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Olympic gold medalists
I can't seem to edit the page even though I am logged in. How do I do it? I would like to ad that he is number 13 on the list of Olympic gold medalists could someone do it for me? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Clmw (talk • contribs) 15:07, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
(AR)
In the table section detailing his achievements the term (AR) is used, what does it mean? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.19.140.208 (talk) 06:38, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
American Record, right? I'll add a key below the tables. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.19.140.208 (talk) 06:42, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
The Phelpeedo!!
Not sure who took my nickname for Phelps off his page but - The Phelpeedo - needs to be put back up! Please and Thank You! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Laylen (talk • contribs) 18:44, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
- Do you have a reliable source for that? JGHowes talk - 18:55, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
Well, now that you put me on the spot...I have to admit, we (myself and a couple friends) are accomplished nicknamers! And I think "The Phelpeedo" is right up there with the best of we've come up with. I am sad to say I am not at the Olympics this year...but if I were you could bet I'd be representing with a sign for The Phelpeedo! Laylen (talk) 18:24, 9 August 2008 (UTC)Laylen
- Personal research, anecdotes, opinions, etc don't belong in Wikipedia. Sorry WildWikiGuy (talk) 17:25, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
Dude, Phelps himself would approve of that nickname if he wasn't so busy winning gold! I know this because he is wearing a Speedo. Granted "The Phelpeedo" is actually comparing Phelps with a torpedo...I am pretty sure others would see the suttle brand placement as well! +++ Mad endorsement! 210.206.191.75 (talk · contribs) 14:06, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
- Too recently done and far better matched was Thorpedo for this to catch on in my opinion...
- In any case, unless it's something that gets covered in multiple reliable sources, it's not going to belong in the article. --Onorem♠Dil 14:42, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
I am absolutely ashamed that people are not generally aware of "The Phelpeedo" nickname. To think we even call this a page dedicated to Michael Phelps! 131.10.254.61 (talk · contribs) 14:37, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
- Look, right now the nickname is WP:OR, becuase it has no sources. Also, a quick gooogle search provides one result. RC-0722 361.0/1 14:45, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
- Wikipedia is not a blog or the place to coin a new nickname. It is an encyclopedia of previously published material only. That is, if this nickname were stated in Time magazine or Sports Illustrated, for example, then and only then could it be included in Wikipedia. JGHowes talk - 15:45, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
Fred Phelps (father)
I've added a short note to the article stating that Michael Phelps' father, Fred Phelps, is not related to the hate-monger from Kansas who protests against gays and at the funerals of service members. Fred Phelps of KANSAS is such a reviled figure that I thought it important to clarify that we are not talking about the same person. Michaelh2001 (talk) 18:01, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
ADHD
There's an interesting article in today's NY Times about Phelps' ADHD issues in school, etc. 72.192.143.30 (talk) 07:30, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
200 Free Record Time
According to nbc (website and broadcast) the time is 1:42.96, not 1:42.93 as listed under "currently held records", "world records" below it is correct. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.69.97.27 (talk) 02:47, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
4 X 100 freestyle relay
In the "2008 Beijing Summer Olympic Games" section of this article is the statement, "Phelps swam the 1st leg of the men's 4x100m freestyle relay in a time of 47.51 seconds (an American record for the 100m freestyle)..." This is repeated in the Currently Held Records table and Best Times and All-Time Event Rankings table. But how could this be an American record when teammates Jason Lezak and Garrett Weber-Gale had times of 46:06 and 47:02, respectively? Information on both the Swimming at the 2008 Summer Olympics - Men's 4 x 100 metre freestyle relay and Jason Lezak pages seem to contradict this statement. I think the answer to my question might be that only the first leg of the relay counts as a record. Is that the correct explanation, or is there an error on these pages? Redhookesb (talk) 06:30, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
- Yeah, only the first legs of relays can be counted for records in their corresponding individual events because the later guys are not doing a stationary start, whereas the first guy is doing it in a stationary start as they would in a normal individual race. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 08:09, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
Body shape
Phelps's body shape is contributing to his success: long arm reach, and a proportionally large upper body. This could be mentioned in the article. Another olympic recordholder Pieter van den Hoogenband has a similar build. --VanBurenen (talk) 07:01, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
- Find a source that also says that and it should be no problem. Jauerbackdude?/dude. 14:48, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
- A picture of Phelps at a poolside would already be helpful. Maybe take a picture when they show him on TV. There should be plenty of opportunities. --VanBurenen (talk) 15:09, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
- Not quite. That doesn't demonstrate why his body shape contributes to his success nor does it constitute as a reliable source, and would probably be a copyright violation to boot. Jauerbackdude?/dude. 15:59, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
- http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gFplrVkFHMmZVeqU2EsPWGSytXNgD92GR8RG3 ("his body — perfectly suited for swimming with its long torso, large wingspan and big, flexible feet — re-emerged from the water.") 65.216.235.42 (talk) 20:00, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
- A picture of Phelps at a poolside would already be helpful. Maybe take a picture when they show him on TV. There should be plenty of opportunities. --VanBurenen (talk) 15:09, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
All-time Olympic Games individual medal count
We have All-time Olympic Games medal count. Given all the talk about Michael Phelps tying others in individual medal count, any chance in someone creating the article all-time Olympic Games individual medal count? Suntag (talk) 08:03, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
- See Olympic Games#All-time Olympic Games individual medal count. Suntag (talk) 08:16, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
- I added the gold medal count info to the Michael Phelps article. Suntag (talk) 08:27, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
Slightly Incorrect Date for 4x4 100M Relay
Under the section "2008 Beijing Summer Olympic Games" the final sentence of the 3rd paragraph reads "The top five teams in the final finished ahead of the world record of 3:12.23 set earlier in the day by the American B team in a preliminary heat."
Though it may be correct in some areas of the world, in the location of the event - China - the preliminary heat was ran the previous day. In Beijing all of the preliminary heats for swimming are scheduled for the evening sessions with the finals sessions being held the following morning. While it appears to be the same day for people who may live in the states, official record should show those races were actually held the previous day. Therefore instead of saying "earlier in the day," it would be more accurate to say "the previous evening" or even "15 1/2 hours earlier" for emphasis on the relatively short length of time between the two swims.
Here is a link to an article that references the local times of the swimming heats/finals.
http://swimming.about.com/od/olympicswimming/qt/oly08swimevents.htm
Brett —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bcvaldez (talk • contribs) 19:04, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
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