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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by Dharmabum420 (talk | contribs) at 07:40, 20 May 2007 (→‎[[:Image:Saracen_Land_of_the_Infidel.jpg]]: streamlining my drunken comments. obvious (and, admittedly ham-handed) irony doesn't really belong here.). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

If you are here to register a complaint regarding this bot's edits, before doing so please note:
  • There is a very clear policy regarding the use of fair use images outside of the main article namespace (the actual encyclopedia). This policy is located at Wikipedia:Non-free content criteria item #9. We do not permit the use of copyrighted images on portals, userpages, talk pages, or templates.
  • Even if you uploaded the image yourself, if it is copyrighted by someone else, you do not have the right of displaying it in a gallery on your userpage.
  • Permission to use on Wikipedia granted by a copyright holder does not grant permission to use outside of the main article namespace. There are two categories of images at Wikipedia; free license and non-free license. If it's non-free, even if used under permission on Wikipedia, it can not be used outside of the main article namespace. For it to be used so, it must be available under a free license.
  • Read this talk page and its archives before registering your complaint. It is likely someone has already registered a similar complaint, and that complaint will have been given an answer.
  • Bug reports are very welcome; removing images as this bot is doing per policy is not a bug.

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Shadowyze

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Bot malfunction

The bot just removed an image link from one of my archives. There's no rules against linking to fair use images, only to displaying them. I think you said something about fixing that earlier, but it obviously isn't working yet. Please investigate. - Mgm|(talk) 08:07, 15 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

May I see a diff please? —— Eagle101Need help? 18:27, 15 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Mmm, I've found it, consider it fixed. (bot won't run again till it is.) —— Eagle101Need help? 18:29, 15 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, I have fixed it, now the bot will replace instances of Media:foo with :Image:foo. This will prevent it from showing up in the file links (and perhaps confusing other bots), while still leaving the same functionality. Cheers! —— Eagle101Need help? 19:17, 15 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Bmw e46 tuning 29 small.jpg has been removed from my userspace. The racing games userbox which used the same image has also been fixed (replaced with Image:Lamborghini-Murcielago.jpg found in wikimedia commons). Thank you. Sadartha 12:53, 16 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Zanimum. An automated process has found and removed an image or media file tagged as nonfree media, and thus is being used under fair use that was in your userspace. The image (Image:CanYouFeelTheSilenceCover.gif) was found at the following location: User:Zanimum/Van Morrison. This image or media was attempted to be removed per criterion number 9 of our non-free content policy. The image or media was replaced with Image:NonFreeImageRemoved.svg , so your formatting of your userpage should be fine. Please find a free image or media to replace it with, and or remove the image from your userspace. User:Gnome (Bot)-talk 19:29, 15 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Gnomebot, I've deleted the page entirely. -- Zanimum 13:43, 16 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Please don't edit my userspace

Please don't edit my userspace without letting me know first. Thanks. —JonMoore 15:56, 16 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The userspace doesn't exactly belong to the users. If it did, they could host whatever copyright violations they please there and noone could do anything about it. But since the bot makes edits in pairs (removal, notification), I believe switching the order (first notify and then remove) would satisfy your conditions, no? Cheers, Миша13 16:36, 16 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I have now changed the bot to notify users first, then remove the image. I don't know why order is important, but its an easy change to make in the bot code. :) —— Eagle101Need help? 17:07, 16 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
If the "userspace doesn't exactly belong to the users", then hosting any fair use image isn't being used to any private purpose, correct? So how's that any different than being hosted in an encyclopedia article? Nagelfar 16:54, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
According to the legal reasoning behind fair use, which depends on the nature of the use, If the user page is using the image for linking to the article, how is that any different than an extention of the article itself? Part of the natural reach of the article's influence. The bot can't know that, but it's a perfectly possible situation. Nagelfar 01:56, 18 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

TURN OFF THIS BOT!

Can someone please turn off this bot, it is making the whole fair use saga worse while the programmer is on holiday! --Dynamo_ace 16:13, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

If it's working fine, I don't see a reason to shut it off. The fact that some people Don't like what it's doing if not a good enough reason. Миша13 16:32, 16 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Fair use images

