Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 May 29
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on May 29, 2024.
Traditional laws of armed conflict
- Traditional laws of armed conflict → Voluntary war (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
While this term is currently mentioned in the article, the concept writ large generally doesn't have some specific connection to the Jewish law concept of "voluntary war". Delete per WP:REDLINK. voorts (talk/contributions) 22:51, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- Actually, I was skeptical about making the redirect to this page, since the redirect is more of a generic term that can apply to almost any country's traditional laws of armed conflict. Feel free to delete the redirect, if you should deem it not meeting the redirect guidelines. We all make mistakes. Cheers. Davidbena (talk) 00:14, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
Wikipedia:HOUSE
- Wikipedia:HOUSE → Wikipedia:WikiProject Television/House task force (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
most ppl think of actual houses nowadays, not house MD. Kinopiko talk 22:46, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- Where do you suggest this redirect be re-targeted to? Ca talk to me! 01:42, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
- Comment. This redirect originally targeted Wikipedia:WikiProject Crowded House when it was created (well, created then fixed) in 2007. The redirect was retargeted to a former name of its current target in 2009. Since this redirect had multiple targets during its lifetime, I'm not a straight-up "keep" in this case and am actually not sure what the best path forward here is. Maybe disambiguate? Steel1943 (talk) 01:47, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
- Dabify Given that we have no good consensus on a primary target, I suggest creating a disambiguation page with the current entry, Wikipedia:WikiProject Crowded House and the following two essays: Wikipedia:Don't demolish the house while it's still being built, Wikipedia:Don't hope the house will build itself. --Lenticel (talk) 02:46, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
- If we're dabifying then Wikipedia:Teahouse is probably worth including too. Thryduulf (talk) 11:54, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
Bashira
- Bashira → List of newspapers in Iraq#A–G (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Move Bashira (film) to Bashira, as the article about the film at least has citations and seems more notable than the newspaper in Iraq which had zero sources for 16 years and which we weren't able to find any sources for now. If/when sources are found for the newspaper, the article could be recreated as Bashira (newspaper). Cielquiparle (talk) 21:53, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
Alley Boy
Redirects to an article that doesn't mention this subject. Delete the redirect and let the redlinks be red again. Yappy2bhere (talk) 19:36, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
"Alcohol expectations" and "Alcohol expectancies"
- Alcohol expectations → Alcoholic beverage#Alcohol expectations (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Alcohol expectancies → Alcoholic beverage#Alcohol expectations (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Neither of these are mentioned in the target article, leaving the redirects unclear in what they refer to. (However, Alcohol expectancies is a {{R with history}}.) Steel1943 (talk) 19:33, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
Bui Quoc Huy
- Bui Quoc Huy → Bùi Quang Huy (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Redirect is protected, discussion created on behalf of 2600:6C44:117F:95BE:9460:4DA2:ADC1:9976. Their request was the following: Bui Quoc Huy and Bùi Quang Huy are 2 different names in Vietnamese. They're not interchangeable names. Bui Quoc Huy page should not be a redirect page. It should be deleted and applied article creation protection afterwards due to persistent sock activities in the past. Those socks have been trying to write a PR article on Bui Quoc Huy for years in Vietnamese Wikipedia too. See Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Smagzine for more information. This page is a direct result of a sock master. It was later turned into a redirect page.
Tollens (talk) 19:30, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
Various "ingesting/eating soap" redirects towards "Washing out the mouth with soap"
- Eat soap → Washing out the mouth with soap (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Eating soap → Washing out the mouth with soap (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Drink soap → Washing out the mouth with soap (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Drinking soap → Washing out the mouth with soap (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Ingest soap → Washing out the mouth with soap (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Ingesting soap → Washing out the mouth with soap (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Swallow soap → Washing out the mouth with soap (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Swallowing soap → Washing out the mouth with soap (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
I do not believe any of these phrases has been used in regular context as synonymous phrases for the target. If anything, these phrases most likely refer to soap-eating, which apparently there is a word for: Sapophagia, which we apparently do not have an article for. And ... Wiktionary:sapophagia does not exist either. Steel1943 (talk) 18:50, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- Delete them all as per WP:REDLINK. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 20:48, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- Delete, inclined to agree that the phrases don't really match the article's intended meaning (more around taste and contemporarily, as an expression). The closest to relevance is perhaps "ingest" but it's not a likely phrase either. Bungle (talk • contribs) 21:43, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- Comment I have long wondered if perhaps an article by the name of "soap ingestion" or something similar would be appropriate. Unlike "washing out the mouth with soap," which refers specifically to a form of punishment, "soap ingestion" encompasses the use of soap as punishment, compulsive soap-eating (sapophagia), accidental soap ingestion, and more. Andrea Parton (talk) 05:07, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
- comment: no chance of the act or fetish of consuming soap becoming its own article? i think it would warrant at least someone remembering to write a definition for it in wiktionary, since the word exists cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 12:22, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Cogsan: If so, the article would be similar to Pagophagia. Steel1943 (talk) 12:41, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
