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Incorrect HDB Count

Kobayashi had 53 3/4 HDB's in the '06 competition not 54 and Rich LaFevre (not sure if i spelled that right) is listed as having eaten 27.76 hot dogs for another competition, which i assume is just a typo. Besides, last i knew, the dogs were only measured to the 1/8.

Not the first Eat off

During the 2008 broadcast, they claimed it was the first tie during regulation, and resulting "eat-off." Note that according to the NYT articles, there was a tie in 1980, with an eat off, but they still tied after that. More than likely, there's been little research and little knowledge of the history, so it was merely a mistake of reporting. Doctorindy (talk) 17:05, 4 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Runner ups?

Can someone put the actually runner ups instead of just the flag and how many they ate? It seems kind of pointless to list a flag as second place, especially since everyone is American besides Kobayashi? This page is a sham until that change in my opinion —Preceding unsigned comment added by Iosimcash (talk • contribs) 16:39, 4 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]



1996

This article had "Little Jim Norton" listed as the 1996 winner. This is the nickname of Jimmy Norton for the Opie and Anthony show. Edward Krachie won in 1996.

http://www.cnn.com/EVENTS/1996/4july/stories/hotdog.contest/index.html

Additional research

A look through some New York Times back issues brought very little additional information. The 1979 event was held as scheduled on July 4th, but it was hardly attended it says because of rain, ongoing clean-up problems at Coney Island, and because of gas shortages. After all that, however, it didn't list who won. The NYT's of 1976 and 1977 also do not specify the winner's name, but they report it was held. Doctorindy 17:40, 2 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

http://www.cnn.com/EVENTS/1996/4july/stories/hotdog.contest/index.html This link indicates the contest was not held in 1939, 1940, or 1941. however, that would not parallel what the NYT article stated about 1986 (being the 70th contest) and 1991 (being the 75th contest). Only one year could have been skipped if those reports are correct. The Nathan's Famous Fourth of July Hot Dog-Eating Contest has been held each year since Nathan's opened in 1916, except in 1939, 1940 and 1941, when it was canceled to protest the war in Europe.

london

There are no references to any "national hotdog championships" in london (wimpy or otherwise) outside of Wikipedia and its mirrors, nor to a former champion being nicknamed "the Cleveland Steamer" (which is a slang term for an obscure sexual practice). Almost all of this page appears to be an entirely fabricated practical joke. Wikipedia's standards of scholarship win again!

Wimpies is in the Guiness book of world records. Not everything is online. cleveland steamer is a joke

Pratical joke? I do not understand this. This year's telecast - live on ESPN drew more viewers then its hockey broacasts. The show was just rerun this weekend (10/28/06) on ESPN2. This stuff is for real. I have been to the last two contests. see www.ifoce.com


Chart

Man, that chart is hideous, there's got to be a better way to do it.

  • I did a major overhaul of the table, replaced the country abbreviations with flag icons, moved the notes into the notes column (where they belong), fixed the empty cells with a space holder, and overall cleaned it up. It should be easy to follow for future additions. Doctorindy 03:13, 8 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • I have a question about the notes section. It claims Takeru Kobayashi set a world record in 2005, despite eating less than in 2004. Seems dubious to me. Am I missing something? Caiyern 17:38, 22 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The weight of hot dogs?

Do you know the actual weight of a hot dog and a bun? This is very important.

http://www.polizeros.com/2004/07/06.html

Takeru Kobayashi ... weighs 132 lbs.
... Let's assume the 2 oz. Nathan's hot dogs are used, and that the rolls ... are also 2 oz. So, 4 oz. x 53 1/2 = 13.5 pounds of food.
He ate 10% of his body weight in twelve minutes.

-- Toytoy 18:28, Aug 12, 2004 (UTC)

Each hot dog is 100 grams according to Nathan's Famous: http://nathansfamous.com/nathans/inside/htmls/nutrition_nathans.pdf -- [[User:KenBeer|KenBeer] Aug 13, 2004

Data source: USDA Food Nutrient Database 16-1, serving size: 100 g.

 
Nathan'sgeneric beef franksOscar Mayer beef franksHomel Wrangler beef franksroast beef sandwichplain hamburger + 1 pattyplain hamburger + 2 pattiesplain rolls43g plain roll + 57 g generic beef franks
Fat (g)20.1429.5730.2625.699.913.1315.854.3318.72
Carbs (g)22.674.062.352.1124.0633.9024.3949.4523.58
Protein (g)10.6111.2411.3512.5615.4713.6917.004.338.27

Does it look like hot dog + bun? Or is the bun not included? Nathan's 100 g serving contains much more carbohydrates than other products. I guess it means a bun is included. My simulated hot dog + bun is very similar to Nathan's. A standard USDA 5" long by 7/8" diameter frankfurter weighs 57 g (8 per lb). A standard USDA roll is 43 g.

