impossible at rush hour.

Initially, the light rail transit system will carry two-car trains -- each train able to move a total of 750 seated and standing passengers. Later, three-car trains will transport nearly 500,000 riders daily between 15 stations, a main terminal at each end of the line and a major central station on the bank of the Pasig River.

A study that formed the basis for LRTA planning in the late 1970s envisioned a network of light rail emanating from the present project's central station to crisscross Manila. But officials are hesitant about future construction because they are uncertain whether the line now being built will operate on a paying basis. Also, since the completion of the study in 1976 costs have soared and it is questionable whether the country's credit rating will enable it to borrow enough to finance another line.

Money also presents a potential roadblock to current project completion. Major financing has come from a 30-year, no-interest soft loan from the Belgian government, which will pick up some of the project's hard currency costs for foreign equipment and expertise. However, the project's civil works have to be paid for out of local reserves. Strapped by debt, the Philippine government has been having difficulty putting a package together to pay CDCP. LRTA recently tried to raise $50 million from international banks but got only $34 million.

Revising pile plans. Originally, Metrorail plans called for driven piles to be used in 80% of thejob and spread footings in the remainder. But as work got under way, it became apparent that much of the piledriving would have to be avoided and bored piles used to alleviate noise and to prevent possible damage to nearby buildings. Also, the stockpiled precast piles cluttered the streets.

Bored piles are now scheduled for over 7 miles of the route, driven piles for about 3 miles and spread footings for the rest. Each of the bored piles is 13% more expensive than the driven piles, according to Jean F. Schaillee, project manager representing the Belgian consortium. "But you have to be careful in making the comparison," he says, noting that the columns require nine driven piles to handle the same load supported by four bored piles.

The Manila office of Italian-owned Trevi (Hong Kong) Ltd. was awarded a $22.5-million contract to install the 2 to 3.3-ft-dia bored piles. Holes augered for them average about 82 ft deep, although some holes go to a depth of 138 ft. Because there are no public objections about noise in connection with the bored pile work, the subcontractor installs them in two 10-hour shifts.

Metrorail construction has not been free of public complaint, however. "We have become the most visible whipping boy because of this traffic mess," says Joseph Munder, an American who is project manager for CDCP. A network of telephone, sewer, gas and water lines lies beneath the site. Often, locations of some of the old lines cannot be determined prior to field work because records are lacking to indicate where they were installed. With construction tying up the main thoroughfare and utility crews digging out and rerouting lines, traffic in much of the city is even more snarled than it usually is. Also, the utility relocation has added at least two months to the job's completion.

Contracts to shift utilities from the transit system's route were given to local firms, some of which encountered financial difficulties because the work proved so complicated. In addition, 10 large buildings must be demolished along the route, among them an ice plant that some wanted to save because it is one of Manila's oldest structures.

Ganmatthew (talkcontribs) 02:49, 20 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No 5th generation LRV

Could someone please revert the mentions about a fifth generation LRV? There is no news of LRMC procuring additional trainsets, much less them having a manufacturer. Hannlol (talk) 15:47, 20 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]