User talk:Ronline

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Be Bold!

Sam [Spade] 14:26, 30 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Salut!

cred ca sunt in general bune modificarile tale privind economia romaneasca, dar sa stii ca romania a atras in 2004 5.1 miliarde € investitii straine (vezi linkul: http://www.bloombiz.ro/articol_53478.html -"Ocupam locul doi in zona la investitii straine

07 Oct 2005, 02:50 Romania a atras, in 2004, investitii straine directe (ISD) de 5,1 miliarde dolari, ocupand locul al doilea, dupa Federatia Rusa, in regiunea Europei de Sud-Est si a statelor membre ale Comunitatii Statelor Independente (CSI), dar devansand noi membri ai Uniunii Europene, precum Ungaria si Cehia." ) Salut si numai bine!

Eastern Europe

I don't understand your Eastern European music changes. Aside from making music of Eastern Europe factually inaccurate, why would you make this change? It is perfectly logical to talk about a Eastern European musical tradition while separating out the southeast is strange and not very useful for the reader. Tuf-Kat 15:55, Jan 29, 2005 (UTC)

Please discuss this change, or I will soon switch it back. Tuf-Kat 20:16, Jan 29, 2005 (UTC)

Your reasoning sounds fine to me. Thanks -- it would be best if you added a description to Eastern European music and Southeastern European music, however, so that readers know why these divisions are made. If you haven't seen it yet, you may want to check out Wikipedia:WikiProject World music. BTW, do you have an opinion on the link to Roma music in the SoutheasternEuropeanmusic box (or any other box)? I am unsure about that one. Tuf-Kat 01:20, Jan 30, 2005 (UTC)

I'm inclined to agree with you that it should be removed. Roma music may be closely linked with Romanian music, but it doesn't need to be in the box -- very few non-countries are in any of the boxes (the exceptions include a few dependent territories, the diverse and distant Central Asian provinces of Russia and China, and Garifuna music, each of which have pretty clear and inarguable reasons for the exception). Roma music is also an integral part of the music of Spain, but they're not part of that box either. I suppose my opinion is that, if Roma music in Romania and elsewhere in the region is so important, someone will eventually write Roma music in southeastern Europe or something similar, and then maybe that could be in the box. Roma music is kind of a crappy article, but ideally it should spend most of its time going into the hundreds of years of Roma musical development and the numerous widely-varying styles, so following the link to that article from music of Albania, for example, won't be very informative. Indeed, there's only a couple sentences. Indeed, apart from a brief, vague paragraph each on Romania and Greece, there's nothing about southeast European music in Roma music. I'm going to boldly remove it from the box, and I suppose if someone is attached to it, we can always discuss further. Tuf-Kat 02:26, Jan 30, 2005 (UTC)

Your great European Union per capita GDP map

Thanks for the new graphic! It neatly illustrates the table it goes with.

I wanted to ask you whether you based the map on the numbers that were in the table just before you added it, since an IP had just twiddled the figures. [1] If you did use the bad average, you might want to check that the map is still accurate. If you didn't use those numbers, then I'll just say thanks again for the lovely graphic! — Saxifrage | ☎ 15:08, Jan 30, 2005 (UTC)

The $US 23,905 figure comes from averaging the data in the table, which came from the IMF's "per-capita GDP PPP" link cited at the bottom of the table. But since you're right about the difficulty in ensuring the accuracy of population counts, the difference between the two numbers, especially for the purpose of a graphic, are probably negligible. — Saxifrage | ☎ 08:43, Feb 1, 2005 (UTC)

That figure isn't an average of the GDP, it's an average of the IMF's official numbers for the per capita GDP. These numbers are already appropriately weighted because they are the GDP of each country divided by its population. — Saxifrage | ☎ 00:57, Feb 3, 2005 (UTC)

Ah! Now I feel silly. I finally grasped your point when I read "its standard of living, if you like, has more statistical importance..." Feel free to change the total figure back to $24,817 and cite this converstation as consensus. And, of course, thanks again for the nifty map. — Saxifrage | ☎ 21:46, Feb 3, 2005 (UTC)

Northern, Western, Central Europe, etc

Have been away — but I think others have expressed similar opinions as mine rather well, and probably better than I would have: Concepts that in fact are fuzzy in English shouldn't be redefined by Wikipedia to appear less so than they really are.
Ruhrjung 00:05, Mar 5, 2005 (UTC)

Constantin Brâncuşi

Of the references you give, the first two are just mirrors of Wikipedia, and the third is from Romania, which still doesn't establish that this form of his name is used outside Romania.

