Talk:2008 Summer Olympics

Calendar

There used to be a very helpful calendar here, similar to the one in the 2010 olympics. Where'd it go? Host of the first ever Webkinz Suvivor! The UberNerd! (talk) 12:11, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I want to know the same thing. I was the one who made it, and then someone must have taken it down. Granted, it was big and bulky, but someone should put a calendar section back in, at least describing the calendar of events and linking to the actual calendar. Jared (t)  00:46, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

The calendar was removed in this edit, presumably because the editor didn't like it being transcluded from another live page. I've been bold and restored the calendar, this time with a proper merge. Bluap (talk) 23:30, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Why is the calendar table in a collapsed box? I think it's important enough info to be always visible, no matter how bulky it is (it's not transcluded from another page, so it can't be a matter of decreasing article weight). Parutakupiu (talk) 19:52, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Fixed the unhide collapse field. The List of NOC was also unhide. Anyone know if the "List of NOC" is supposed to be 100% the same as the "Nations at the 2008 Summer Olympics" template at the bottom? If so, why do we have two of the same tables?? Benjwong (talk) 20:05, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Point well taken. Although it has always been a custom of WP:OLY to display all the nations participating in the text of the article. I'm not sure how to resolve this, though, because what you say makes sense. Jared (t)  20:39, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

I've taken the calendar table out of the main table in which it was nested, since there's no reason for the latter to exist anymore. Parutakupiu (talk) 23:06, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

I originally put both the calendar and the list of IOCs in collapsible boxes since they take up a fair amount of real estate. They might be OK with the article as it is currently, but they article is going to expand considerably once the Olympics actually start, at which point having these tables pre-collapsed might be better Bluap (talk) 02:43, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Yay! It's back! Thanks to whoever put it back, it's much better now. spider1224 14:38, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Based on past calendars, I've started to "bullet-out" events in each row. See User:Jared/sandbox1 for the version that I am talking about. I think it's a great way to link to each event that is to be contested. In theory, 302 bullets should be in the chart, but that is nearly impossible to do with cells like Athletics where 7 finals are contested in one day. Does anyone have a fix to this, so that bullets can exist there? Maybe a 3-2-3 pattern, or something. Also, I have yet to finish the table, so if anyone wants to find the other dates, please be my guest! Thanks! Jared (t)  14:14, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Nice idea. Perhaps the solution to the problem would be to place a single bullet in each box (not only finals = yellow), linking to a page with information about the events per sport per day. 62.90.151.249 (talk) 15:51, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

I see you've put your calender. It looks a bit bulky, if you ask me.. please consider my suggestion. 62.90.151.249 (talk) 10:21, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Your suggestion is probably more aesthetically pleasing, because 6 bullets per cell might be a little overkill, but maintaining pages per sport per day is something WP:OLY has never done, and something that would take a lot of work. I do believe it makes more sense to have 302 bullets in the table, so that at any one time during the Olympics, anyone can see and get more information on all of the event finals being contested that day. Certainly if there is consensus to return the table to just numbers I won't put up a fight, but I really do think this is best. Jared (t)  14:59, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

I don't think it would be too much work. We already have the tables made (in the "Competition Schedule" section of the " *** at the 2008 Summer Olympics" articles) - it's just a matter of creating some 300 articles... Like you said, this option is more aesthetically pleasing, and it also would allow one to follow preliminary competitions as well as finals. We'd also have to link the different events in the table to the appropriate event page. Alternatively, we could create pages only per day ("#th of august at the beijing...").62.90.151.249 (talk) 07:52, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

I think that is best - having one page per competition day, and keeping the bullets the way they are. I began making the links from the "Competition Schedule" tables to the event pages. I've also created a "The 6th of August at the 2008 Summer Olympics" sample article (I could use some help with that, thanks..) Almyajid (talk) 10:29, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

No demonstration sports?

