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Q1: Why is this article titled "Transnistria" and not "Pridnestrovie"?

A1: The preponderance of reliable English-language sources use the name "Transnistria" over "Pridnestrovie". See WP:COMMONNAME for relevant policy details and Talk:Transnistria/Archive 21#Requested move 17 February 2018 for the most recent move discussion.

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On 15 December 2021, it was proposed that this article be moved to Pridnestrovie. The result of the discussion was not moved.

The article looks like a propaganda leaflet

This article was written by completely engaged and biased editors who have prejudices against Pridnestrovie. There is nothing resembling a neutral point of view here, right down to the title of the article (Transnistria), which is a dirty political insult to Pridnestrovie, not its name. I believe it needs to be removed. 2A03:F680:FE04:20E1:F404:CF37:C4DC:DEC8 (talk) 11:14, 13 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Transnistria is an English word and is not offensive. All the editors of this article are independent editors and have used reliable sources. --LDM2003 ^{talk to me!} 19:29, 25 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I will allow myself to express an unpopular opinion here, but the article is really biased and reflects the purely point of view of Western ideologists in the context of the confrontation with Russia, in which Pridnestrovie is presented as one of the instruments of this confrontation. I do not consider it appropriate to discuss this now, because these concerns not only the topic of Pridnestrovie. However, the article is not only biased, but downright offensive, at least by its title. In this discussion, several pages earlier, commentators clearly explained how and in what context the term "Transnistria" (in relation to Pridnestrovie) arose and how it is used, so I will not repeat this. This is a direct politically charged insult that cannot be considered a name of the real region with real living people. There is not a single article on Wikipedia that, by its title, would insult the population of any territory other than this one. 80.94.250.208 (talk) 10:08, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, and any particular suggestions for improvement beyond a rant about artice title which anyway isn't going to change? — kashmīrī ^TALK 11:04, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

In an article with such a title, it makes no sense to change anything; it a priori has not encyclopedic functions, but propaganda ones, and has the character of hate speech. 80.94.250.208 (talk) 11:37, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If you have no desire to improve Wikipedia, stop writing here. — kashmīrī ^TALK 12:24, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You're not reading carefully. I wrote what needs to be improved; there is no other way. 80.94.250.208 (talk) 15:10, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Most articles need improving. Most things in the world need improving. Anything more specific? — kashmīrī ^TALK 15:15, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That is, indicating that the title of the article is unacceptable, that is, that the article cannot initially be improved because it contradicts any signs of encyclopedicity in this form, is not specific enough? How can you improve someone's insults? Add more insults? 80.94.250.208 (talk) 16:27, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your adequate assessment of this absurdity, friend! But this article is an excellent example of how Wikipedia has become an exclusively propaganda tool, and a very crude one at that. This stream of insults against Pridnestrovie is necessary precisely for edifying purposes, to demonstrate to people what this website has become (here, for example, is a good use case). Local politized provocateurs are doing much more harm to Wikipedia with this article than to Pridnestrovie, so I'm not sure there's any need to be outraged by these insults. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.19.215.86 (talk) 16:35, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

History before 1939

I would like to see something about the history of the area before 1939. Now it starts at that date. 2001:4C3C:DE00:A700:E9C9:5961:6918:7BA8 (talk) 19:44, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sure. Please feel free to add relevant content, based on reliable sources of course. — kashmīrī ^TALK 20:01, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not in this article but generally...

Why do we use Romanian/R.Moldovan designations for Romanian-language designators of things in Transnistria as opposed to Transnistrian ones (e.g. Flag of Transnistria is given as Steagul Transnistriei instead of Steagul Nistrean or Steagul Nistreniei)? Since we are giving names in the three official languages - surely it is more correct to use more official designations. Thought I should try to establish a consensus here before pushing anything myself. Bayonet-lightbulb (talk) 05:48, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I've only ever seen "Nistrenia" on Wikipedia. I am actually kind of doubtful this name exists. Not even the Moldovan Government, which surely would rather use the name if it was preferred by its inhabitants, employs it, it rather uses Stânga Nistrul ("The Left of the Dniester") or Transnistria. Super Ψ Dro 21:44, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I mean, the Moldovan Govt. doesn't use it for the same reason they don't typically use Приднестровье in Russian (although as that is a geographical designation like Transnistria you do sometimes see it (see section 470, in Russian)) - it is the short-form name of the de facto national state. As far as "official" (Transnistrian govt) sources go, it's used in the anthem and the constitution (Article 55, in Moldovan Cyrillic). Also in a couple of less governmental places, I found this journal article on Christmas carols and this little essay. Interested to hear people's thoughts in light of this. All the best. Bayonet-lightbulb (talk) 09:40, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Possibly incorrect water percentage?

Hello, I was looking over various countries' water area and was unable to find any official metric for Transnistria, so I was surprised to find that this Wikipedia did list a water percentage. However, looking over the article's history, this metric seems to just have come from some random person who added up the "listed area" of the biggest lakes. This doesn't seem like a proper source of information and it likely is inaccurate, since the "listed area" is often not perennial water area and it fails to account for smaller bodies of water, such as rivers (which can contribute to a substantial amount of water area).

Has revising this value been considered? Or is it just kept for archival reasons? 99.64.160.215 (talk) 23:55, 30 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The source of this seems to be this archive? 99.64.160.215 (talk) 00:03, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It should also be noted that this person gave no other source than "their own research." 99.64.160.215 (talk) 00:20, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, that definitely fails WP:CALC and WP:SYNTH. Removed. –LaundryPizza03 (d c̄) 00:44, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Where does the total area figure come from? –LaundryPizza03 (d c̄) 00:45, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It seems to show up constantly so I'm unsure of the actual source, but it is stated to be 4,163 km2 here which seems to be an official Transnistria page? There were other official looking pages that stated them number. 99.64.160.215 (talk) 01:11, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]