Hiya, I'm getting a lot of messages at my talkpage about non-free images in my userspace. I understand the intent of the bot, but I think it's getting a bit overzealous in this case. The page in question, User:Elonka/Sandbox, is a temporary page that's being used to edit an article that's going to go back into mainspace. As such, the images are only there in my userspace temporarily. Is there a way that I can tag the page so that your bot ignores it? --Elonka 15:43, 16 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • No, there isn't. The way this is supposed to be handled is that while the article is in development in the sandbox, the images should be linked, not displayed. --Durin 16:43, 16 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
In that case, is there any particular reason why the bot doesn't simply convert the images to comment form like Orphanbot does? E.g. it deleted an image on WP:GL where an editor was asking for a replacement of it. Result: nobody could see which image was being discussed. Same situation where an image had been discussed on an article talk page. Changing the images to links wouldn't have destroyed the context. It also appears that the bot doesn't check if the image is shown on the page or not. My sandbox contained a link to an image, since I try to keep track of my uploads, however, the bot erases it even though I had made sure that the image would only be linked to but not displayed. Simply erasing information about the affected images simply causes more work for others. Changing images to comment form (like Orphanbot) or to links would give much less work for others. Valentinian T / C 19:38, 16 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Typically, the image linking creates layout problems. What image was removed is available in the history. Regardless of the case, the image can't be displayed. As to removing links, not displays, could you provide a diff? That would help diagnose. --Durin 19:53, 16 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
This [1] is the example I had in mind. Valentinian T / C 20:01, 16 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Ah yes. That particular diff was quite unusual. I and others had no idea that [[Media: was a valid prefix transclusion tag. Unusual. Could you use [[:Image in the future please? The use of [[Media: was so rare I recommended to Eagle to ignore it rather than coding for that use in particular. Thoughts? --Durin 20:07, 16 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, I consider that a bug, and I thought I had that usage fixed, I'll investigate though, consider the bot down until bug is fixed. :) —— Eagle101Need help? 20:13, 16 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Mmm actually looking at the diff, that is the correct behavior, it is converting the media link to an image link. There is no change in the functionality other then the fact that when you go on the image page, it won't show up as a file link, but rather will show up in the what links here. This is useful for other bots. If it is preferred I can have the bot not send a message, if that is the only change made to the page on that edit. (Also I am turning the bot back on, there is no error in code, if it turns out that not notifying the user in that case is desirable, I'll code it in :) —— Eagle101Need help? 20:15, 16 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Anyway, I've converted the link to [[:image form. Valentinian T / C 20:19, 16 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I'm unclear as to what the result here was. Is the bot still going to unnecessarily replace images located in talk pages that are only linked? For example, see this edit and this edit. Neither was needed since both images were just linked (As in not visible unless the link was clicked), and the change made by the bot only serves to disrupt both previous discussions. I'd revert both, but I'm not sure that the bot isn't simply going to do the same thing again. MarphyBlack 21:04, 16 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I've fixed the images in question. Valentinian T / C 21:39, 16 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
It's become clear since my last message that this issue was not taken care of as a result of the above discussion. These recent three consecutive edits somewhat illustrate that. There is nothing wrong with using the [[Media:image.*]] formatting in talk pages as this is very clearly still within the boundaries of acceptable fair use. The images are being linked, NOT made visible. It's a completely valid use. There's absolutely no reason to change them. I suggest to you, Eagle 101, that you alter your bot to compensate for this as these continued edits are bordering on disruptive activity. MarphyBlack 23:39, 16 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Oh crap!, thats a different segment of the code, fixing now (I fixed it for userpages). —— Eagle101Need help? 03:35, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It is now fixed in the running version of the bot, if there are any problems, please let me know :) —— Eagle101Need help? 03:41, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Also note I've reverted the bot's edits to that page, if it chooses to edit the page again, it will translate media files to :Image: files. The reasoning behind this is that future bots may not be looking for this, and both links provide the exact same result, just one (the media:blah.jpg format) puts the page in the file links portion of an image, while the :image:blah.jpg, does the same thing, but puts the page in the whatlinks here portion of the image page. —— Eagle101Need help? 03:45, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

bot block

Any edit by your bot to my user page will be considered vandalism, please prevent it from editing my user page. Jernejl 21:00, 16 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

If you do not include fair use images in your userspace, the bot will leave you alone. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 01:17, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I don't care about fair use images, that's not the point, i just don't want any bots editing my user page. Jernejl 09:53, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