Won't there be any demonstration sports, as with Basque pelota in 1992? Badagnani (talk) 22:19, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Oh, it appears that a wushu competition will take place. It isn't mentioned in the article yet. Badagnani (talk) 22:21, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Demonstration sports were abolished after 1992. One of the rules of hosting the Olympics is that no other major sports event takes place in the city around the time of the Games. The IOC agreed to waive the rule for the Wushu tournament but it hasn't any official link to the Olympics. Topcardi (talk) 22:35, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

A couple of paralympic races are usually included in the main athletics programme, but they aren't counted as demonstration events either... Bluap (talk) 22:52, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Someone recently added a note that chess will be a demonstration sport - no references are provided, and no mention has been made elsewhere. Is this accurate or just some schlub putting up bad facts? Chazerizer (talk) 14:29, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Controversies

Benjwong, would appreciate if you could please explain why my edits to 'controversies' regarding media access were reverted. These were cited to today's NY Times, so obviously it is an ongoing concern despite BOCOG's announcements, and as evidenced by the IOC member's quote, this is not a minor controversy.Spinner145 (talk) 05:50, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Hei guys I was reading about the controversies. Yeah there were demonstrations about human rights but don't forget that torch relay also initiated some Chinese to fight aganist certain western medias such as cnn, (e.g anti-cnn.com) and the French president. My point is that, there are two sides to this thing. One is those demonstrators of human rights, and the other side is those who are aganist those demonstrators. This article needs to be more balanced by including those who are aganist those demonstrators. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.26.161.119 (talk) 09:17, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

I'm not sure what you're proposing here. On the portion about the torch relay I think it might be a good idea from an NPOV perspective to mention the large numbers of overseas Chinese who demonstrated in support of the '08 Olympics along the relay route. On the other hand, Chinese protests of Western media coverage seems a bit too tangential. I think the best we can do for the 'controversies section is to set out what the controversies are in the most NPOV way possible, but given length limitations we won't be able to fully explain all points of view. Let me know your thoughts--happy to hear any suggestions you can offer to improve NPOV on this section.Spinner145 (talk) 02:38, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Participating NOCs

On participating NOCs, I noticed that Chinese Taipei was placed straight after China. This is actually an error. Even though Chinese Taipei does come straight after China alphabetically, it was decided in 1984 that Chinese Taipei would enter into the Olympic arena in the IOC directory order. Chinese Taipei is represented as TPE, with the first leter starting with T rather than C. This was done to avoid confusion. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.130.149.154 (talk) 08:27, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Not precisely true. Teams enter the stadium during the Opening Ceremonies in the alphabetical order in the language of the host nation. It differs for each Games (Korean in 1988 and Greek in 2004 had some interesting ordering for people expecting English), and it has nothing to do with the country code. — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 17:58, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

In the news on the Main Page

A proposal to add a link from Template:In the news to an Olympics highlights page for the course of the games is currently up at Template talk:In the news. The highlights page will presumably be 2008 Summer Olympics highlights, which follows the format of similar pages from previous Olympics. Comments, and editors interested in maintaining such a page, are welcome. - BanyanTree 09:42, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

2008 Beijing Olympics Newsstand

Full News Coverage of the 2008 Beijing Olympics Enjoy non-controversial news coverage. Updated 24 hours a day. May the best athlete win! --Isavesmart (talk) 03:27, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Chess?

