Talk:Pinky and the Brain

Pinky, Elmyra, and the Brain

I've seen complaints that Pinky, Elmyra, and the Brain was the death of the series, but my suspicion has always been that it was a case of the animators cutting loose because the show was already doomed anyway.

Does anybody know for sure what the circumstances were?

—Paul A 01:21, 13 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Not completely sure about the circumstances, but they added a line to the theme song for the elmyra version that said something along the lines of "It's what the network wants, why bother to complain?" --Measure 05:15, July 23, 2005 (UTC)

Pinky's Accent

What was Pinky's accent? That info belongs in the article, if anyone knows. Meelar 22:42, 5 Apr 2004 (UTC)

I have no idea, but I'm pretty sure both the suggestions in the current version of the article are wrong. Speaking as an Australian, I'd always assumed it was some species of American accent. --Paul A 08:37, 22 Jul 2004 (UTC)

It sounds a lot like Dick Van Dyke's poor imitation of cockney than real cockney. Article updated. --Barberio 23:04, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

nimrod

Nimrod is defined as a hunter. Merriam Webster.

And also as "A person regarded as silly, foolish, or stupid."[1] --Paul A 02:24, 20 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Apparently, nimrod in that sense comes from Bugs Bunny using towards hunter Elmer Fudd - he was being ironic but supposedly audiences took it as a generic insult.

Anyone remember the theme song?-LtNOWIS 21:08, 28 Nov 2004 (UTC)

A-Team?

Removed this:

"They are a reference to the television show The A-Team." (pertaining to the catch phrase "try to take over the world", presumably).

If this is not a total non sequitur, could someone back it up with a reference or explanation? JRM 15:13, 2004 Nov 30 (UTC)

Pinky Gay?

Was pinky gay? I remeber him having a crush on an apparently male horse?--Measure 23:24, August 16, 2005 (UTC)

The horse was named Phar Fignewton, and I think they explicitly said that it was a female horse. Not that that makes much more sense. -DynSkeet (talk) 12:12, August 17, 2005 (UTC)

The horse appeared in several episodes. I assumed Pinky's apparent crush on this horse was borrowed from a character (called Pinky) played by Harpo Marx in Horse Feathers, where Pinky (Harpo) displays a crush on a horse. Additionally, although we assume Pinky is male, in a couple episodes he plays a mother or a wife/homemaker. It's a cartoon, don't take things so seriously. ~enjerth 67.132.189.200 22:43, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Pinky and the Brain videos

It might be helpful to have links at the bottom to places to get a hold of the pinky and the brain videos. User:Humanitarian 28 August 2005 16:46

I don't think Wikipedia is in the buisness of advertising. People can look for them selves. --John R. Barberio ^{talk, contribs 17:39, 28 August 2005 (UTC)}

other smart mice

Is Mrs. Frisby and the Rats of NIMH far too tangential to mention here?

I'd say "yes". They're all listed in Category:Fictional mice and rats already, that's probably enough. Unless we can show the book had some influence on the creators of the show (which would be interesting), it's not relevant. JRM · Talk 09:20, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

Pinky and the Brain DVDs

Yes, finally the time has come. This is no joke! The news can be found at http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/newsitem.cfm?NewsID=4384 for those wanting the details. --Kamasutra 04:11, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

Pinky and the Brain in films

They are in the Animaniacs film Wakko's Wish. Anyone have more info on that? 71.250.51.234 19:08, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

Episode Add in Brain's Plans

Minor add. There was an episode where the Brain tried NOT to take over the world, but instead, a group of people hail that he should be ruler of the world. Colonel Marksman 19:01, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Grammar

At the end of the Larry section, the bit 'and reminders what he is a part of the episode' should be changed to 'and reminders on why he is a part of the episode'.

Also, at the beginning of the Incarnations section, it says 'Pinky and the Brain were spun off into their own half-hour series' when it should read 'Pinky and the Brain was spun off into its own half-hour series'. "Pinky and the Brain" refers to the show, which is singular.

CGameProgrammer 18:33, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

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Speaking of larry, uh, he wasn't brown. He was white like the others, and clearly a mouse. he just had brown hair

Video links

I don't know if this is considered OK to link to, but YouTube has some short clips from the show, including the great "... and Larry" introduction sequence. Can stuff like that be added to External Links?

CGameProgrammer 18:33, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Vandalism

I just briefly looked over the article, and it stated that in a historical show, Brain and Pinky traveled back in time to become Prime Minister instead of Goerge (sic) W. Bush... It seems to me to be an obvious case of vandalism, but I am unfamiliar with the show. Could someone with necessary knowledge locate the actual person? Crisco 1492 19:19, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

External link warning

In order for us to catch spam, we need to keep the external links section as small as possible. To do that, please create a References section and move the links that had been used as references there. Official sites and sites that had not been used in order to build the article belong to the external links section. If possible, use inline citations to allow us to know where each reference was used in the article. Thanks. -- ReyBrujo 12:14, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

In the credits

Like a lot of WB shows, this one had something secret to look for in the credits, and I think it was a vocabulary word.. Shouldn't there be some mention of it?