If bot removed the actual free usage images i linked to - i don't care, the only thing that bothers me is the bot editing my user page (please keep robots and skynet away from my user page KTHX). Jernejl 17:48, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The content is mine, or will you tell me copyright is void on wikipedia? also, the bot isn't yours, or is it? can i please get a response of the person who runs the bot? Jernejl 18:51, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • The bot owner isn't always available. Since I'm knowledgeable on these issues, having done thousands of similar removals myself, I am responding on his behalf. Also, you do not own copyright to your userpage. When you make an edit, such as to this talk page, look at the line two lines above the edit summary box. The last sentence says "You agree to license your contributions under the GFDL". Everytime you make an edit to Wikipedia, you release your edits under that license. You do not hold copyright to your userpage. --Durin 18:57, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • Technically he does hold copyright to his userpage though, if no one else has edited it. Not that it matters since he also released his edits (including to his user page) under the GFDL. Garion96 (talk) 20:22, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Durin is right that anything you submit here becomes GFDL as is clearly mentioned in each edit window. Your userpage is not yours, perhaps reading WP:OWN would clarify matters. We do not allow fair use images in the user space because it is against copyright laws for us to do so. HighInBC(Need help? Ask me) 18:58, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
All you have to do is remove the fair use images from your usespace per our nonfree content policy. Regards. —— Eagle101Need help? 19:05, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

there are no free use images on my user page, there "was" one, and a bot edited my page because the picture got removed, i just don't like the idea of random bots doing edits to my user page, i don't care about the free use image.

also, last time i checked, even if i submit anything i write here under GFDL, it doesn't mean that i can't use what i wrote here somewhere else under a different copyright license, but my point is, i don't want any bots messing with my user page. this has nothing to do with free use images except this bot. Jernejl 22:17, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Please restore my userpage Richard W.M. Jones 21:04, 16 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Over-zealous edit

I understand fair use images not appearing anywhere other than the mainspace, but the bot just reverted a link to a fair use image.[2]

Linking to an image is the correct way of doing this. Please fix. EVula // talk // // 21:25, 16 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Happened to me too, the problem is the "Media" prefix. I've changed the image's prefix "[[:image" so it should work now. Valentinian T / C 21:38, 16 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Shiny, thanks. EVula // talk // // 21:57, 16 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion of user picture

hey man it's fine that you deleted my user picture, but do you know which (if any) pics of Gandalf I can use? It would be a huge help. Kanogul (talk) 22:25, 16 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Search and replace problems with non-free image removal

See [3]. The bot found a non-free image in the wrong place and consequently removed it, but it also removed what was straight text, a plain title. This is probably because once an image is identified by What links here, it does a straight search and replace on the page of the text of the image title, rather than only places where the image is actually used. This could be fixed by adding the [[ ]] brackets to the search and replace. Also, it might be a better action to simply uninclude the image while keeping the same title. This will make it so that someone reading the page still gets the meaning and can link to the image, without trawling through what could be a long page history, depending on where the image is. I don't see what is so important about preserving the formatting and dimensions. —Centrxtalk • 00:01, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I can do that, but there are umpteen billion ways to show an image. You can get them in templates, partial templates, with the Image, marker, without the image marker, gallary tags... well you get the idea. Its not a straight foward task. I'll look into what I can possibly do to prevent that though. —— Eagle101Need help? 03:25, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Mugen0.png

mugen0.png has been deleted from my userbox for "copyright reasons" although it is neccesarely "free" which I'm a little confused at, Is it bad to put it on my page at all even it is "free"? ~GhostSonic -Talk

I also noticed that another bot changed it to "non-free" game image too, possibly incorrectly ~GhostSonic -Talk
If you own the liscense to that image, and you were the one that uploaded it, you can change the tag to a free license. Please have a look at our page on images. Cheers! —— Eagle101Need help? 03:27, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Abhay IFV.jpg

The image of Abhay cannot be taken at the moment. It's not accesible to the public, since it is under development. So let the image stay. The image is in public domain released by the MOD (Ministry of Defence) Indian Government. The only problem is that it cannot be used for commercial purposes. The Image can be kept with fair use criteria. This applies to all images released by Government of India through their nic.in website. Chanakyathegreat 04:08, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, the images can also be used for commerical purposes. The only restriction here is that it must be reproduced as it is. Modification of the image is not allowed. Chanakyathegreat 07:42, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image:NonFreeImageRemoved.svg

To whom it may concern,

Hello, I just got your message and I don't understand a word that you are talking about. What image are you referring of? Please be more specific. King Shadeed 00:08, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Replied to on user talk. —— Eagle101Need help? 04:46, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

More excellence

see this edit

Can this bot please be fixed or stopped someday? — The Storm Surfer 05:13, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • The bot may have some minor teething problems, but the occasional mistaken removal as cited in the second removal in the link above is minor in the grand scheme of things. There are thousands upon thousands of fair use image use violations. I spent more than a year doing these by hand (as have several other people). The net effect is that we were incapable of keeping up with the constant stream of abuses of policy regarding this issue. The bot gives us a tool to combat this problem in a way that makes it possible to keep a lid on the fair use violations. I'm sorry that you were negatively effected, but it's an easy fix on your end. I'm sorry for the inconvenience. --Durin 13:20, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Fixed, the problem was due to the order of the bot's edits. Sorry about that. —— Eagle101Need help? 19:36, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Project 17 frigate.gif and Image:Project 71 Aircraft carrier.gif