Chess is one of the event?where to you get the news?--58.177.113.40 (talk) 16:35, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Iraq re-admitted

Please, someone who is a native speaker of English, please modify the article, list of participating countries and following paragraph, since Iraqi athletes will be able to participate in the Olympic Games (see web page of the IOC, news 29 July 2008) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.209.101.176 (talk) 20:41, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Torch Relay - Taiwan

The wording for the section on the torch being diverted away from Taiwan should remain as is. While China's point of view is that it is a province, this view is not shared by all peoples, or even countries for that matter. Stating that it is, definitively, a province is bias, just as if I wrote "the independent country of Taiwan". So, leave it as is. Kerui 18:09, 27 July 2008

The 2008 Beijing Olympics will also mark the third time that Olympic events will have been held in the territories of two different National Olympic Committees

I don't think that this statement is correct. In 1956, the equestrian events were held in Stockholm rather than in Melbourne, but I can't think of any other occasion when this occured. Would anyone care to provide us with details when this happened on another occasion? Moldovanmickey (talk) 23:23, 29 July 2008 (UTC)MoldovanMickey

At the 1920 Antwerp Games, one of the sailing events had entries only from two Dutch boats, so after the first race in Belgium, they finished the best-of-three in the Netherlands. (See IOC website; "only event in Olympic history to be held in two countries") This is an entirely different situation from two organizing committees splitting the Games (Melbourne/Stockholm), or from one organizing committee having events in the territory of another NOC (BOCOG running equestrian events in Hong Kong), so grouping all three of these situations together with cumbersome text seems odd to me. — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 23:42, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Doesn't it have a home page?

There is no 'external links' section. --fs 13:22, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

About Chinese Taiwan and Tibet issues

I understand what you meant by the simply saying of Taiwan and Tibet. I understand that you know exactly Chinese territory includes Taiwan province and Tibet Autonomous Region, which are recoganized by UN and all countries' governments. However, it is confusing when you just simply say it especially to people who don't have any background knowledge about Chinese internal issues. So please use the correct official names, which is under the recoganition of UN, i.e. Chinese Taiwan province and Chinese Tibet Autonomous Region.

I will appreciate your kind adjustment.

Thanks and regards,

AlexBluesAlexBlues (talk) 14:39, 31 July 2008 (UTC) contribs) 15:57, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

With regards to Taiwan issues it is not appropriate to refer to Taiwanese authorities "Chinese Taipei" or "Chinese Taiwan". Chinese Taipei is the name of the Olympic team from Taiwan, but these are not the name of the government of Taiwan. References to Taiwanese governing authorities should be to "the Republic of China (Taiwan)", while it is correct if referring to Taiwan in a geographical sense to call it simply "Taiwan". See Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Chinese). Also, you have tried several times to inject into the article the unsubstantiated claim that Tibetan independence groups are supported by the CIA. This is an inflammatory accusation for which you have not provided any support. If you have some documentation of this, bring it here for discussion. If not, you should stop making these edits.Spinner145 (talk) 02:32, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

A Chinese View: The government of the Republic of China was the central government of Whole China. However after the civil war, ROC government was defeated and retreated to Taiwan province. Current situation is the legacy of the civil war. However, ROC is not recoganized by UN, and there is no ROC (Taiwan), only Taiwan province. Both sides now are working on the reunification. Therefore, using Tanwan authorities is more accurate to describe Tanwan's current situation.

It's the public secret that CIA controls the Tibetan movement by providing the fund and the military instruction. Some staff even published the books to release the detailed information. Political powers behind the movement made things worse. Dala Lama should have won the heart of the nation. However he lost it. This is absolutely a Chinese internal issue. Without All Chinese cooperation, he can do nothing. Nobody trust him in China. And We don't care any more what he is going to do, doesn't matter whether it is so called peaceful movement or violence.AlexBlues (talk) 14:38, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Alex, I appreciate your opinions on the PRC / ROC issue. However naming conventions are discussed at length on the page I linked to: Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Chinese). I quote a relevant passage: "One subtle yet important point: Wikipedia treats the Republic of China as a sovereign state with equal status with the People's Republic of China, yet does not address whether they are considered separate nations. Taiwan should not be described either as an independent nation or as a part of the People's Republic of China. Wikipedia should merely state the de facto situation that Taiwan is governed by an independent government/state/regime called the "Republic of China."" These guidlines have been exhaustively established through consensus, and it is not incumbent on individual editors to change them ad hoc.

