Talk:Toni Ann Gisondi

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I have removed, once again, the "quote" you added to the reference you placed within the Toni Ann Gisondi article. I am anxious to keep this article on Wikipedia, but comments on its entry on the Articles For Deletion page suggest this quote should be removed if the article is allowed to stay. If you put it back again, it could lead to the article's eventual deletion. I have, however, kept your reference, just not the quote. --Seahamlass (talk) 21:31, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

I cant accept your changes. You have the publisher of the website incorrect, and you have the title of the article incorrect. I am not sure why you are changing it, but I cannot allow incorrect information to remain. ^[1]

This is the correct reference. ^[2]

I have trimmed the quote down to a single sentence. I hope this will satisfy your concerns. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 01:44, 23 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I also think its intellectually deceptive to list a website as a source without letting people know there is just a single sentence about them in the website. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 01:49, 23 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Lemme explain:

reference #2 is being used to back up the lede sentence that reads "Toni Ann Gisondi is a former child actress, best known for playing Molly - the youngest orphan - in the 1982 film version of the musical Annie."
a) this lede sentence is (quite properly) a summary of what is explained in detail later, at which point it is accompanied by the appropriate refs. There is no reason for any refs in this lede.
b) reference #2 only demonstrates that Gisondi was in the film, but the ref is being misused to substantiate everything else in the lede sentence as well.
the "quotation" in reference #2 is telling the reader that Toni Ann was expected to attend some orphan pseudo-reunion in Baltimore.
a)This is not only completely irrelevant to the context for which that reference is being cited, it also does nothing for a biography of Toni Ann Gisondi, and—worst of all—the source is projecting an appearance that may not have actually occurred.
b) The only way that reference can be made relevant is if the article were to say "At an orphan reunion on March 20, 2008, over twenty former Annies and orphans—including Toni Ann Gisondi— were expected to attend." Not so good, eh?

Other thingies:

Whats the point of the quotation in ref #3?
Also, I suggest you folks find something in those "External references" to make them relevant to this article. If they have something to say about Gisondi, that content should be integrated and the sources used as a reference. For example, use imdb to substantiate that she played Molly in the film. See also WP:EL#What_should_be_linked. -- Fullstop (talk) 13:33, 23 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Life After Tomorrow website. "Toni as Molly". Retrieved 2008-03-21.
^ "'Life After Tomorrow' Signing to Feature Special Appearances". Retrieved 2008-03-21. Along with Stevens and special guest Charles Strouse, over twenty former Annies and orphans are expected to attend, including Martha Byrne, a former July and Annie understudy who won two Daytime Emmys for As the World Turns, original Broadway cast member Robyn Finn, and Rosanne Sorrentino and Toni Ann Gisondi from the Annie film.

Young Actor's Award is a nomination only, not a win

The wording is unclear and seems to have mislead people voting in the AfD discussion. I'm clarifying the wording. Delicious carbuncle (talk) 02:59, 24 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Reference

Just removing the following citation. So far as I can see, it doesn't add anything that the IMDb (also cited immediately adjacently) doesn't already. It's forum and so much less reliable. BigBlueFish (talk) 16:36, 26 March 2008 (UTC) Atabb website (2007). "Acting role". Retrieved 2008-02-20. Toni Ann Gisondi (Student)[reply]

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[1] Life After Tomorrow website. "Toni as Molly". Retrieved 2008-03-21.

[2] "'Life After Tomorrow' Signing to Feature Special Appearances". Retrieved 2008-03-21. Along with Stevens and special guest Charles Strouse, over twenty former Annies and orphans are expected to attend, including Martha Byrne, a former July and Annie understudy who won two Daytime Emmys for As the World Turns, original Broadway cast member Robyn Finn, and Rosanne Sorrentino and Toni Ann Gisondi from the Annie film.

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