Image:Project 17 frigate.gif and Image:Project 71 Aircraft carrier.gif are the computer generated graphics released by Government of India. No alternative is available, nor it can be taken since the construction is going on and it is not complete. Hence till the ships are commissioned, the public domain images can be kept in Wikipedia. Chanakyathegreat 07:45, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • These images are not tagged as public domain. If they are in fact public domain, please provide evidence of this. Without such evidence, we must assume they are copyrighted. --Durin 13:21, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Inappropriate removals

Re: Image:Lasolcommercial.jpg, Image:LSmagazine.jpg, Image:Raidcartoon.jpg. These images were inappropriately removed from my userspace. They are my own work, but licensed under fair use due to shared copyright - thus they are allowable in my own userspace. See the fair use rationale on the image description pages. This may be a problem with other shared copyright images too, not only mine. In fact, the bot even removed one of the images that has a dual licence (split between a magazine cover and the photo on the cover) - this should not happen! --Janke | Talk 08:40, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The images are fair use. Our policy disallows the use of such images outside articles. Hence, the removals were correct. Also, it is my understanding that you cannot "dual-license" like you did on Image:LSmagazine.jpg. GFDL is incompatible because it's a free license, while fair use content is not. The concept of licensing the photo differently than it's content (which is apparently what you're trying to achieve) is also pretty awkward. Миша13 09:43, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The policy is incomplete, since it does not take shared copyrights into account. Fair use in this case also applies to my user space, since I am the sole author of the drawings, and I can, by applicable copyright law, present samples of my own work in any medium I wish. I have restored them, but I did remove the magazine cover entirely from my user space, since that image is not entirely created by me (i.e. the cover layout is by the publisher). If you disagree on the shared copyright issue, please take this matter to the arbitration committee, thanks. --Janke | Talk 10:32, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • The policy handles it just fine. Since you can not release full rights to the images, the images must be treated as copyrighted. Thus, they can not be used in the way you desire. I'm sorry. --Durin 13:23, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia needs the right to use an image for any purpose including commercial or it can only be used under fair use. If you release it to such a license then the problem is solved, I use Creative commons. HighInBC(Need help? Ask me) 19:11, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"readd" to "re-add"? - suggestion

Hi Gnome (Bot).
You removed a nonfree media image from my userpage, which is just fine. However, your message (italics mine) included "I ask you to please not readd the image to your userpage and could consider finding a replacement image ..." For a moment I thought 'readd' was a typo, and wondered what 'to not read the image to my user page' meant. Then it clicked.
I'm guessing I'm not the only user to be puzzled by this. Perhaps consider changing 'readd' to 're-add' in the message? Could you please pass this on to your master?
Bot on, G(B) --Shirt58 08:57, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

 Done :) Thanks for the suggestio :) —— Eagle101Need help? 19:13, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Book cover scans

I was a bit puzzled by the removal of a scanned book cover. I scanned the book and created the image. Is it against policy to add our own scans of book covers? Thanks Ashley VH 09:12, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The fact that you scanned it is irrelevant. The author of the book is still the copyright owner. Thus, you cannot release is under a free license. It can only qualify as fair use and can only be used in article space. Миша13 10:07, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Could someone stop this bot?