With regards to your allegations of the CIA being behind Tibetan independence movement, you have yet to provide a reliable, verifiable source for a very inflammatory accusation. Again, let's please try to keep this as NPOV and follow wiki conventions. The link you cited is insufficient to support your allegation that the Tibetan independence movement is a CIA puppet--all it says is that nearly 60 years ago a single CIA agent spent a year in Tibet. Please review Wikipedia:Verifiability and please try to seek consensus Wikipedia:Consensus before making again such changes. Thanks and regards,Spinner145 (talk) 03:15, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Chinese View: I appreciate your hard working, but the PRC government representing the whole China, including Taiwan, is recoganized by United Nations, right? Why don't you use the legal documents from UN in stead of the information without any leagal support? In my view, you have your own peronal views on China internal issues, therefore you selected the information, which you prefer, and published them in the public website.

For the CIA involvement in Chinese Tibet, I did give the link as the source of my information. Unfortunately, this link was deleted by SB. Many people in the world condemn Chinese cencorship, but I don't see here the people make a better job than Chinese government. It's really disappointing. Anyway, I can tell you, Western medias have lost the trust to Chinese, they can't make any influence to the who country. Wiki is the last choice, but you lost again. AlexBlues (talk) 16:42, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

The naming conventions on Chinese names the page I linked are the consensus views of wiki editors, not my own (look at that page's history and you'll see that I did not contribute to it). It is not cherry-picking to say that on Wikipedia we follow Wikipedia guidelines in our editing. If you can find evidence within the guidelines that I am wrong please let me know, and if you think the guidelines themselves are wrong, all wikipedia editors are welcome to suggest improvements and try to reach a consensus to change those guidelines.

I read the link you gave and as I said, it showed that an author had published a book claiming that almost sixty years ago a single CIA operative spent a year in Tibet. Even if everything claimed in the desciprtion of that book is true, it is not sufficient to support your allegation that the Tibetan indepence movement is a CIA puppet organization.

If you are willing to follow guidelines it would be great if you stay around because wiki can only be improved by people with diverse viewpoints contributing. Cheers,Spinner145 (talk) 03:07, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Internet censorship for journalists about-face

Is this about-face on censorship of the Internet for journalists in Beijing mentioned anywhere at Wikipedia? I can't even find a mention of the Internet in this article. Badagnani (talk) 17:06, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

It has become a widely covered subject; another article here. Badagnani (talk) 16:48, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

About Hymalaya

Hi, I don't know how to reply you to make the explaination. So I give you my answer in discussion board and hope you can see this.

Hymalaya is the true Tibetan name for the Mountain. Everest is the name from a British people. I think it's weird to use a British name here for a Tibetan Mt.. Since so many people concern the human rights here about the Tibetan people, why shouldn't we use the original Tibetan name here in stead of the British name to show the rights of Tibetans?AlexBlues (talk) 14:38, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

The English Wikipedia uses the common name for things in the English language. Bluap (talk) 20:45, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Also, in English, Himalaya refers to the entire range of Mountains, while Everest only refers to one peak. Schoop (talk) 18:51, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Nothing about the other side? Think about how they managed to get Olympics to the CENTER of Beijing!

Leveling living quarters with bulldozer armies, people forcibly (and no, that is not comparable to the Western definition of "force") pushed to live in the suburbs of Beijing from now on, since the space of several square miles was needed for the Olympic buildings. Absolutely nothing in the article about it. OR Chinese people have thought this is an offense and have removed these bits from the article. I would not be too surprised! -andy 78.51.89.247 (talk) 14:42, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

See: Concerns over the 2008 Summer Olympics -- Scorpion⁰⁴²² 14:51, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Wo... You sure care more about Chinese than us Chinese... Please, take care of yourself first and we will take care of ourselves. 24.224.182.97 (talk) 21:07, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Olympic promises?

