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[edit]does any one knows wat is the song about coz it have been confusing me for years whenever i thought that i understand it again it slips out of my mind as if its unbeatable but that is wat is really good about that song that it could be interpretated by many way so am just wondering if it have a very simple meaning that i am missing
Will Young stealing someone else's thunder
[edit]Why is there a track listing for the songs that appear on Will Young's single release? Who cares? It is mentioned that "Light My Fire", the subject of the article, is on Will Young's single. I don't think it's important which other songs appear with it. It's outta here!
- It was there because the secion on Will Young's version was merged from another article. I've put the b-sides in the infobox. — AnemoneProjectors (talk) 20:36, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
- It really doesn't belong on this page.--Jersey Devil 09:12, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
- It's gone already. — AnemoneProjectors (talk) 15:49, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
- No, I mean that the entire information on "Will Young's cover" doesn't seem to belong on this article. It should have its own seperate article.--Jersey Devil 13:20, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
- It used to have its own article, but was merged with this one because articles are about songs, not singles. See (for example) I Will Always Love You. — AnemoneProjectors (talk) 16:39, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
High Section
[edit]Is this really necessary? I mean, do we really have to explain what it means to get high?
- I removed that line. I contend that "light my fire" isn't asking a girl to light his joint so much as excite his libido. Bantosh 17:32, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
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Michael Jackson owned the rights to "Light my Fire" http://www.josefeliciano.com/?x=entry:entry090627-115528 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kremitch (talk • contribs) 02:28, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
Covers
[edit]The list of cover versions at the end is extremely excessive P2.71828182 (talk) 07:09, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
- Agreed. I support removing any covers that don't have third-party sourcing illustrating their significance. Doniago (talk) 14:55, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
- The section probably needs a cleanup, but not using such arbitrary measures as whether the editor adding a cover just happened to include a reference to discogs.com. Graham87 03:18, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
- I would argue that it definitely needs a clean-up, and that in its current state any sourcing for a cover is better than none at all. That being said, if you don't feel discogs.com is sufficient, feel free to delete whichever items reference it. Reinserting all of the items indiscriminately hardly seems to be a step towards improving the situation, however. May I ask what you recommend? Doniago (talk) 13:57, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
- Perhaps limit it to albums with a Wikipedia article? The section is also a bit chatty, in places. Graham87 15:06, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
- I'd be amenable to that, though depending on how bloated the section is after that point I might feel that we should cut the list further. It's definitely a start though! Doniago (talk) 15:18, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
- Done, plus a few more (e.g. those that aren't full covers and bonus tracks). I've reduced the list down from 26 items to 10. Graham87 06:32, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
- Not sure about what is meant about trimming the list of covers. Extensive details of the artist who performed the cover and a lack of viable sources? I think it should be added that Al Green covers the song on "Al Green Gets Next To You," Stevie Wonder covers it on "My Cherie Amour, and The Four Tops cover it on "Soul Spin" I'm pretty sure I've heard some other covers by popular artists not listed on this page" Popeclem 02:32, 21 January 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Popeclem (talk • contribs)
- Done, plus a few more (e.g. those that aren't full covers and bonus tracks). I've reduced the list down from 26 items to 10. Graham87 06:32, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
- Why not limit the list to cover versions that actually charted? Chart placement seems a more accurate indicator of historical importance than a Wiki cross-reference. Since this discussion, the Covers section has been culled to a mere 3, and Amii Stewart's famed 1979 disco version is conspicuously absent. --70.194.69.31 (talk) 06:13, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
- Does it pass WP:SONGCOVER?--Egghead06 (talk) 06:30, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
- The book, Sixties Rock: Garage, Psychedelic, and Other Satisfactions, goes on for a whole chapter about the song, listing some of the artists who covered it. The ones that are not yet mentioned in our song article include Julie London, Jack Jones and Johnny Mathis who all followed the easy listening/lounge/jazz/pop style of Feliciano, and rocker Iggy Pop who sang it with Manzarek when they were both in a group called Nite City. (The book, cited once in our article, is very valuable in other ways and should be extensively summarized here.) Another possible artist is Woody Herman who arranged "Light My Fire" for his big band in Las Vegas, backing Julie London's live show.[1] Stevie Wonder covered the song, but I think it was throwaway album filler for My Cherie Amour, back before he took artistic control over his albums. All Music Guide to Soul agrees the rendition was "filler",[2] but later the same book says the track is of "special note to devotees of the unusual" because it is "string-filled and jaunty". Author Kim Field says that Wonder's version has "some great harmonica playing".[3] All Music Guide to Soul winds up by complaining: "why so many artists chose to cover this mostly tuneless and pretentious tune is a bit of a mystery" (page 826.) Amii Stewart released "Light My Fire" as a 45 rpm single disco version but it fared poorly, harming the sales of her previous single "Knock on Wood".[4] Some more: the Young Holt Trio,[5] Charles Wright & the Watts 103rd St. Rhythm Band,[6] Carol Douglas,[7] the Friends of Distinction,[8] Isaac Hayes in concert,[9] and the Four Tops.[10]
- Does it pass WP:SONGCOVER?--Egghead06 (talk) 06:30, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
- I'd be amenable to that, though depending on how bloated the section is after that point I might feel that we should cut the list further. It's definitely a start though! Doniago (talk) 15:18, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
- Perhaps limit it to albums with a Wikipedia article? The section is also a bit chatty, in places. Graham87 15:06, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
- I would argue that it definitely needs a clean-up, and that in its current state any sourcing for a cover is better than none at all. That being said, if you don't feel discogs.com is sufficient, feel free to delete whichever items reference it. Reinserting all of the items indiscriminately hardly seems to be a step towards improving the situation, however. May I ask what you recommend? Doniago (talk) 13:57, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
- The section probably needs a cleanup, but not using such arbitrary measures as whether the editor adding a cover just happened to include a reference to discogs.com. Graham87 03:18, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
What about the Guess Who? It is on their album called "This Time Long Ago". I just heard it for the first time on YouTube. Eegorr (talk) 06:56, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
- As Egghead mentioned above, does it pass WP:SONGCOVER? DonIago (talk) 13:55, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
- I had to struggle to search through the history of this article, but I still haven't found the cover by The Free Design.---------User:DanTD (talk) 21:46, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
Carol Kaye Claims
[edit]No mention is made in this article of Carol Kaye's claim to have played bass on The Doors recording of "Light My Fire". It seems to me that this is worthy of mention should this article get a rewrite.