- don't see how, honestly. pagophagia might gradually kill some people sometimes maybe, sapophagia could probably do it in a week
- that aside, they are different forms of consuming things, sapophagia might not be inherently voluntary, compulsive, or intentional, and they are different things being consumed
- maybe the section names would be similar? cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 12:50, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
- That's what I was getting at. I want saying that they would be identical, but had some similarities. Some things similar I'm finding, for example, are related to people participating in these acts if they are iron-deficient. Steel1943 (talk) 13:36, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Cogsan: If so, the article would be similar to Pagophagia. Steel1943 (talk) 12:41, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
Croangunk
- Croangunk → List of generation IV Pokémon#Croagunk (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
implausible misspelling? cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 17:27, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- Weak keep, the spoken word in English can easily sound like it may have an "n" in the middle and therefore is perhaps plausible someone could be searching a word from what they hear. Bungle (talk • contribs) 19:12, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- ...wah-huh? I... have never heard "Croagunk" pronounced like that, ever? Isn't it pronounced like "croak" (y'know, as in a frog) with the K lopped off, and then the word "gunk"? 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 20:50, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- i was thinking it might have been an accent thing or a "regiice" case, but i haven't seen that in action cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 21:00, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- It may well be accent related. When I say it, it could at times possibly sound like it has an "n" in the middle. Redirects are WP:CHEAP after all and the bar for keeping is lower, although I don't have too much conviction in this view, hence the "weak". Bungle (talk • contribs) 21:40, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- i was thinking it might have been an accent thing or a "regiice" case, but i haven't seen that in action cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 21:00, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- ...wah-huh? I... have never heard "Croagunk" pronounced like that, ever? Isn't it pronounced like "croak" (y'know, as in a frog) with the K lopped off, and then the word "gunk"? 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 20:50, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
Croalurk
- Croalurk → List of generation IV Pokémon#Croagunk (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
apparently initially a misreading of its english name due to a low quality picture, currently a name for other unrelated things (mostly fursonas, apparently) cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 17:26, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. The only thing I can think of with this name would be a fusion of Croagunk with Golurk in Pokemon Infinite Fusion... except Croagunk isn't IN Infinite Fusion. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 20:52, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
Bidoof's Big Stand
- Bidoof's Big Stand → List of generation IV Pokémon#Bidoof (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
that's a 2022 animated short, currently not mentioned in the target. if mentions of it could be made somewhere, would it be in the current target? cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 17:20, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- Comment It seems to be referenced at List of Pokémon special episodes. A retarget there could work. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 18:12, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- Retarget to List of Pokémon special episodes#Other special episodes as per Pokelego999. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 20:54, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
BIbarel
- BIbarel → List of generation IV Pokémon#Bibarel (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
that's an uppercase i, not a lowercase L. doesn't seem like a plausible or possible typo, considering how the search function works cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 17:11, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom --Lenticel (talk) 00:01, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
- Delete, unlikely error.
Also, it's aesthetically offensive. Rusalkii (talk) 20:08, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
Magnufo
- Magnufo → List of generation IV Pokémon#Magnezone (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
a... fan-made finnish name used in a fandom wiki and nowhere else? it seems to have been speculation before, but i found nothing that suggests the creator didn't come up with it on the spot cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 17:06, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- Delete, seems like it was created as a short-lived article under the misinterpretation as to what the translation from Japanese would be (and also perhaps as a duplicate of an existing one). I have looked at the original article from '07 and its references on archive.org, which have no mention of this name. Google only turns up fan speculation from around the time, nothing credible. Bungle (talk • contribs) 19:22, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per above --Lenticel (talk) 02:50, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
Stubby (Pokémon)
- Stubby (Pokémon) → List of generation IV Pokémon#Bidoof (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Stubby (Pokemon) → List of generation IV Pokémon#Bidoof (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
funny, but i found nothing suggesting that this was ever even speculated to be its name cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 17:02, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- it just occurred to me that "stubby" is an actual word
- which means i should look for any mention of a bidoof with that nickname, which is worse than looking for a pokémon with that name for its species cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 20:03, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- Checked Bulbapedia. According to them, while there are no in-game trades featuring a Bidoof named Stubby in any generation, in the Sinnoh games, you can enter a Super Contest and end up facing down a Pokemon with the nickname "Stubby."The issue is that Stubby is a Barboach, not a Bidoof. This is true in both Gen 4 and Gen 8. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 21:04, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