This should not be the final set of sources about olympic promises, but there were promises made regarding the Olympics: http://www.ihlo.org/prisoners/en/ I suggest things about this are added to controversies, as they are important enough imo. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.159.73.156 (talk) 23:02, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

See Concerns over the 2008 Summer Olympics.--Huaiwei (talk) 05:43, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

See: 2008 Summer Olympics bids#China.27s Olympic Bid Promises BillyTFried (talk) 08:53, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Calendar

What is the difference between blue bullets and red bullets in the calendar? Moondyne 23:53, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

They are wikilinks, red bullets are redlinks for articles not yet created. — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 23:56, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

I feel stupid. Sorry. Moondyne 01:28, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

No worries! It's not really obvious, unfortunately — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 04:01, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

At one point I was inclined to make the bullets different colors for men, women, and mixed events, but figured it doesn't really make that much more sense, and overcomplicated the table. Jared (t)  04:31, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Broadcasting in Mexico

Televisa and TV Azteca share the rights to host the games. They will both broadcast them in Mexico. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.11.173.101 (talk) 20:15, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

Yes, but which channels will broadcast the games in HD. I think that TV Azteca 13, and TV Azteca 7, will broadcast in HD, since for at least a week the shows that used to be shown in HD are now being shown in Stretch-o-Vision also the Football games are being shown in Stretch-o-Vision. The only shows that are now shown in HD are the News, and One Telenovela. Also does anyone know which Televisa Channels are showing the Games in HD. Is it XEW Also known as Canal De Las Estrellas, XHGC also Known As Canal Cinco, or is it both. Joeloliv8 04:25, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

World Mindsports Games

Could someone please add the 2008 Beijing World Mindsports Games following the Paralympics in the See also section? http://www.2008wmsg.org and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Mind_Sports_Games. As a beginning user I don't have the authority to do so myself. Thank you in advance, Verycurious77 (talk) 11:18, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

It's not organized by the IOC but by the International Mind Sports Association (IMSA) so I don't think the event needs to be included in the article. Just my two cents. Xeltran (talk) 12:02, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

Not organized by IOC no. But IOC president Jacques Rogge is president of the committee of honour and GAISF president Hein Verbruggen is a member of that committee as well. The WMSG begin in Beijing just after the Paralympics have ended. The WMSG are being held in the Olympic Green Complex where the 3.000 players are staying as well. Chess and Bridge are IOC recognized mindsports, Draughts has just applied for IOC Recognition. It is the intention to organize the WMSG - maybe on the long run Intellympics - every four years together with the Olympics and Paralympics. So Beijing is likely to be the start of a new trilogy: Olympics, Parlympics and Intellympics. Two Chinese commercials voor the WMSG: http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/QgH0vz_5GAA/ http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/5BrtMB_YFDw/ I'd like to think that al this justifies a modest reference under 'See also'. I very much hope the authorized Wikipedians can agree on this. 84.86.103.21 (talk) 16:52, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

I'll let the others decide on this matter, too, before adding. :) Xeltran (talk) 11:02, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Order

Ordered by stroke count. This might be slightly different from the official order.