http://www.carolkaye.com/www/library/basshits.htm — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sexmoron (talk • contribs) 03:53, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
- there's an excellent reason for that - she didn't.Andrew G. Doe (talk) 05:34, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
Composition
[edit]This article needs a Composition section discussing key, modulation, rhythm, harmony, etc. —Anomalocaris (talk) 19:17, 3 October 2011 (UTC)
- Be sure to mention the lineage from Brecht.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Brett Alexander Hunter (talk • contribs)
Yes, it's the major to relative minor sequence where the major is actually a minor. This is heard on another track on their album. Presumably it's played in Am, with the progression being Am - F#m and so forth. This is quite rare in western music but was used by Brecht, elicits a dark tone. Don't forget the circle of 5ths...— Preceding unsigned comment added by Brett Alexander Hunter (talk • contribs)
Organ
[edit]The article states "Ray Manzarek's keyboard playing descends ... [through various chords]." The sentence should be edited, however, to refer specifically to Manzarek's organ intro and outro to the tune, rather than to "keyboard playing" generally. 98.244.137.86 (talk) 17:34, 14 February 2023 (UTC)kolef98.244.137.86 (talk) 17:34, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
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"Stronger than dirt!"
[edit]At the end of thee final instrumental, the bang sings the Ajax cleaner slogan, "Stronger than dirt", to end the song. Could this be mentioned in the article?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 8.14.187.119 (talk) 01:50, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
- you're thinking of another song, "Touch Me". Andrew G. Doe (talk) 05:36, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
Speed Discrepency section
[edit]The section on speed discrepency states that some versions are at slightly highre pitch than other versions, yet is totally ambiguous about which version is the correct one. Is the correct speed the higher pitched)faster) version or the lower pitrched (slower) version? Would the author please resolve this significant ambiguity please, and in the future create clearer prose. thank you. 99.2.69.172 (talk) 02:00, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
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Yes, I'd like to see further substantiation that the correct versions are the sped-up ones. The recently released versions of "Light My Fire" with the quicker speed just don't sound right! The 45 rpm version may have been sped up (besides severely edited). However, the full album version was always just over seven minutes in length. Packzap (talk) 18:14, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
- Have both versions been sped up, or just the album version? Martinevans123 (talk) 18:21, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
Light My Fire
[edit]Hi, the certificate platinum in US of single Light My Fire sales of 2,000,000 not 1,000,000.
Standard singles are certified:
- Gold when it ships 500,000 copies
- Platinum when it ships 1,000,000 copies
- Multi-Platinum when it ships at least 2,000,000 copies
Note: The number of sales required to qualify for Gold and Platinum discs was higher prior to January 1, 1989. The thresholds were previously 1,000,000 units (Gold) and 2,000,000 units (Platinum). Light My Fire, Previous Certification:
Gold | September 11, 1967
Platinum | September 28, 2018
url=http://articles.latimes.com/1989-05-14/business/fi-188_1_singles-riaa-platinum%7Ctitle=
Light My Fire single
[edit]- US: Gold (physical) 1,000,000 unit
- US: Platinum (digital) 1,000,000 unit
- Totally 2,000,000 unit
https://download2280.mediafire.com/cabvy36of4wg/7p1dpyuahgou0sj/The+Doors%5C%27+Certified+Sales.doc 79.46.35.249 (talk)
Light My Fire single
[edit]- Light My Fire-Single 1,000,000
- Light My Fire (re-issue)-Single 1,000,000 (Digital)
- Totally 2,000,000 unit
https://download2280.mediafire.com/cabvy36of4wg/7p1dpyuahgou0sj/The+Doors%5C%27+Certified+Sales.doc 79.46.35.249 (talk) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.42.147.159 (talk) 13:47, 5 October 2021 (UTC)
Could someone FIX the mistake https://www.nme.com/photos/the-500-greatest-songs-of-all-time-200-101-1421780 NME did not rank the song as the 2nd greatest song.... It's ranked the 199th greatest song by NME. Whoever added the link obviously couldn't see the mistake in the list. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 159.146.45.84 (talk) 18:22, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
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Change "NME cited it as the second greatest song of all time." to "In 2014, NME ranked the song at 199 in its 500 Greatest Songs of All Time list." 47.218.188.38 (talk) 20:55, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
Done Thanks. Someone must have been looking through the wrong end of the telescope. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:14, 27 January 2022 (UTC)