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A fact from Evgeniia Subbotina appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 29 May 2024 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that although Evgeniia Subbotina failed to escape her own exile in Siberia, she successfully aided the escapes of Catherine Breshkovsky, Yelizaveta Kovalskaya and Sofya Bogomolets?

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The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 22:22, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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... that although Evgeniia Subbotina herself failed to escape her exile in Siberia, she successfully aided the escape of Catherine Breshkovsky, Yelizaveta Kovalskaya and Sofya Bogomolets?

Source: Shilov, A. A.; Karnaukhova, M. G., eds. (1932). "Субботина, Евгения Дмитриевна" [Subbotina, Evgeniia Dmitrievna]. Деятели революционного движения в России [ru] (in Russian). Vol. 4. Moscow: Society of Former Political Prisoners and Exiled Settlers. p. 1635–1636. OCLC 749336544. С помощью А. Лу. кашевича пыталась 28 янв. 1879 г. бежать; добралась до Иркутска, где была задержана 29 янв. т. г. Признанная ген.-губернаторок виновной в самовольн. отлучке, подвергнута 7-дневн. аресту при Иркутск. тюремн. Зам. к. азатем выслана в Верхоленск (Иркутск. губ.) с ением за ней особ. [...] В 1881 г. переведена в Иркутск, где жила с В. Александровой-Натансон, Принимала вместе с нею участие в денежной помощи и в организации побегов Е. Брешко-Брешковской из Баргузина и Е. Ковальской и С. Богомолец из Иркутск. [With the help of A. L. Kashevich she tried to escape on 28 January 1879; she reached Irkutsk, where she was detained on 29 January of that year. Found guilty of AWOL by the Governor-General, she was subjected to a 7-day arrest at the Irkutsk prison. She was deported to Verkholensk (Irkutsk province) and then deported with a special charge. [...] In 1881, she was transferred to Irkutsk, where she lived with V. Alexandrova-Natanson; she took part with her in providing monetary aid and in organising the escape of E. Breshko-Breshkovskaya from Barguzin and E. Kovalskaya and S. Bogomolets from Irkutsk.]

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Grnrchst (talk) 14:20, 29 April 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy compliance:

Adequate sourcing: - Her identification as a "Russian Narodnik revolutionary" in the lede does not appear later in the article and requires a citation.
Neutral:
Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Thanks for creating this. I've read some interesting first person accounts that mention the women Russian exiles. Please tag me once the missing citation is added. Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 01:33, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Mary Mark Ockerbloom: I'm confused as to why this claim needs a citation? She collaborated on Lavrov's Vpered, was involved in a Narodnik organisation, was tried in two mass trials of Narodnik revolutionaries and actively organised with other Narodniks for decades. Is it not exceedingly obvious that this was the movement she was involved in? --Grnrchst (talk) 08:12, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Grnrchst: Yes, but all of that relies on the reader having knowledge of what that movement was and who it involved. For a Wikipedia reader who follows the hook to a topic that they aren't knowledgeable about, none of that is obvious. So I would suggest adding a sentence or phrase later in the body that in which you explicitly use the term Narodnik, with a citation to something that clarifies or at least uses that term. Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 12:15, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

- @Mary Mark Ockerbloom: Ok, I've just removed it from the lead. --Grnrchst (talk) 12:58, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  @Grnrchst: As you wish, good to go. All the best, Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 13:07, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]