Talk:Jane Addams

McDuff Movement

Exactly what is the "McDuff" movement? I suspect someone is making this stuff up. My searches have revealed no source at all supporting the existence of a McDuff movement. 75.70.31.151 (talk) 18:59, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Hull House

There are big inconsistancies in this article about Hull House. It was not founded in 1903, and not with the partner refered to in that part of the thing.... yeah.

Laura?

Suggestion for re-write: Wikipedia:List of encyclopedia topics/Biographies A indicates that Jane Addams had a nickname, "Laura". No mention of this is made in the article. Kevyn 08:02, 9 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Laura is not a nickname. It was her full first name: Laura Jane Addams. Reference Hassencahl, Fran. “Jane Addams.” Women Public Speakers in the United States, 1800-1925: A Biocritical Sourcebook. Karlyn Kohrs Campbell (ed.). Westport, CT; London: Greenwood Press, 1993. p. 1. TychaBrahe 15:12, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

LGBT

I posted that she was a lesbian. Considering that she and Gates shared the only double bed at Hull House, I'd say it was either true or a remarkable act.

lol I've shared a bed with guys before that doesn't make us gay.

In addition, she was strongly encouraged by her stepmother to marry her stepbrother, George Haldeman. Her older stepbrother, Harry, had married one of her older sister's, Alice. Jane's refusing George angered her stepmother a great deal, and Jane loved her stepmother and would have done quite a bit to make her happy. And yet she never did this, despite her friendship with George.

Gosh what girl wouldn't want to marry her step brother?

I refer you to Davis, Allen Freeman. American Heroine: The Life and Legend of Jane Addams. New York: Oxford University Press, 1973. p. 5; Meigs, Cornelia. Jane Addams: Pioneer for Social Justice. Boston: Little, Brown and Company, 1970. p. 34; and Murphy, Marilyn. “Would Knowing This Have Made a Difference?” Are You Girls Traveling Alone? Los Angeles: Clothespin Fever Press, 1991. p. 47. TychaBrahe 15:12, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Allow me to refer you to any book by David Ikes.

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Alright, maybe I'm just missing something, but after a quick skim I don't see anything in this article to qualify it being in the "Gay, lesbian or bisexual people" category.

Well, since I havn't gotten a response, I'll take that out for now, and if anyone wants to put it back in, please say why. Thanks! :)

Here's a response: A recent (2006) biography by Gioia Diliberto makes the point that Addams was sustained by her deep emotional attachments to other women, especially Mary Rozet Smith, with whom Addams lived in what she called a "marriage" for more than 30 years. They traveled the country together, considered themselves married to each other and insisted on a double bed for themselves wherever they went.

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Just removed this from the "publications" section of biog:

Jane addams was a homo i'm scared of homos

Not sure who posted or when. I'm a light wiki user but this disgusts me. Thanks

Krguest 20:23, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Why does everyone have to be homosexual nowadays? When you go to college, you share a bedroom with someone of the same gender. Does that make you homosexual? A hundred years ago, people were just more comfortable with their sexuality.

Perhaps I should apply to your college - seems to be the only place where you sign up to share a bed! Everyone doesn't have to be 'homosexual nowadays'. But homosexual people have a right to be visible, rather than hidden away for the sake of embarrassment. And I doubt very much that anyone in Victorian america was 'comfortable with their sexuality'. They were fairly repressed times at all levels, and for types of sexual persuasion! Contaldo80 (talk) 12:51, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Recently a contributor has removed any references in the article to Adams's relationship with Rozet. I don't care either way whether the article includes this information. But I do want to make sure due process is followed. In support of the textual insertion a verifiable source has been quoted; and supporting evidence presented. If someone wants to add an additional source refuting the claim, then they are welcome to do so. But to remove text and references without citing justification is simply pushing a POV agenda. Please can we keep this evidence-based. Contaldo80 (talk) 12:00, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Someone has now reverted article texts 3 times. However, despite offering to engage in constructive debate - we have ended up in a position close to vandalism or wiki-warring. It is not sufficient to argue that calling 'Malcolm X a white woman makes it true'. I simply have made a contribution based on mainstream academic evidence and quoted sources. If someone has evidence to the contrary then they should absolutely use it to improve and amend the article. The absence of this is highly unconstructive. We cannot take bits out of article that we don't personally like without supporting evidence. Contaldo80 (talk) 14:36, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

AKA?