This bot is surely malfunctioning. The copyright owner of two pictures had posted them om Talk:Sutton Hoo and this bot removes the links!--Berig 09:35, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Owner or not, these images were released under a non-free license. Such media are disallowed outside article namespace (Talk: is a different one). The bot did well; this was not a malfunction. Миша13 10:02, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
It is questionable whether bots should be used where human discernment is a better choice. The copyright owner was very happy that his two images could be posted on WP. I have left him a message and I am positive that he will add the necessary tags in a short while.--Berig 10:11, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The amount of work that has to be done on the subject of fair use violations disqualifies this as a job for humans to do. A much more reasonable solution is to delegate it to bots and let humans handle exceptional cases and mistakes. What is not appreciated is the hostility towards operators (see the lots of above posts) when the bots merely enforce our policies. Миша13 10:33, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I can assure you that for some of us who add many pictures to Wikipedia, the bots are very discouraging and even obnoxious when they post a cold message that you have forgotten to add the source, just because the human operator does not take the time to see that you actually did so (in e.g. the edit summary).--Berig 10:40, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Berig, there are thousands upon thousands of fair use image use violations. I spent more than a year doing these by hand (as have several other people). The net effect is that we were incapable of keeping up with the constant stream of abuses of policy regarding this issue. The bot gives us a tool to combat this problem in a way that makes it possible to keep a lid on the fair use violations. Humans have simply been incapable of keeping up with the workload, despite our best efforts. Misza13 is absolutely correct. I'm sorry this was discouraging to you. There's no intent for this to be the case of course.
  • Also, please note that permission to use on Wikipedia is insufficient. We have two broad categories of images here; those available under a free license, and those not available under a free license. Permission to use on Wikipedia does not make an image a free license image. You may wish to see this, from Jimbo Wales (who founded this project) regarding permission to use images. It is, simply, a non-factor. Either they are free or they are not. If they are not, they may not be used outside of the main article namespace. If the copyright holder wishes to release rights to the images under a free license, they may do so with such release information being sent to m:OTRS. --Durin 13:31, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No diret link to relevant policy

I had a couple of images removed from my userspace, and I have no objection to that. On my talk page, the notice I received included "This image or media will be removed per statement number 9 of our non-free content policy." However, it took some effort to find the relevant policy. I suggest that the quoted text be changed to "This image or media will be removed per statement number 9 of our non-free content policy." or some equivalent. This may also prevent some of the complaints that otherwise would appear on this talk page. — MSchmahl 10:34, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Past Masters Volume One and Two album cover

Why did you delete an album cover which is classified as an album cover? Steelbeard1 11:32, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Images are under fair use

As Autumn Forrester's partner I am going to jump in here. The pccaemblem image that this bot removed is under fair use. Please see Wikipedia:Logos for my reasons. I am realoading it and this is legal under the concepts of Wikipeia:Logo. The same goes for the sak comedy lab logo. Please reprogram your bot cause it's going crazy based onthe messegas on this talk page. Saksjn 12:43, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • Fair use images are permitted only on actual encyclopedia articles. I presume the bot removed a fair use image from a non-article that you have an interest in. This is in keeping with our policies as expressed at WP:FUC item #9. The bot is functioning properly, and there is no need to shut it down. There are a number of people who do not like what it is doing, but that does not change that what it is doing is in keeping with our policies. The problem isn't with the bot, it's with people who do not yet understand policy or understand it but don't want to see it exercised. --Durin 13:36, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Your bot tagged this image because someone altered the tag. Since when is changing a license tag allowed to call an image non-free? - Mgm|(talk) 13:33, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Partidul National Liberal.jpg

I do not understand what is the problem with the image... It is the official logo of a Romanian political party, and the licence tag iscorrect. Image:Partidul National Liberal.jpg ES Vic 16:19, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Gallery layout

On my userpage you edited this content which was within a Gallery tag:

Image:Red_road.jpg|[[Red Road (film)|Red Road]] film poster

to this:

Image:NonFreeImageRemoved.svg<!-- Red_road.jpg -->|[[Red Road (film)|Red Road]] film poster

However the HTML comments broke the layout of the page, preventing the .svg image showing up at all. Removing the comment fixed it. You may want to look at this and see if there is an alternative way you could do this. In fact I'm not sure I see the value of the comment at all, as a quick look at the edit history would reveal the source of the image?

Also I reiterate what a couple earlier respondents have noted about the language used in your comments. Insert links at the relevant parts to the relevant bits, and use plainer English. e.g:

... This image or media will be removed per statement number 9 of our non-free content policy. The image or media will be replaced with Image:NonFreeImageRemoved.svg, so your formatting of your userpage should be fine. ... Please don't add the image to your userpage again, and consider finding a replacement image licensed under either the Creative Commons or GFDL license or released to the public domain.

--duncan 17:41, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've fixed the bug, I'm working on writing a better message. —— Eagle101Need help? 18:55, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Clumsy

"Hello, Huw Powell. An automated process has found and removed an image... The image (Image:Mpc logo.png) was found at the following location: User:Huw Powell/Model Products Corporation. ... User:Gnome (Bot)-talk 06:53, 14 May 2007 (UTC)"[reply]

Clumsy. Thanks for the "warning". Luckily I still have the image on my hard drive. This was a sandbox version of an article I am trying to write. Image should stay on WP for the future use. Why not just inform me not to "display" it on my WIP page? I understand what you are trying to do/doing here, but surely a brief advance warning would make sense? Then we could comment out the use in our sandboxes, leaving the fair use image available for when the article goes live. Will I get in trouble when I go to reload it, later? Huw Powell 21:03, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • This bot did not delete the image. This bot does not delete any images. Please see [5]. An administrator deleted the image because it was an unused, fair use image that had been tagged as such for more than seven days. You're welcome to have articles in progress, but fair use images must be in use on live encyclopedia articles to remain on the project. --Durin 21:12, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe an exception for me?