Personally, I'm now equally comfortable with either form of his name, but until I learned Romanian I'd never seen it written as "Brâncuşi". Nor did I have any idea how it was correctly pronounced: I'd always heard it pronounced as an Italian would pronounce "Brancusi". And I'm from New York, not exactly a hick town. I'm willing to guess that outside of Romanian-speakers, that is almost universally how he is known. -- Jmabel | Talk 06:24, Mar 14, 2005 (UTC)

In any case, the article should be explicit that both spellings exist. -- Jmabel | Talk 06:35, Mar 14, 2005 (UTC)

Templates

Hi Ronline — what's with these templates that you've been creating? {{M2 link}}, {{M3 link}}, {{M4 link}} and {{M2 colour}}. Is something going to happen with them? What's the point in making a template that's just the Hex value of a colour? — Asbestos | Talk 12:32, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Bucharest, Bulgaria

Buna seara Ronline - put it down to tiredness. I sorted about 4000 geostubs over the course of a month; there was bound to be the odd error. So far, two people have spotted mistakes. Still too many mistakes and no excuse, but 2 in 4000 isn't too bad! Maybe I should check to see whether there are any articles about Sofia in the Romanian-geo-stubs! :) My apologies! Grutness|^hello? 12:10, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I hope you enjoyed your time in NZ! As to remembering the geography of your part of the world, I have a friend who was born in Hungary, and he's drummed into me which capital is which in that area (until I met him I always used to get Budapest and Bucharest mixed up!). Grutness|^hello?

12:37, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Great

Great to see you've created Tigrul Celtic at wikipedia-ro! CGorman 15:12, 13 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Timişoara

Bună Ronline! În primul rând mulţumesc pentru aprecierile legate de articolele despre iluzii optice. Informaţiile despre populaţia judeţului Timiş în general şi ale Timişorii în special sunt în conformitate cu datele furnizate de Institutul Naţional de Statistică - Direcţia Judeţeană de Statistică Timiş. Ele sunt menţionate şi în Pagini Aurii ediţia 2004-2005. Populaţia este mai mică, într-adevăr, decât cea din 2002, care la rândul ei e mai mică decât cea din 2004. Acest fapt se încadrează în tendinţa generală pe ţară de scădere uşoară a populaţiei (probabil datorită sporului natural negativ şi/sau emigrării). Bănuiesc că e bine să lăsăm în articolul despre Timişoara atât datele mai noi cât şi cele mai vechi pentru a se vedea tendinţa descendentă în populaţie şi densitate. Sper să mai colaborăm şi în continuare!

E OK că am scris în româneşte? Tavilis 14:17, 21 August 2005 (UTC)--[reply]

Võro

Hi Ronline, I have done at last some work we spoke about in Võro Wikipedia (templates etc). See Maailma maaq Eesti

Best regards Võrok

Vlachs of Serbia

You really do not need to tell me something about Romanians and Vlachs in Serbia, since I know about this issue much more than you. Your knowledge about nationality question in Serbia is obviously very poor and only sources you read about this are probably some Romanian nationalistic books. Here are some facts about Serbia:

In Serbia everybody is free to declare what ever nationality he choose in census (or not to declare anything if he want).
Vlachs in Timočka Krajina declare themselves in census as ethnic Vlachs and declare their language as Vlach language
Vlachs in Timočka Krajina do not consider themselves Romanians. They think about themselves to be a distinct nation, different from both, Serbs and Romanians
Serbia recognize them as such, since that is what they want

So, you actually accusing Serbia, because it recognizes one people who want to be recognized as such. This is ridiculous. If somebody do not declare himself as Romanian in census, he is not Romanian, end of story.