Seeing that she was 48 when AKA was formed and is white...why is she considered an AKA sister? Please remove. User:VarunRajendran

is that whole first cousin twice removed of a famous cartoonist for the new yorker bit a bit too random and useless?, but that's just me

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Jane Addams helped found the NAACP. You don't have to be Black to believe that Black's deserve equal treatment. Just a reminder that the Civil Rights Memorial contains names like the Rev James Reeb, Michael Schwerner, and Andrew Goodman.

In any case, AKA's own Web site lists her as an honorary sister: http://www.aka1908.com/present/membership/ TychaBrahe 15:13, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

(Moved from the article)

(by Tpmlax13, added to the main article several times over the last few days)

The Wikipedia article on Progressivism states that “Progressivism historically advocates the advancement of workers rights and social justice.” However in this article on Progressivism the only mention of women is in regards to Women’s suffrage, which was accomplished with the inclusion of the Nineteenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. Beyond this mention the reader would believe that men and women in America experienced the same treatment in the economic, political and social arenas during the late Nineteenth Century and the early Twentieth Century. However, this is quite a misconception for both White women and Black women who faced hurdles in all areas of life that must not be ignored or minimized. Women endured hardships and struggled to be heard throughout the Progressive era in America. It is also unfair to generalize or assume that all women had the same experiences. White working class women inhabited a landscape quite different from that of women from the middle and upper classes. Also, Black women and immigrant women encountered obstacles that were unique to their situation. Wikipedia, rather than glossing over the plight of women during the Progressive era should peruse the historical documents and works that pertain to women and attempt to comprehend the various economic, racial and social disparities that affected the experience of women during the Progressive era.

The Wikipedia writers should read My Antonia by Willa Cather to fully grasp the point of view of poor immigrant women who find themselves in a strange new country with language barriers to boot. The hardships and bigotry that these women overcame must be read to be believed. Also, Unbound Feet by Yung depicted the harrowing experiences of Chinese women who arrive in America basically as slaves. As late as 1880 twenty one to fifty percent of Chinese women worked as prostitutes in America. This was quite an auspicious introduction to America for these unfortunate women. Other women and girls worked as domestic servants. How did the Progressive era affect these women?

Gender and Jim Crow by Gilmore delved into the lives of Black women in North Carolina after the Civil War and into the Progressive era. If any of the Wikipedia writers read this book they would be horrified at the lack of freedom for Blacks even after the Civil War. A new rabid type of racism in the South embraced lynchings and other types of sordid punishments. The white Best Man were determined to maintain order and proper decorum by subjugating the Blacks to their genetically inferior levels of humanity. Imagine the hurdles that Black Women living in North Caroline must have endured. The White suffragists while pushing for the right for women to vote were forced to compromise with the racial governments in order to gain some type of victory. The experience of Black Women during Progressive era was harrowing and unique.

Even before the push for women’s suffrage were the working issues surrounding women. In Out to Work by Kessler Harris, she examines the struggle that working class women endured to acquire higher pay and better jobs. For decades women performed the most menial jobs and were seen as competition for the men. Women had some success in joining unions but more often than not advancement was limited. The social dictate that a woman belonged in the home was a very powerful weapon against women in the workplace. Also, Dubois’ work, “Working women Class Relations and Suffrage militance:” explored the conflicts among the various social and economic classes of women in their drive for suffrage. Class struggle emerged and much compromise was required to present a unified front in the struggle for suffrage. These various classes of women all experienced the Progressive era from various vantage points in the struggle for not just suffrage, but for fair pay, improved working conditions, better jobs and the like. Wikipedia once again is not even scratching the surface by merely mentioning women’s suffrage. The struggles and contributions of women from all classes must be understood, recognized and applauded.

Not a bad essay, but better on the talk page, so I moved it. The article itself shouldn't address the Wikipedia writers, that's what the article talk page is for. --GRuban (talk) 20:26, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Peace Prize symbol

I saw it on another page but I don't remember which one. I don't think I worked on the page where I saw it but I remember they had a symbol for the person winning the Nobel prize. Can someone put one up for Jane Addams too please? Bolinda (talk)