Thanks for your bot keeping the fair use under control. And thanks for putting up with all the complainers- I think you're doing WP a good service. I just got a note about fair use images on User:Staeckerbot/Suspicious images. Perhaps your bot can ignore that page? The images there are meant to be very temporary, and the galleries are for quick verification that these images are duplicates. As far as policy goes, galleries at CAT:CSD routinely contain fair use images, but they are meant to be very short-lived. I hope that your bot code can accomodate an exception. Staecker 23:43, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah this is rather unique :S. Its for good purpose, and there is a need to see if there are duplicate images. Very unique situation, so I'll have my bot turn a blind eye to that page :) —— Eagle101Need help? 02:05, 18 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks- Staecker 02:07, 18 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

User:Kellergraham Image removals

Please note that the Societe de transport de Montreal doesn't require a license for use of their images. Please refer to this website for more information

But we do have permission to use them commercially or use them outside the context text listed? If not, then we have to call it fair use. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 18:45, 18 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Bug

[6]. —METS501 (talk) 01:29, 18 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed. I was modifying the code, and missed out on one letter, that used to be a <!-- wikicoment -->. Thanks :) —— Eagle101Need help? 01:57, 18 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Three problems

Three problems made me block the bot for now. First, see the section directly above this about a bug. Second, there has to be a way to avoid 107 edits to one page, especially all about images located on the same page [7]. Third, blanket find/replace strings (which it looks like the bot is doing) are not acceptable, as the aim is to just replace images. It screws up things like this. Feel free to unblock the bot when everything is sorted out. —METS501 (talk) 02:01, 18 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, Bug one is fixed. (it was already fixed) —— Eagle101Need help? 02:26, 18 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Bug 3 is fixed, I'm awaiting suggestions on how to fix number 2 as every bot that I know of stacks the messages. —— Eagle101Need help? 02:39, 18 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
All the messages is no problem, but I think 107 edits in a row is a bit excessive. Are you going through Wikipedia page by page, or image by image? If you're going page by page, then just check all the images on one page before posting messages about that page; if you're going image by image, then I guess there's really no convenient solution. Either way, the second one is the least big deal, so you can feel free to resume operations. I've unblocked the bot. —METS501 (talk) 03:26, 18 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The bot's activity on my page had only five images to deal with, but even that's interminable and inefficient. See the diff where I shrank the bot's commentary to what the bot should have written (in a single edit) the first time. Wareh 20:17, 18 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Bu b0y2007, an automated process has found an image or media file tagged as nonfree media, such as fair use. The image (Image:SLU.jpg) was found at the following location: User:Bu b0y2007. This image or media will be removed per statement number 9 of our non-free content policy. The image or media will be replaced with Image:NonFreeImageRemoved.svg , so your formatting of your userpage should be fine. The image that was replaced will not be automatically deleted, but it could be deleted at a later date. Articles using the same image should not be affected by my edits. I ask you to please not readd the image to your userpage and could consider finding a replacement image licensed under either the Creative Commons or GFDL license or released to the public domain. Thanks for your attention and cooperation. User:Gnome (Bot)-talk 18:51, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Never mind, I'm reverting what I had here before. This bot generates, clearly, far more complaint than praise in its mission to correct a potential future complaint about a nebulous difference between article and talk space. Do you honestly not have anything better to do with your time? dharmabum 09:22, 19 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the heads up, but your bot is broken as it did not replace the text correctly. Subsequently, I have altered the page to be more meaningful. See User:Ric man/Images gallery.
--ric_man 10:04, 18 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Bot edit failed to format link properly

Please see here for an example of broken formatting caused by this edit by the bot. I've since corrected it, but maybe there was a bug? Anyway, congrats on the good work you are doing, and thanks for spotting the problems with the Middle-earth wikiproject images page - we had already put fair-use images ouside the gallery tags as links, and now the only ones remaining inside the gallery tags are those that are properly marked as free, since I've moved the ones your bot found (which were of uncertain or limited use). By the way, I presume you aren't doing this page by page, as I'm going through the Wikipedia:Today's Featured Article archives, and finding only some of the non-free images have been replaced, or maybe you missed them deliberately - what criteria are you using? Carcharoth 11:46, 18 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah there was :(. Its fixed now though :) —— Eagle101Need help? 00:49, 19 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Bug?