There are 2 things which can say who is a nation and who is not:

1.national consciousness
2.census results

Vlachs in Serbia do not have Romanian, but Vlach national consciousness and they do not declare themselves as Romanians, but as Vlachs. No matter how Vlachs of Serbia and Moldovans are culturally and linguistically similar to Romanians, they simply ARE NOT Romanians. They are not Romanians because of same reason why Austrians are not Germans or why Montenegrins are not Serbs or why Americans are not English, etc. I know that that Romanian nationalist propaganda claim that Moldovans and Vlachs of Serbia are Romanians, but that is only nationalistic POV, which have no connection with reality. The small nations like Vlachs of Serbia and Moldovans have right to exist no matter what Romanians think about this. User:PANONIAN

Just to answer some of your ridiculous statements from the article:

"Linguistically, the Serbian census provides an option for both Romanian and Vlach languages as mother tongues"

"for artificially-separating Romanians and Vlachs in the census, including through the proclamation of a distinct Vlach ethnicity and language"

Do you know how these two statements sound stupid and ridiculous? First of all, Serbian census DO NOT "provide options" and "separating peoples". Here are 3 simply questions from the Serbian census:

1. What is your nationality or ethnicity?
2. What is your mother tongue?
3. What is your religion?

You can answer here what ever you want, even that your nationality is Eskimo or Indian. First inform yourself about some things and then talk. Serbian statisticts only recognize what people declared in census by their free choice. Why Serbian statistics should possibly to count somebody who declared himself as Vlach together with somebody who declared himself as Romanian? User:PANONIAN

Another article connected with this information is Anti-Romanian discrimination, a disputed article. Olessi 18:55, 13 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

RfC against 86.105.71.34

Salut Ronline,

I'm putting together an RfC against anonymous user 86.105.71.34, who I think has engaged in several types of misconducts on Wikipedia, especially on Transylvania, Romania, Republic of Moldova, Romanian language. I'm writing to you because you attempted to solve one or more of those issues on the user's talk page. If you endorse this RfC, or have anything to add to the statement of dispute, please sign and share your comments at Wikipedia:Requests for comment/86.105.71.34. Thanks, IulianU 00:04, 2 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Ronline, I see you withdrew your support for this. Would you please take a look at Talk:Republic of Moldova? 86.105.71.34 was blocked and at least appears to have come back (editing from a variety of IP addresses and signing with a Romanian flag) and making some absolutely threatening remarks such as http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Republic_of_Moldova&diff=27287344&oldid=27270471. Unless you think this is a different person (in which case, please do weigh in and say so), this behavior is escalating, not scaling back. -- Jmabel | Talk 17:40, 5 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Also, could you weigh in at Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_comment/86.105.71.34#How_to_proceed? -- Jmabel | Talk 18:44, 5 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Salut

Salut Ronline, multumesc de mesajul tau, sa stii ca am luat in considerare ce mi-ai spus si voi tine cont in viitor. Despre telecomunicatii in Romania, am citit undeva ca la ora actuala sunt peste 12 milioane iar pana la sfarsitul anului peste 13 (este de luat in considerare noul brand Connex-Vodafone si avantul acestei companii). Te salut si numai bine Ronline!

Salut Ronline, am propus noi paragrafe pe pagina de discutii a Romaniei, in orice caz paragrafe care nu vor da nastere la discutii. Eu ma abtin de la orice comentarii si editari dupa ce am ramas destul de socat despre ce scrie Joe. Sper sa-si retraga acuzatiile nefondate. Oricum de aceea am propus niste subiecte care sper ca nu vor da nastere la interpretari. Sper sa cuplezi la idee si sa ma sprijini in masura in care ai timp. Te salut Ronline!

Municipiul in Hungarian

Hi, we talked about "municipiul" in the Hungarian Wikipedia. The term for municipiul can be "megyei jogú város" or especially in Transylvania "municípium", which is a loan-word.
But in Hungarian we do not use it in the name of the towns, it is too formal so we think that it would be better to mention it in comments. -nagytibi ^{! ?} 21:39, 3 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

It is OK just to list the Hungarian name of the city without "municípium". Just simple the name of the town nothing else. -nagytibi ^{! ?} 19:58, 4 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]