NYSE: F
Only redirect of its kind, with most others of the same format omitting the space between the colon and identifier. mwwv converse∫edits 17:02, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- Weak keep. Unambiguous and harmless. Weak only because it's barely used. Thryduulf (talk) 11:57, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
Starlhawk
- Starlhawk → List of generation IV Pokémon#Staraptor (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
the only results i've seen of this that aren't misspellings of "starhawk" are speculation or wikipedia-related tools cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 16:59, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. I'm not sure a Pokémon exists or ever existed by this exact name and I can't find any results for it. 〜 Askarion ✉ 13:27, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
Starlbird
- Starlbird → List of generation IV Pokémon#Staravia (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
the only results i've seen of this that aren't misspellings of "starbird" are speculation or wikipedia-related tools cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 16:58, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
Chimeglebell
- Chimeglebell → List of generation IV Pokémon#Chingling (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
doesn't seem like it was ever intended or speculated to be its name. wouldn't work in-game either, as it's 12 characters long when pokémon names had a 10 character limit until gen 5 (it was raised to 12 in gen 6). see talk:chingling for proof that this isn't even the first time this was questioned cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 16:54, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
Arzeus
- Arzeus → List of generation IV Pokémon#Arceus (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
may admittedly be jumping the gun here. this doesn't seem similar to any possible spelling or pronunciation of its name cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 16:47, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
Magburn
- Magburn → List of generation IV Pokémon#Magmortar (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
fan speculation for its english name, on the same vein as laxbe which i nominated a little under (or was it over?) a month ago. unlike laxbe, i found a few results, but they pretty solidly established this as a fan name that was dropped in favor of its admittedly inferior official name cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 16:42, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- Keep if a reference to this as a fan-name is added. If it has a few results it seems to be a decently plausible search target, however niche. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 18:13, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
Dusky pink
- Dusky pink → Shades of pink#Pale pink (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Not mentioned in the target article. Searching the rest of Wikipedia for this phrase, the phrase seems to be mentioned in multiple articles, but none of the respective articles seems to define this redirect adequately to be an appropriate target for this redirect. Steel1943 (talk) 16:05, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
Baby pinks
- Baby pinks → Baby Blues (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Not mentioned in target disambiguation page. Steel1943 (talk) 14:29, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- Retarget to Shades of pink#Baby pink as a {{R from plural}}. The target section has a link to Gendered associations of pink and blue which is the only other plausible target I've found. Thryduulf (talk) 12:02, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
- Retarget per Thryd. Rusalkii (talk) 20:10, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
Zoznam.sk
A redirect to Seznam.cz seems inappropriate given that these are two completely different websites. Zoznam.sk looks more like a tabloid than independent source, and I can't find any evidence that both sites are owned by the same agency/publisher. I would suggest to delete and leave as an empty page until someone did a research about the site with proper references. Clara A. Djalim (talk) 10:12, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
Karli Smith
- Karli Smith → Indianapolis FedEx shooting (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Samaria Blackwell → Indianapolis FedEx shooting (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- John Weisert → Indianapolis FedEx shooting (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Amarjit Sekhon → Indianapolis FedEx shooting (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Jasvinder Kaur → Indianapolis FedEx shooting (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Amarjeet Johal → Indianapolis FedEx shooting (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Victims of a shooting generally do not have articles unless they become notable in their own right. It isn't appropriate to associate a search term of their names with an event which took their life. The individuals would already appear in search results on the event article without the need of an explicit redirect. I am unsure if there is specific policy around this, as WP:VICTIM merely mentions outright articles specifically. Bungle (talk • contribs) 09:12, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- well other victims of shootings typically get redirected to the shooting article. Sandy Hook Elementary school shooting for example. Victims such as Allison Wyatt, Grace McDonnell etc have redirects. Elizzaflanagan221 (talk) 12:28, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- Your argument that WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS is poor and is not in itself a reason why the aforementioned should be kept as redirects. We have to ask for what benefit and purpose does an article or redirect serve in its existence? I don't see any value in these redirects and as the victims are all deceased, cannot decide themselves if they'd want their identities associated with such an atrocity. I don't see any policy specific to this circumstance, which is probably why there is no agreed precedent. Bungle (talk • contribs) 13:24, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- well like i said, most articles on mass tragedy events have redirects with the victims names. If you think its morally wrong or u dont agree with it, you should make this a bigger discussion and not just solely on the FedEx shooting. Elizzaflanagan221 (talk) 17:18, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