Rank	Simplified Chinese	English
1	希腊	Greece
2	几内亚	Guinea
3	几内亚比绍	Guinea-Bissau
4	土耳其	Turkey
5	土库曼斯坦	Turkmenistan
6	也门	Yemen
7	马尔代夫	Maldives
8	马耳他	Malta
9	马达加斯加	Madagascar
10	马来西亚	Malaysia
11	马里	Mali
12	马拉维	Malawi
13	马其顿	FYR Macedonia
14	马绍尔群岛	Marshall Islands
15	开曼群岛	Cayman Islands
16	不丹	Bhutan
17	厄瓜多尔	Ecuador
18	厄立特里亚	Eritrea
19	牙买加	Jamaica
20	比利时	Belgium
21	瓦努阿图	Vanuatu
22	日本	Japan
23	中华台北	Chinese Taipei
24	中非共和国	Central African Republic
25	中国香港	Hong Kong, China
26	冈比亚	Gambia
27	贝宁	Benin
28	毛里求斯	Mauritius
29	毛里塔尼亚	Mauritania
30	丹麦	Denmark
31	乌干达	Uganda
32	乌克兰	Ukraine
33	乌拉圭	Uruguay
34	乌兹别克斯坦	Uzbekistan
35	文莱	Brunei
36	巴巴多斯	Barbados
37	巴布亚新几内亚	Papua New Guinea
38	巴西	Brazil
39	巴拉圭	Paraguay
40	巴林	Bahrain
41	巴哈马	Bahamas
42	巴拿马	Panama
43	巴基斯坦	Pakistan
44	巴勒斯坦	Palestine
45	以色列	Israel
46	古巴	Cuba
47	布基纳法索	Burkina Faso
48	布隆迪	Burundi
49	东帝汶	Timor-Leste
50	卡塔尔	Qatar
51	卢旺达	Rwanda
52	卢森堡	Luxembourg
53	乍得	Chad
54	白俄罗斯	Belarus
55	印度	India
56	印度尼西亚	Indonesia
57	立陶宛	Lithuania
58	尼日尔	Niger
59	尼日利亚	Nigeria
60	尼加拉瓜	Nicaragua
61	尼泊尔	Nepal
62	加纳	Ghana
63	加拿大	Canada
64	加蓬	Gabon
65	圣马力诺	San Marino
66	圣文森特和格林纳丁斯	Saint Vincent and the Grenadines
67	圣卢西亚	Saint Lucia
68	圣多美和普林西比	São Tomé and Príncipe
69	圣基茨和尼维斯	Saint Kitts and Nevis
70	圭亚那	Guyana
71	吉布提	Djibouti
72	吉尔吉斯斯坦	Kyrgyzstan
73	老挝	Laos
74	亚美尼亚	Armenia
75	西班牙	Spain
76	百慕大	Bermuda
77	列支敦士登	Liechtenstein
78	刚果（布）	Congo
79	刚果（金）	DR Congo
80	伊拉克	Iraq
81	伊朗	Iran
82	危地马拉	Guatemala
83	匈牙利	Hungary
84	多米尼加共和国	Dominican Republic
85	多米尼克	Dominica
86	多哥	Togo
87	冰岛	Iceland
88	关岛	Guam
89	汤加	Tonga
90	安哥拉	Angola
91	安提瓜和巴布达	Antigua and Barbuda
92	安道尔	Andorra
93	约旦	Jordan
94	赤道几内亚	Equatorial Guinea
95	芬兰	Finland
96	克罗地亚	Croatia
97	苏丹	Sudan
98	苏里南	Suriname
99	利比亚	Libya
100	利比里亚	Liberia
101	伯利兹	Belize
102	佛得角	Cape Verde
103	库克群岛	Cook Islands
104	沙特阿拉伯	Saudi Arabia
105	阿尔及利亚	Algeria
106	阿尔巴尼亚	Albania
107	阿拉伯联合酋长国	United Arab Emirates
108	阿根廷	Argentina
109	阿曼	Oman
110	阿鲁巴	Aruba
111	阿富汗	Afghanistan
112	阿塞拜疆	Azerbaijan
113	纳米比亚	Namibia
114	坦桑尼亚	Tanzania
115	拉脱维亚	Latvia
116	英国	Great Britain
117	英属维尔京群岛	British Virgin Islands
118	肯尼亚	Kenya
119	罗马尼亚	Romania
120	帕劳	Palau
121	图瓦卢	Tuvalu
122	委内瑞拉	Venezuela
123	所罗门群岛	Solomon Islands
124	法国	France
125	波兰	Poland
126	波多黎各	Puerto Rico
127	波斯尼亚和黑塞哥维那	Bosnia and Herzegovina
128	孟加拉国	Bangladesh
129	玻利维亚	Bolivia
130	挪威	Norway
131	南非	South Africa
132	柬埔寨	Cambodia
133	哈萨克斯坦	Kazakhstan
134	科威特	Kuwait
135	科特迪瓦	Côte d'Ivoire
136	科摩罗	Comoros
137	保加利亚	Bulgaria
138	俄罗斯	Russia
139	叙利亚	Syria
140	美国	United States
141	美属萨摩亚	American Samoa