-- Toytoy 00:02, Aug 14, 2004 (UTC)

I remember I have seen a full list of winners on the Nathan's website last year. But I don't see it now. There are websites that store past webpages (search engines, and some "Time Machine" servere). I guess somewhere out there someone might have a list of all past winners.

Who knows the measurements (length and weight) of a Nathan's dog? And also the bun?

I think it will be fun to describe each contestant's way to eat the dogs. -- Toytoy

"George Shea" has been mentioned twice in the article. Who's he ? Jay 12:32, 11 Jul 2004 (UTC)

head of the IFOCE and shea communications (PR firm for nathan's contest)


Unusual article?

Should this perhaps be listed on Unusual_Articles? -Cookiemobsta 19:54, 16 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Jim Mullin

Anyone know where in Ireland Jim was from, or indeed any of his biographical details? Thanks in advance, Fergananim

1939 WWII Contest cancellation

Why would a July 4, 1939 contest be cancelled due to a war starting in September 1939?

--Ojrifkin 05:25, 23 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Kobayashi's nickname

On this article, Takeru Kobayashi's nickname has been given variously as "The Prince" and "Tsunami", the latter being the only nickname given on the Takeru Kobayashi arcticle. Is there any evidence given to Kobayashi having the nickname "the Prince"?


Archive

I've archived the bottom list of past performances in order to clean them up a bit...all the old info will still be here until it's done. Doctorindy 16:11, 27 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Top contestants (20 HDBs or more in 12 minutes)

30 hot dogs or more ("The Tre")

25 hot dogs or more

  • Keiji Oguni (Isezaki-shi, Gunma-ken, Japan) - 29 (#4 2005), 19 (2005 Tokyo, Japan Qualifier)
  • Hall Hunt - 28.75 (#1 2007 Charlotte, NC Qualifier)
  • Patrick "Pat From Moonachie" Philbin (Moonachie, NJ USA) - 27 (#1 2007 Molly Pitcher qualifier.) 26.5 (#1(tie, lost in runoff) 2007 Shea Stadium Qualifier) 25 (#2 2006 East Hartford Qualifier), 24 (#4 2006 Philadelphia Qualifier)
  • Erik Denmark - 26.5 (#1(tie, won in runoff) 2007 Shea Stadium Qualifier)
  • Danielle Fishel - 26 (#2 June 9, 2006 Hollywood, CA Qualifier)
  • Juliet Lee 26 (#1 2007 Norfork, VA Qualifier)
  • Oleg "The Great Z" Zhornitskiy (Brooklyn, USA) - 25.5 (#3/20 2002), 19 (June 26 2004? Long Island NY Qualifier)
  • Allen Goldstein - 25.5 (#2 2007 Shea Stadium Qualifier)
  • Tim Brown 25 (#3 2007 Tempe AZ Qualifier)
  • Carlene "Madame of Etiquette" LeFevre (Henderson, NV USA) - 25 (#7 2005), 23 (#1 June 25, 2005 Atlanta Qualifier, 22 (#6? 2004)
  • "Big" Brian Subich, (Johnstown, PA USA) - 25 (May 27th, 2006 Philadelphia PA Qualifier)

20 hot dogs or more ("The Deuce")

Notability

Just for informational purposes, Wikipedia:Notability should be reviewed because many of the winners/competitors have been "red linked" and there is very little reason to create a page for them, or suggest that it be done. Most of the winners prior to the past few years are simply normal people and are not recognized "competetive eaters."

Health Effects

Shouldn't this article include a section on the negative health effects of competitive eating, or other controversies? Ogeez 20:28, 6 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Do they barf afterwards?

Is it common for contestants to regurgitate the food after the competition? It seems they are in some serious distress afterwards. It was very surprising that Chestnut was able to give an interview after eating 66 hot dogs.

Some of them certainly do, some of them go and eat another meal afterwards... 70.51.9.28 (talk) 12:15, 5 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Babe Ruth

there's a note about Babe Ruth competing, but not source. is this a joke? Murderbike 21:36, 21 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • It wasn't not my edit, but there is documented evidence that Babe Ruth and Lou Gehrig often had eating contests in the locker room. But I have never seen any sources indicate that Babe Ruth officially competed in the Nathan's contest. FearNotMan 15:47, 22 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  1. ^ http://www.kxmc.com/News/135183.asp
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