- Your argument that WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS is poor and is not in itself a reason why the aforementioned should be kept as redirects. We have to ask for what benefit and purpose does an article or redirect serve in its existence? I don't see any value in these redirects and as the victims are all deceased, cannot decide themselves if they'd want their identities associated with such an atrocity. I don't see any policy specific to this circumstance, which is probably why there is no agreed precedent. Bungle (talk • contribs) 13:24, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
Stupefying
- Stupefying → Date rape drug (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
This redirect is so stupefying (pun intended). Date rape drugs are hardly the only thing in the world that could be considered "stupefying". Maybe retarget to wikt:stupefying? Duckmather (talk) 04:42, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- REtarget to narcotic, where stupefacient points to -- 65.92.244.237 (talk) 05:45, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- Comment as original creator I'm pretty sure I created this redirect when working on a crime page or criminal bio. I have no objection to retargeting. Stuartyeates (talk) 10:46, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. Right off the bat, my very first thought when seeing the word "stupefying" was immediately the "Stupefy" spell from Harry Potter, followed immediately by "this is a synonym for 'astounding'/'shocking'/'amazing'". Needless to say that pointing this to Date rape drug or narcotic, or really ANYTHING pertaining to drugs, would be... well, WP:STUPEFYING. this is not a real redirect, I'm piping it to WP:SURPRISE for the bit. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 21:13, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- Crosswiki to wikitionary - I'm right there with Lunamann on reacting to this one, except my first thought is "synonym to astounding/shocking/amazing/etc", while my second thought goes to Harry Potter. I have never heard of narcotics being called a stupefacient before, though it makes sense in retrospect... but stupefying has no connection to stupefacient in my head whatsoever, and thus even less connection to narcotics. In this case, I'd just want it to go to the dictionary. I don't expressly object to outright deletion, but I think the dictionary would be more useful, so that's my official !vote. Fieari (talk) 04:46, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
- For the record, I don't object to a crosswiki redirect either, it makes sense to me. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 10:10, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
Roman CatholicnDiocese of Nha Trang
- Roman CatholicnDiocese of Nha Trang → Roman Catholic Diocese of Nha Trang (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Atypical typo in title. Thousands of diocese, and only one "Catholicn" redirect. BD2412 T 03:53, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- Speedy delete Seems like {{Db-error}} page move happened, without any significant history. Ca talk to me! 06:56, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry to reply like this, but aren't you an admin? You can delete this without fuss if this wasn't listed here. Intrisit (talk) 17:59, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
Betamine
Recommend deletion of this redirect, unless a reliable source can be found that betamine = betanin. Currently, the only evidence that's been presented is a 1980 patent that doesn't exactly say betamine = betanin. Google Scholar turns up three results and Google turns up nothing relevant. voorts (talk/contributions) 00:55, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- Please check out the chemical formulae. Unless I misread something, the formula in that patent for betamine is the same as in the article for betanin. Grv87 (talk) 16:36, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- The source that you found, Hagers Handbuch der Pharmazeutischen Praxis, Vol. 2, edition of 1969, lists synonyms:
- > Beetenrot. Betanin. Rouge de betterave. Bétamine. Rosso di barbabietola. Betamina. (E 162) Grv87 (talk) 18:18, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. Sources such as the CAS database (SciFinder) and PubChem 1 indicate betamine is the common name for a compound with the formula C9H10I2N2O2, for which enwiki has not content. The name should be vacant until there is content about the compound. Mdewman6 (talk) 19:13, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- Then it's a different compound with the same name. Could it be a disambiguation page? Grv87 (talk) 13:43, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per Mdewman6's findings --Lenticel (talk) 02:52, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
- Ok. I analyzed about 10 scientific articles that mention 'betamine'. Looks that it's a common word for typos. Besides betanin, it could also mean betaine, ketamine or Betadine. 2 articles use it for some other compounds. Not C9H10I2N2O2, but containing sulfur or phospohours. And 2 articles use 'betamine' for 'major pigment of red beet'. I think we could agree this means betanin. I checked the sources of these articles, they have 'betanine' and 'betamin'. So, we can see how 'betanin' becomes 'betamine'. BTW, 'betamine' as red beet dye is mentioned in one of House M.D. episodes. As for the patent, it references the article in Drugs & Cosmetic Industry. This article indeed has 'betamine', but no sources. And that magazine is unreliable, I found typos even in authors names. So, my proposition 1) delete redirect 2) save information about dental plaque disclosant in betanin article. Can we agree on this? Grv87 (talk) 17:38, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
- The content of the betamine article should be discussed on that talk page, not here. If you want to share some sources on the article talk page, I'm happy to take a look. voorts (talk/contributions) 17:41, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
- Will do. What's the process on redirect, should I delete it myself, or we have to wait for consensus? Grv87 (talk) 17:49, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
- Wait for the process to play out. voorts (talk/contributions) 17:55, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
- Will do. What's the process on redirect, should I delete it myself, or we have to wait for consensus? Grv87 (talk) 17:49, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
- The content of the betamine article should be discussed on that talk page, not here. If you want to share some sources on the article talk page, I'm happy to take a look. voorts (talk/contributions) 17:41, 30 May 2024 (UTC)