Perhaps you could take a look at this? The bot replaced the image links only in its own notification. There are still user talk pages linking to Image:Nickelcreek.jpg because it's used in the {{WikiProject Nickel Creek Invite}} template. Jogers (talk) 12:13, 18 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Should be fixed. —— Eagle101Need help? 23:26, 18 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Bad Bot

1. Why did you delete my previous SIGNED comments. 2. Why do you totally ignore some of us. It seems that unless were one of your friends or an admin you delete our posts. Saksjn 12:19, 18 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The bot is getting a lot of messages, so archiving is pretty quick. Anyways, we do not delete posts at all unless the page is just getting too big, then someone archives. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 18:50, 18 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sandbox

A brief question about the policy under which this bot works. Isn't there some exemption for articles that are being sandboxed? It seems a little silly that they are being picked up too.

Couldn't there be some kind of sandbox category that entries could be added too in order to give them limited exemptions. I only ask as I've use my user space to sandbox project infoxboxes used by a couple of hundred pages, and their transculusions are being picked up in the sweep.

perfectblue 17:09, 18 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Since you are sandboxing articles, try using Media:Example.jpg for now. This is a bug that has been reported to the bot owner, but here is what we are getting at. While sandboxing of articles happen, not many people clean out their sandboxes and they linger for time. So, eventually, we will have to go through the sandboxes and clear out the fair use images. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 18:49, 18 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Edits made to my userpage

I'm really confused. I have a message from you on my talk page indicating that you removed (Image:Policemen and flowers.jpg) from my page User:CzechOut. But I never put that image on my userpage, nor can I find a record in the page history suggesting that this image was ever on my page. Could you please explain in greater detail what happened, since I don't wish to be seen as having violated a policy of Wikipedia. CzechOut 23:31, 18 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Not really your fault. There was a non-free image on the userbox Template:User Czech History which I removed. Since you have that userbox on your userpage, you got the Bot's warning. Garion96 (talk) 00:25, 19 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I never uploaded or used a non-fair-use image! Shut this bot down!

According to this bot, I used a non-fair-use image on my userpage. However, I have never uploaded any images to Wikipedia, nor have included them in my userpage or on any article I have written. I have edited an article with an image that was not fair use, but I wasn't involved in that at all. I edited a different section of the article. This bot is malfunctioning. Please shut down this bot. Ice Ardor 00:57, 19 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Please check your userpage for Twigge/Userbox/SST which had a fair use image in it. Hope that clears things up :) —— Eagle101Need help? 03:40, 19 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, that image was fair use. But I agree, shut this bot down! - PatricknoddyTALK (reply here)|HISTORY 11:05, 19 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
If it's not malfunctioning, there's absolutely no reason to shut it down. Миша13 11:16, 19 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

A request for a slight change

since this bot leaves a message on the talk page, the repeated message in the image box seems unneeded, rather than preserving my layout, it would be more helpful to replace the image with a direct link to it's location, you know Image:Fair-use image... -ΖαππερΝαππερ BabelAlexandria 01:42, 19 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This request cannot be done in all cases, there are multiple ways to put an image in an article. {{image|foo.bar}} (an image put in vie a template) cannot be turned into a link :(. As such it is safer to just swap out the images, with a commented out section saying what the image was. —— Eagle101Need help? 04:30, 19 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think people would mind the potential format breaking any more than they would having the page turned into a bunch of weird gray circles. --tjstrf talk 07:37, 19 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Then...

then remove the image!! don't spam my talk page, please (several times) --TheFEARgod (Ч) 12:43, 19 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This Bot keeps removing an image from my page which is not only my own, but is tagged as public domain. Most annoyingly, it also changes the link "Image:GrimhelmConversion.jpg" to "Image:NonFreeImageRemoved.svg", [8] so it adds an incorrect link to my page. Could it please be stopped from doing this? Thanks. :-) --Grimhelm 13:06, 19 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Failed replacement

Seems the bot fails to make replacements in some cases. Anyway... a userbox as subpage of my userpage used a non-free logo. the bot failed to replace, came back days later and failed again (of course) so... time for an upgrade? Eric Bronder 13:11, 19 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

