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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by Takwish (talk | contribs) at 21:36, 8 February 2008 (→‎Tuva Workgroup: response). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

Welcome!

Hello Sborsody, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you have any questions, check out Wikipedia:Where to ask a question or ask me on my talk page. Again, welcome!  --Wikiacc (talk) 21:10, 2 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. I see that someone has imported your fine GFDL article here from tyvawiki. I was wondering if you could confirm that the image you uploaded there is also under a free license. Thanks.--Pharos 07:58, 18 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, ussually hungarians like to inflate their numbers. They ussually add also the minorities. --Eliade 17:13, 30 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The general practice in math is to round the number up despite what hidden nationalistic motives anyone may have. Since you wanted to get into a reversion war with KissL I stepped in with the citation from the 2001 Hungarian census. --Stacey Doljack Borsody 19:03, 30 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for digging up the exact number. KissL 17:26, 30 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Why you made that irony Kiss? --Eliade 17:29, 30 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Altaic?

Hi, The main problem is related with the "(disputed)" tag, cause this leads misunderstanding. There exists Altaic Languages but there is going on discussion about Altaic thesis. This "(disputed)" tag causes the misunderstanding that "--- language's being Altaic is disputed". For this reason, i'm supporting to remove the "disputed" tag. The discussion should be done either in the Altaic Languages page or maybe better in the Altaic hypothesis page. e104421 3 September 2006, 20:15 (UCT)

Central Asia

If you are interested in adding to articles about Central Asia, please join WikiProject Central Asia - we would welcome you. Aelfthrytha 12:43, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hakozen and Huns

Please help improve his poor edits to the article, not just comment on the Talk page, if you have the time. I might hit 3RR, but it's obvious that there is community opinion against him, I just need other people to show up and act. CRCulver 23:37, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I can after dinner ;) --Stacey Doljack Borsody 00:05, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The sentence you inserted back is a pov style sentence (reflecting the opinion authors of the references), i paraphrased it in order to make article more neutral. E104421 17:06, 3 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The sentence is a quote from a source. Quoting sources does not make the article itself POV. --Stacey Doljack Borsody 17:09, 3 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, i'm not claiming so, but better to paraphrase. E104421 17:11, 3 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Huns

Have you ever read the contents of the link pages? 18:57, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

I'm not the one including Attila to the list. If his name stays in the list, the see also link is appropriate. For the Xiongnu article, there exists a section related with Huns. I just wondered why you really insisted on removing Xiongnu. We can discuss the issue in more detail if you want. Sorry, maybe because of the language barrier, i wrote so direct. What i want to say is the article related with Xiongnu contains material related with Huns. The see also links does not have to be directly related with the article itself. They just provide additional topics. That's it. Regards. E104421 21:03, 27 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've noticed your engagement in List of Turks. Taht article is - like most of the Turkey-related articles - flooded with POV. I've removed a few names that have nothing to do with Turkish people (see [1]) - but the article still contains countless POV claims.

Tājik 21:06, 27 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

RE: Tuva

The change of the name seemed a tad suspicious however, I will assume good faith. Have you proposed this name change on the talk page by any chance? If so then I have no problem with it.¤~Persian Poet Gal (talk) 23:33, 6 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Actually no need to check back I took a look at Talk:Tooruktug Dolgay Tangdym myself. Thanks for proposing it first and my apologies for any hard feelings.¤~Persian Poet Gal (talk) 23:52, 6 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Dingling

Hi there. I just wanted to drop you a note. You said you were frustrated by the reversions of the "main editor" of the Dingling article. There's an official Wiki policy on "ownership" of articles: Wikipedia:Ownership of articles. I'm going to drop a hint on the talk page of Dingling and see what happens. In the meantime, if you don't want to wrestle with blockheads, there are plenty of other articles that desperately need help. Thanks for writing. Cbdorsett 05:02, 28 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Barnstar

Sborsody, I present you with this Barnstar for your great contributions to articles related to Tuvan language and culture. Четтирдим! -- Takwish, 29 March 2007

The New Central Asia project page

Hi

I revised (a bit radically) the navigation system of the Wikipedia:WikiProject Central Asia. You are a member of the project, I would appreciate if you would compare with the old page and give a feedback on the talk page. I am asking this because some old members of the project expressed concerns. Thanks. cs 22:08, 1 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Could you please write a stub here - just a few sentences based on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurów ? Only 2-5 sentences enough. Please.

PS. Article about Kurów is already on 175 languages. If your village/town/city hasn't on PL wiki, I can do article about it. Pietras1988 TALK 17:32, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Hun CA wikiproject

