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Images

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... are here (http://www.cpic.ru/ByTheWay/AllNotes/Nov3-.htm). Pictures are PD because they are old. It is less trivial with sculptures. Modern Russian law explicitly states, though, that object permanently located in public places are not protected. The question remains whether the author of the photo of the sculpture has any copyright claim. In US he does if he pictures a 3-d image (sculpture, palace) and he doesn't if he captures a 2-D image (that is taking photo of the painting doesn't generate a copyright for the photo itself). Could be that photos of these sculptures are still PD because of the above quirk or RU-law. Hope this helps, --Irpen 04:39, 27 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Anti-Semitism

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The Encyclopedia Judaica states that he left Russia due to antisemitism, specifically in the Russian nationalist Christian press who basically said that he had no right to make sculptures of the Czar et al. because he was not Christian himself. (unsigned by anon)

A few issues

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  • The lede says he died 14 July 1902, but later we’re told he died on 9 July (27 June according to the old calendar) in Frankfurt (Germany)
    • for starters, in 1902 there was a 13-day gap between the Julian and Gregorian calendars, so 27 June (os) would equate to 10 July (ns), or conversely, 9 July (ns) equates to 26 June (os). But regardless of that, none of those dates come close to the "14 July" in the lede. Quite a mess, really. To add salt to the wound, if he died in Germany, the OS calendar was irrelevant.
  • then were told he was buried on 18 July (6 July according to the old calendar)
    • again, the wrong conversion factor has been used - it’s 13 days in 1902, not 12 days - so these 2 dates do not match up.
  • his surname is mainly romanised as Antokolski, but occasionally as Antokolsky (the photo caption, for example), Also, we’re told he was born an Antokolsky (Mordukh Matysovich) but became an Antokolski (Mark Matveevich). This is a mish mash and needs to be sorted out. Personally, I’d much rather have him as Antokolsky throughout, with a redirect from Antokolski, but maybe he’s better known by the latter spelling. Either way, consistency is everything. -- Jack of Oz ... speak! ... 04:41, 29 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • The text states that he "stayed in the French capital until the end of his life" but he died in Frankfurt (Germany). First question: This is contradictory: Paris or Frankfurt? What was he doing in Frankfurt? Second question: Which Frankfurt (there are two)? The article in the German wiki states that it was Frankfurt am Main.

Unrelated question: Why is it not possible to edit the article without login? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.30.192.186 (talk) 14:54, 28 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]