--Agreed...I just watched a few episodes and came here expecting some mention of it, but to no avail Progoth 07:31, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Featured?

This article seems of relatively high quality. Does anyone else think that it should be featured?--Jickyincognito 08:57, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Picture

Perhaps we need a new picture with more contrast? Freezing the mainstream

Splitting the page?

Does anyone else think it would be better to have two Pinky and the Brain articles- one for the characters and one for the show? At the very least, I think the one article we've got should definetly give more information about the show- I was recently rewatching it on DVD, and there's a lot to be said, looking back it was very groundbreaking. We could easily get an article going discussing the show's use of non-sequiturs, spectacular lack of continuity, absurdist humour, unusually dark tone, and the Brain's staggering verbosity, odd especially for a kid's show. I mean, in the few episodes I watched, the show was suddenly (and without explanation) set in 1950s Japan, or 19th Century Paris. The pair often approach and interact with humans regularly, with not so much to disguise them as a coat and hat (in fact when pressed, the Brain will actually admit they are lab mice, and nobody seems to realize he is serious). In one episode, Brain is even legally found to not be a mouse in Court. Anyway, you see my point- the show needs discussion independant of the characters' page. Anybody agree?Krawnik 07:20, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Reading Level

Content quality is OK, but writing level is considerably above the level of even an Economist reader, for a topic that on the level of a child, or maybe a high school grad adult. Bring down a couple notches folks, this isn't jungian psychology here. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Merceris (talk • contribs) 22:50, 9 February 2007 (UTC).

Quotes

• Which episode had the quotes go like this:

Brain: Pinky, set faces on concerning the universe.

Pinky: Righty-O, Brain.

Not True

According to the article:

The Brain bears a resemblance to Orson Welles, particularly in his vocal characteristics (voiced by Maurice LaMarche).

This is not true. An accurate statement would be, "The Brain (voice by Maurice LaMarche) sounds like Maurice LaMarche doing Orson Welles." Or better still, "Maurice LaMarche does the same voice for The Brain and Orson Welles even though it sounds nothing like Welles."

CITING SOURCES PROPERLY

Hi, just wanted to make sure that anyone who sites something should do so properly and in an orderly manner. So, when citing a source, use these citation template guidelines (remember, not every single thing has to be filled out; write as much as you know). If you need to see an example, just look at the syntax of any featured article. Thanks,
Gak Blimby 01:55, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

I've been trying to add references for specific episodes and using the citation formation; I'll go back to fix the URL-based ones as well. --Masem 04:37, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Getting page to GA status...

I've done a lot of work over this last weekend (in conjunction with watching the 3rd DVD volume, which helps) to fill in episode references and much more to get this page close to a review towards being a Good Article (much like the Animaniacs article). There's a couple episodes that without watching I'm blanking on (eg which one is where Pinky gets the world leaders behind him and then Brain blows it), and the "Direction", "Writing", and "Popularity" sections could use some help. --Masem 16:44, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Peer Review

I have noticed that there is alot of information in the 'Brains plans' section, and some of it too specific for a section on a general topic. Instead of deleting the information or keeping it there, I suggest we move the article's contents into the article List of Pinky and the Brain episodes and place each plan in its respective episode. In the Pinky and the Brain article, there should be very basic facts under 'Brain's plans', similarities in all or most of the plans. This way, both articles can live up to higher Wikipedia standards and the plans section can still exist. Furthermore, it'll prevent the article from being accused of having a 'trivia' section.
Gak Blimby 23:00, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

I agree that the plans list is somewhat heavy for the article, but by episode list standards, that much text for each episode is too much to have in the episode list description. And Brain's part of the article already sort of has the general summary of each plan, but that info can be culled into the section below. --Masem 00:02, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

OK, so how about we add move the more specific parts of 'Brains plans', but not every single detail, and move what's left of the general info to the 'Premise' section? Seems like it'll make things more organized. [See the featured The Simpsons (season 8) for a good representation]. --Gak Blimby 00:14, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Yea, that's fine - I've seen other FA episode lists shorter, but if that's allowable, then no reason to not keep those details there. --Masem 00:39, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Done. --Gak Blimby 02:08, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Peer Review... Part Two

Right now, I'm gonna reorganize the 'History' section. It looks a little messy.
Gak Blimby 02:24, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Ok, I think we're almost there to get a GA review. The only thing I see missing right now is that there's a paragraph in both Brain and Pinky's section that is truthful but lacking references (all to episodes, so it's not like things have to be searched down) --Masem 16:15, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Minor Note On The Brain