You claimed that there was a concensus amongst wikiproject members in central Asia group, but nowhere else I could found any of such concensus, since you're a participant there, please enlightened me. My main consideration is that the history of early Huns are clearly illegible and a myth which cannot be taken as a historial facts, I'm suggesting an wikiproject ukraine to be replaced central asia ones. Eiorgiomugini 07:27, 11 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I wrote, Until there is consensus. In no way did I claim there was consensus. I agree with you that the article probably doesn't fall within the scope of Wikiproject Central Asia and the same can be said for Wikiproject Turkey (see Talk:Huns#WikiProject_Turkey?). But any wikiproject members are allowed to tag any article they want. The article then eventually gets assessed and if the assessment team thinks the article isn't relevant it gets removed from the project. You can bring this up with the Wikiproject Central Asia assessment team if you feel so passionate about it. Additionally, no Wikiproject Ukraine member ever tagged the article. You could add their tag to it and request assessment as well, but the fact that they haven't done it yet tells me they think Huns doesn't apply to them. You should probably keep in mind that the Wikiprojects are not attempting to classify articles, but improve them. If having the Huns article be a part of Wikiproject Central Asia or Turkey brings editors who can provide more information about the Huns, this isn't a bad thing. --Stacey Doljack Borsody 14:39, 11 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

genetic/geneological

Hi Sborsody,

Actually, a lot of linguists are abandoning the term "genetic" because of confusion with genetics, now that mainstream researchers are starting to take interdisciplinary approaches to history, combining genetics and linguistics. That's why I made the change at Yeniseian. kwami 17:34, 23 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Good job adding the reference that Reid used

Thanks.[2] And for the clean-up in style. KP Botany 03:36, 23 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

please justify unusual spelling

Hi, I reverted your unusual spelling of "Uriankhai" again. In the editor note to my first revert, I remarked that I can see no reason for your choice of spelling, and you still haven't provided one. This is not a matter of good or bad faith, but a normal procedure. if one of your edits gets reverted, then you need to justify it with rational arguments, not just with an exasperated complaint in your own editor note. --Latebird 18:23, 13 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Oops, now I finally figured that it wasn't actually you adding the strange spelling, you just turned it into a piped link. Guess I shouldn't just look at the right side of the diff screen. Sorry for the confusion... I now changed it to a straight link. --Latebird 18:31, 13 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

huns

how can you claim that huns speak a non-turkic language, with what kind of source?--hakozen 02:19, 24 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I made no such claim. Read the comments I left on Talk:Huns. --Stacey Doljack Borsody 03:18, 24 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]


you destroyed the page, bro. applause--Orkh (talk) 16:49, 10 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Magyaristani topic

Hi, i wasnt vandalising, i created a new topic with all the reference underneath, i understand u never of magyaristani but that doesnt mean u have to delete it and i was vandalising.--West Bank Boy 15:44, 25 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Overtone singing

At the moment, the sentence gives the impression that overtone singing "comes naturally to" the Tuvan people, giving the impression they are somehow genetically predisposed to be able to do this. Also, the parts of the brain which deal with language learning are very specific and different to cognitive learning in later life, and it may be misleading to say that this form of singing is learnt in the same way as one learns to talk. Being as the article makes these claims, it should be able to justify them with a source. If I am mistaken, and the sentence is not making these claims, then it should be rewritten as I'm sure I won't be the only one to misinterpret its meaning. Yeanold Viskersenn 15:16, 15 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your involvement in Hungarian prehistory

Also a Happy New Year to you! Squash Racket (talk) 07:17, 27 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

February 2008

Please do not remove speedy deletion notices from pages you have created yourself. Please use the {{hangon}} template on the page instead if you disagree with the deletion. Thank you. -- Mentifisto 18:11, 2 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Tuva Workgroup

Thanks for your invitation. For numerous reasons I am not joining any wikigroups (at least voluntarily). I do understand that workgroups are very important. At the same time I believe that my chaotic style of contributions is important as well. My primary goal is filling glaring gaps quickly as soon as I see them anywhere, leaving the work of polishing, "featured article" writing (and barnstar earning :-) to real experts it the corresponding domains. `'Míkka>t 18:48, 7 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Stacey! Thanks for the invitation, but I have to decline. Tuva only interests me as one of the federal subjects of Russia, on administrative and municipal divisions of which I am concentrating. This, I believe, is too narrow of a scope for a member of Tuva Workgroup. That said, please do not hesitate to contact me if I could be useful regarding those aspects of Tuva. Cheers,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 18:53, 7 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, I'll join your group. Tuva or Bust! —Keenan Pepper 23:17, 7 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure I have much more of value to offer at this point, other than grunt work--the articles are much more sophisticated now than when I was actively editing them. I'd be willing to help out with a team effort, though. Takwish | Talk 21:36, 8 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

WPCENTRALASIA

Yes, tell me where to sign up. Badagnani (talk) 18:59, 7 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

WP Central Asia

In your opinion has this quieted down, then? I missed the whole mess due to real life, but I was quite concerned to come back and find what I did. It doesn't give me special rights of control, but I do have special feelings for the project because I founded it. Don't like seeing fights. No other deletion proceedings or battles on? Aelfthrytha (talk) 01:58, 8 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I haven't seen hide nor hair from User:John Carter since Feb. 4. It seems like a lot of the discussion and arguing went on elsewhere. I don't watch any pages related to deleting wikiprojects so I can't say for certain, but I would imagine that if there were some sort of proceedings going on, it would not be so in the dark like the arguing between John Carter and Latebird. --Stacey Doljack Borsody (talk) 02:16, 8 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Central Asia

I would love to be part of a Central Asia project, though I have been very busy lately and I can't promise I'd be able to contribute often. Let me know if you need anything specific that I can help with. Jag är glad över att ha träffat du! -Nathan (User:Aelffin)