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Data said a contraction?

Watch this episode and at the end Picard asks how data is and I swear he says "I'm fine" not "I am fine". Cburnett 02:40, Apr 8, 2005 (UTC)

Possibly. Maybe it was to keep the audience guessing. Cyberia23 07:01, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)

In the show, they do not mention that Data can not use contractions, only that he does not. His use of a contraction may be in effort to be more human. 128.113.239.207 (talk) 06:56, 15 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Prior to this episode there was no restrictions on Data saying contractions, and it was only introduced here as a plot point. Miyagawa (talk) 13:41, 11 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

CONFIRMED "Data" says "I'm fine." when asked by Picard, which lends some odd credibility to the storyline in which Lore is working on the Enterprise until they change places at Noonien Soong's deatb...Cite error: There are <ref> tags on this page without content in them (see the help page).

Incorrect Episode Number?

Netflix has the this episode listed add the twelfth episode... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.242.210.24 (talk) 02:52, 18 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

There's some differencing in numbering for the episodes as some places list Encounter at Farpoint as episode 1, whilst others as episode 1 and 2. The official sources list it as 1 and 2, which is what we're going by here as its sourced. Miyagawa (talk) 13:40, 11 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Reviewer: Ed! (talk · contribs) 00:14, 14 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

" It would be Roddenberry's final script credit on a Star Trek series" -- Might want to clarify what happened after this.

Let me dig out a reliable source - I found this here which states what needs to be said, but I can get a better source than that. I'll flick through the books later and get the reference added. Miyagawa (talk) 18:53, 14 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

"who thought that the actions were not in line with his expectations of his character." -- Which character? Data or Lore? And how did each of them not work?

Fixed to Data. Miyagawa (talk) 18:53, 14 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

"Wil Wheaton later recalled that the stand-in actor used in this episode really irritated Spiner and was never used again." -- What was his name?

Wheaton couldn't remember, but he did say that it wasn't Guy Vardaman, who took over that role after this episode. Miyagawa (talk) 18:53, 14 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

"reprising the role of Lore in the fourth season episode fourth season episode "Brothers" and the two parter "Descent", split between the sixth and seventh seasons." -- I don't know at all what this is saying.

Simplified to "Brent Spiner reprised the role of Lore in the episodes "Brothers" and "Descent". I guess something distracted me when I was typing in order for me to type "fourth season fourth season" into a sentence. :) Miyagawa (talk) 18:53, 14 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

There is one duplicate link, but the disambiguation links and external links all appear to be fine.

Fixed. Miyagawa (talk) 18:53, 14 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I see no issues with article stability or neutrality. The image appears to be properly licensed.

Placing the article on hold pending a few minor fixes. —Ed!^(talk) 01:48, 14 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Good work, passing the GA. —Ed!^(talk) 01:46, 15 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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"Shut up"

User User:Gary_Quatermass added a section with unsourced claims that the phrase "Shut up Weasley" is one of the most well-known memes in the Star Trek fanbase. I removed the section because I believe it wasn't ready to be included yet.

A web search for the phrase Shut up Weasley finds no exact matches. On the other hand, a web search for Shut up Wesley shows many hits including a discussion asking how many times this phrase was uttered and a reply calling the phrase "iconic". There is also some kind of report on actor Wil Wheaton being sick of hearing the phrase, but it didn't look like it came from a WP:Reliable source. It does appear to be a phenomenon of some sort, but it's not clear whether it merits mention in the article.

I've spent about as much time as I care to, but perhaps User:Gary_Quatermass or another user could look for some reliable sources and work it into the article somewhere.

Heavy Joke (talk) 01:58, 1 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Wesley not Weasley. There isn't a Harry Potter version of the meme, not yet anyway ("Use the force Harry.") It was clearly a typo.

In 2020, GameSpot listed some of the most bizarre moments of the series, including "Shut Up Wesley". They called it "perhaps the most infamous moment on this list."^[1] The also reference comments from Wheaton on the matter. User:Gary_Quatermass didn't include any sources and created a whole unnecessary subsection[1] but I believe the Gamespot list and the "Shut Up Wesley" meme is worth noting briefly in the Reception section. -- 109.77.206.165 (talk) 17:24, 23 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ "The 11 Most Bizarre Moments Throughout Star Trek: The Next Generation". GameSpot. Retrieved 2021-01-01.

Image

This article would be greatly improved by an image from the episode. A free image of actor Brent Spiner is good to have but it nowhere near as insightful as an image of him in character as Data. An image of Data and his brother Lore side-by-side would greatly enhance understanding of the article. As the first use of CGI in TNG an image of the crystalline entity would also be an important image to consider including too, but an image of the primary topic of the episode, the brothers Data and Lore, would have to take priority. As these would need to be screenshots from the episode it would take someone who fully understood all the intricacies and necessary incantations of the fair use policy to get them included in the article (so I'm not volunteering) but I hope someone will look into it eventually. -- 109.78.197.83 (talk) 14:15, 23 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

[1] "The 11 Most Bizarre Moments Throughout Star Trek: The Next Generation". GameSpot. Retrieved 2021-01-01.

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