For the record, I didn't upload this image. I just have it in a userbox. I also didn't put eliminate whatever threat of deletion you may have uploaded. There's no need for you to post the same message to me twice. ---- DanTD 13:42, 19 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Wait a minute; Three times? Gnomebot, you really are out of control, and deserve to be blocked. ---- DanTD 13:47, 19 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It did this because the image is in Template:Kim Possible. It's certainly a malfunction though. --NE2 15:26, 19 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, it's doing the same thing with me too. It just doesn't understand that the image isn't here, so I guess it keeps trying. Never seen my talk page fill up so fast ^_^; Or at all, for that matter... I think he's working on it, though. --Cartoonmaster 23:30, 19 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

bot malfunctioning

Hi, I've just deleted three messages the bot has sent me regarding an image. It has simply dumped the same thing on my page three times in a row when it had already left the message the other day. It is also yet to actually do anything about the image in question. If it continues like this, you may have to consider shutting the bot down. Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 14:23, 19 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

There was a non-free image in the userbox User:Junafani/Lordi. I removed the image.
Yeah, I know where the problem was. But the bot said it was going to remove it, then instead dumped the same crap on my talk page three more times. Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 14:40, 19 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

To Eagle101, is there a way for the bot to first go through templates/userboxes and then to userpages? I guess not actually since the userboxes are userfied. Garion96 (talk) 14:31, 19 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yep thats the problem, in any case, this run is complete, (or almost complete). So I'll just make the changes needed before running the bot again (confirming that an image was really removed), and figuring out why its having problems with subpages all of a sudden >.> —— Eagle101Need help? 17:40, 19 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This bot is still isn't working properly

I commented above about how this bot was breaking perfectly valid and non-forbidden links to images that appeared on talk pages. I was assured that it had somehow been fixed. However, the bot keeps making changes to the exact same images, even though they are just links (Meaning if I did revert the bot's changes, as I considered previously above, they would indeed just be broken again and again by the bot, just as I had predicted previously above). The only slight advantage this time is that the actual image name is being kept. Regardless, the link itself is still being horribly mangled. See here for an example of the same three images being altered (This is what happened three days ago). Here's another example of the bot devastating one particular conversation, rendering all the image links useless. Again, I'd like to stress the fact that these are only image links, i.e. NOT being included in a visible form on the talk page whatsoever. Therefore, there's absolutely no reason for the bot to be messing with them at all. MarphyBlack 18:15, 19 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for removing Orange Book image

Just a brief "thank you" for removing Image:Orange Book.jpg from a draft infobox in my user namespace. You're quite right that it shouldn't be there; I forgot to delete it after I had pasted the draft infobox into the article. Tamino 21:23, 19 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

PLEASE STOP

The image mentioned in the automated message isn't even on the page in question. Please stop this BOT. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kellergraham (talkcontribs). 23:24, 19 May 2007

No the images were transcluded on the page in question. The non-free images were on User:Kellergraham/BoxAMT which is a template/userbox on your userspace. I removed the images from there. Garion96 (talk) 22:35, 19 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Who OWNS the peace sign?

File:MLNW Button.jpg is not a copyrighted logo, as far as I know. Who owns the peace symbol? Please restore any changes in links to this picture.--Mike Nobody ¿ =/\= 04:20, 20 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Eh?!

Might I ask… Where this bot gets its information… I came on to look up something and noticed I had a new message. In the even of this, I go and check to see (like normal folk). Interesting enough… It is accusing me of uploading and image that violates the rules yatta yatta… I can clearly understand this… but I’ve never uploaded an image… I’ve added the message I got. So explain to me. Is it accusing me of something?

Hello Wayne McDaniel, an automated process has found an image or media file tagged as nonfree media, such as fair use. The image (Image:Forsaken-logo-for-the-world-of-warcraftgif.gif) was found at the following location: User:Wayne McDaniel. This image or media will be removed per statement number 9 of our non-free content policy. The image or media will be replaced with Image:NonFreeImageRemoved.svg , so your formatting of your userpage should be fine. The image that was replaced will not be automatically deleted, but it could be deleted at a later date. Articles using the same image should not be affected by my edits. I ask you to please not re-add the image to your userpage and could consider finding a replacement image licensed under either the Creative Commons or GFDL license or released to the public domain. Please note that it is possible that the image on your page is included vie a template or usebox. In that case, please find a free image for the template or userbox. Thanks for your attention and cooperation. User:Gnome (Bot)-talk 12:04, 19 May 2007 (UTC) Wayne McDaniel 05:31, 20 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

MY user talk page...

Please STOP removing photos from my user talk page without properly reading the permissions granted by the owner of the photos. The owner stated it was ok to use the photos on Wikipedia. Period. So I can use the photos I uploaded on my talk page. Thank you. --RaffiKojian 05:57, 20 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]