Talk:Lilah Sturges

Gender and name

The subject of this article has announced that she identifies as female and has changed her given name to Lilah. It is WP policy to respect these changes. The key guidelines are that female pronouns be used throughout the article, and that for the most part her old given name be avoided. Since it's WP style to refer to people mainly by their last name, that shouldn't be difficult. However, for identification purposes, since she was widely credited and is commonly known by her old name, that information needs to be included in the lede (much like we would do with someone who changes their name due to marriage or divorce after becoming notable). It's also standard procedure to rename the article to the subject's new name (with a redirect from the old name), again: like any other name change. There is no policy about changing references to her old name in other articles... if done, it should be in a way that doesn't confuse the reader about why (for example) the name on the book doesn't match the name given in the article. -Jason A. Quest (talk) 15:55, 29 December 2016 (UTC)

I saw that multiple users have removed Lilah Sturges' birth name from the article, either with no comment or else citing an incorrect reading of guidelines. While guidelines are clear on using only a transgender person's correct pronouns, MOS:GENDERID is conspicuously silent as to whether or not a transgender person's former name should be used in a Wikipedia article. Because Lilah Sturges achieved notability under her birth name, and the overwhelming majority of her creative output is credited under her birth name, and the overwhelming majority of sources establishing her notability use her birth name (as it was the only name by which she was known when those sources were authored), this Wikipedia article should acknowledge that birth name. The article makes no further reference to her birth name beyond establishing it, and has no need to. --DavidK93 (talk) 18:19, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

This is covered specifically by MOS:CHANGEDNAME - In the case of transgender and non-binary people, birth names should be included in the lead sentence only when the person was notable under that name. There is no need to use Sturges' birth name anywhere but the lead, but it should definitely appear in the lead due to the aforementioned prior notability. I'll accept a maximum of twice (specifically lead sentence and infobox), but no more. stwalkerster (talk) 22:54, 12 June 2019 (UTC)

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