In the article, it is mentioned that The Brain's voice and mannerisms are similar to those of Orson Welles. Am I the only one who thinks that it's appropriate (considering the style of the Wikipedia seen in other pages) to note that the person who voiced The Brain also did the voice of Orson Welles in Ed Wood? Zirka 14:58, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Maurice LaMarche's page already notes that he's done several Orsen Welles characters in not only Ed Wood but other cartoons (Note that it appears that because . I'm not sure how including that fact here would necessarily help this article, but as long as Maurice's page is wikilinked it, people can find that out. (Unless, of course, there is some article that states that Maurice was chosen to voice the Brain based on his Ed Wood performance or a similar connection, which then can be added, but I am unaware if such an article even exists.) --Masem 15:10, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Dropped in for GA review

If you can't tell from the header, I've put the article up for GA review. The only section I think is really weak is the popularity one, and that's basically because trying to find news reports of such ratings and the like from pre-2000 on the web is very tough. If anyone has anything (like old TV guide articles or somesuch) please help fill that section out a bit. --Masem 16:12, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

GA considerations

Good enough to warrant GA class. If you were to take this to FA, however, they might want more of it to be sourced. Also, you might find it better to slim the article down by moving the Character section to a new article, with only brief descriptions on the main page. David Fuchs ^(talk) 18:31, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Article coverage

Can you insert a message something like this into this article?

"This article deals with the duo but also the television series."

--JSH-alive 15:31, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Good point -- I'm trying to see if there's a template or standard approach for this. (Do note that the lead does mention the show, but not exactly as you are suggesting.) --Masem 15:43, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Presently put up as a dablink generic template. Going to check with WP:TV project to see if they have other suggestions. --Masem 15:49, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Snowball's and Romy's names

"It has been speculated that Snowball is a direct allusion to George Orwell's character in Animal Farm. This speculation is supported by Brain's juxtaposition to Napoleon Bonaparte, whose namesake is Snowball's rival in the novel." I find it interesting that the book characters Snowball and Napoleon are inspired by Trotsky and Stalin respectively, but it's the Brain who's called Trotsky in Brain's Day Off. (But perhaps Stalin is with him in Megalomaniacs Anonymous?) Also, the hamster Snowball seems to be be a more negative character than the Brain.

"Effectively the offspring of both mice, Brain calls him "Roman Numeral One" (implying that more clones were to follow), which Pinky shorts to "Romy" (pronounced ROH-mee). (Later in the episode, Brain occasionally refers to him simply as Roman.)" I think that before Romy runs away, Brain always calls him Roman Numeral One, and in the rest of the episode, he always calls him Roman. Maybe it reflects a change in his relationship to his clone? But I've only seen Brinky, I haven't read the comics (Romy appears in at least one), and I don't know if he returns in later episodes or in Pinky, Elmyra & the Brain.

--Kletta 12:43, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Another allusion

another allusion i know of was in the new batman adventures episode "torch song"

Batman:(to batgirl) So, what are you doing tonight?

Batgirl: Same thing we do every night Pinky!

Batman: What?

Batgirl: Never mind...

Why the heck are they showing it on Jetix

Jetix is full of a bunch of crappy shows. Toon Disney airs classics. If they are going to show it on Toon Disney then don't do it on Jetix. I could understand if they are airing Batman and Superman because they are action. They may be classics but they're action. The Pinky and the Brain has no action in it, It was basically a comedy and that's it. Why do they have to show all of this on Jetix. It's just expanding the stupid block. I want my classics back!!!!!!!!!!!! --Mr. Comedian 23:17, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Agree, but then again I'm just happy that it's actually back on TV. Maybe it will be there long enough for them to find a new spot. WAVY 10 Fan 14:22, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

You got a point there. And heck, I'm so happy it's back on TV too! I missed this show so badly. I don't like much new shows. I mostly go for the sitcoms of the 80's and the cartoons of the 90's. The two programing blocks I miss the most are ABC's TGIF and One Saturday Morning. --Mr. Comedian 20:56, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

'Genius' section needs revision

The "One is a genius, the other's insane" section is much too long and overwhelmingly argumentative. Claims such as

"Other elements suggesting Pinky's mental superiority can be noticed throughout all episodes."

needs a bit of revision. Thoughts? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.155.5.238 (talk) 04:36, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Soulja Boy / YTV

YTV stopped airing it since a month ago or so. Also, should we mention in this article about Soulja Boy's Album 'souljaboytellem.com', the intro has a reference to Pinky and the brain 99.237.153.162 (talk) 02:00, 16 February 2008 (UTC)