142	美属维尔京群岛	Virgin Islands
143	洪都拉斯	Honduras
144	津巴布韦	Zimbabwe
145	突尼斯	Tunisia
146	泰国	Thailand
147	埃及	Egypt
148	埃塞俄比亚	Ethiopia
149	莱索托	Lesotho
150	莫桑比克	Mozambique
151	荷兰	Netherlands
152	荷属安的列斯群岛	Netherlands Antilles
153	格林纳达	Grenada
154	格鲁吉亚	Georgia
155	索马里	Somalia
156	哥伦比亚	Colombia
157	哥斯达黎加	Costa Rica
158	特里尼达和多巴哥	Trinidad and Tobago
159	秘鲁	Peru
160	爱尔兰	Ireland
161	爱沙尼亚	Estonia
162	海地	Haiti
163	捷克	Czech Republic
164	基里巴斯	Kiribati
165	菲律宾	Philippines
166	萨尔瓦多	El Salvador
167	萨摩亚	Samoa
168	密克罗尼西亚联邦	FS Micronesia
169	塔吉克斯坦	Tajikistan
170	越南	Vietnam
171	博茨瓦纳	Botswana
172	斯里兰卡	Sri Lanka
173	斯威士兰	Swaziland
174	斯洛文尼亚	Slovenia
175	斯洛伐克	Slovakia
176	葡萄牙	Portugal
177	韩国	South Korea
178	朝鲜	North Korea
179	斐济	Fiji
180	喀麦隆	Cameroon
181	黑山	Montenegro
182	智利	Chile
183	奥地利	Austria
184	缅甸	Myanmar
185	瑞士	Switzerland
186	瑞典	Sweden
187	瑙鲁	Nauru
188	蒙古	Mongolia
189	新加坡	Singapore
190	新西兰	New Zealand
191	意大利	Italy
192	塞内加尔	Senegal
193	塞尔维亚	Serbia
194	塞舌尔	Seychelles
195	塞拉利昂	Sierra Leone
196	塞浦路斯	Cyprus
197	墨西哥	Mexico
198	黎巴嫩	Lebanon
199	德国	Germany
200	摩尔多瓦	Moldova
201	摩纳哥	Monaco
202	摩洛哥	Morocco
203	澳大利亚	Australia
204	赞比亚	Zambia
205	中国	China

Python eggs (talk) 12:15, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

Yes, it's already been posted at 2008 Summer Olympics national flag bearers. Thanks for the heads up. Xeltran (talk) 12:27, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

I can't find a complete list, so I made the above myself. Python eggs (talk) 13:13, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

Oh, no. I wasn't meaning to say that since there's already a list, you don't need to make one, if that was what you were thinking. Thanks again. Xeltran (talk) 13:44, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

==Nonsense== What is this nonsense in the first sentence about the "Paralympics"? That has nothing to do with the Olympics, and even if it did, it wouldn't belong in the first paragraph, much less the first sentence. Can somebody please either delete it or relegate it to a small mention way down in the article? Seriously, folks. . .a pro-handicap agenda? That's what we're going to do at Wikipedia now? Give me a break. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.163.0.43 (talk) 14:56, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Broadcasting in Spain

The public Spanish network TVE has a High Definition channel TVE-HD which can be tuned in the Digital+ pay package. I can't edit the broadcaster box. Please somebody add this.