Talk:William Bligh
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Bligh popular in NSW
Prior to the rebellion did he not gain admiration and support from the colonists when he stemmed the corrupt trading practices, mostly conducted by British Army personnel stationed there. Surely this needs a mention especially as it might be connected with the procedures prohibited that led to the rum rebellion. If there are accounts of sucess in his much blighted career, they need mentioning for the sake of balance. Dainamo 11:12, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
Its probably hard to find any of that because the corps and future-governor macarthur really did a good job of defaming and (excuse the pun) blighting his name in NSW WookMuff 09:26, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
you need to change something
you need to change the fact that the first line of text states that Captain Bligh was born in Cornwall, while the caption under the picture says that he was born in Devon. It calls into question all that comes after. 24.240.17.232 (talk) 04:24, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
Three watches
I think the article should mention that Bligh was not the first captain of the British Navy to introduce three watches (the article seems to pretend so). Apparently the British admirality left, during quite a long period of time, to the captain of any ship to introduce this or that watch system. I do not know if James Cook was really the first one to introduce the three-watch system; however, since Bligh was Cook's Sailing Master on his third voyage to the South Sea, he should have learned the comforts of three watches. (Today, three watches are the rule; and you learn its benefits the other way round: the under-manned private sailing yachts do not allow more than two watches ... and everybody is always tired and tired and over-tired, and at the brink of his physical capacities ... )
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idea
You need to make a section for where you get one paragraph to read what he did. and when i saw paragraph i mean small like 5 sentances.
Incompitence
The book Incompetence (a comedy by the writers of Red Dwarf) contains a throw away paragraph stating that it is a little known fact that Bligh sufferred not one but seven seperate mutinies during his career. Is this correct? And surely, if it is, it is worthy of note on this page?
Acutally he had 3 - Bounty, when the entire fleet munited at Spithead and the troubles in NSW
Technically 4, since he also seems to have been involved in the Nore muninty following Spithead.--192.249.47.11 (talk) 20:13, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
HMS Glatton
While this page states that the HMS Glatton, Bligh's command at Copenhagen, was a 64 gun ship, the ship's page states that it was a 56 gun ship. Any idea as to the correct number or the reason for this discrepancy?—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Lord asriel (talk • contribs) 09:42, 12 July 2006 (UTC+10 hours (AEST))
'Certainly not the vicious man portrayed in popular fiction'?
I don't feel sure that this statement is in line with the historical facts, it merely seems to follow the latest political trend (monetarism: voracious capitalism revisited)/book about the study of Captain William Bligh. I feel that more evidence and citations are needed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.138.136.92 (talk • contribs)
- The article is well referenced and the assertion is well in line with modern scholarship about Bligh. I am removing the unwarranted {{dubious}} tag. —phh (t/c) 16:04, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
- According to a biography I read of Bligh, some decades ago, the Bounty's log recorded that he had ordered corporal punishment a total of seven times -- and commented that this was very moderate for the time, for a voyage of that length.
- Cheers! Geo Swan 18:20, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
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What did they eat and drink 47 days?
On the voyage to Timor? It's mentioned they had food for only few days and they were attacked in Tofua. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.139.226.37 (talk) 07:32, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
According to Caroline Alexander's book on the true story of the mutiny, Bligh and his men survived on an ounce of bread each day, half a pint of water (plus rainwater) and oysters and berries they found on an island off of Australia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.233.65.199 (talk) 02:43, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
Documentary on Bligh's reputation
There was a documentary a few months ago in the UK made by a Bligh descendant, who I think was from NZ which basically traced the bad reputation that Bligh has back to a dubious source written in the early 19th century. I think a book may be being written in it but I'm not certain. Gustav von Humpelschmumpel (talk) 09:32, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
- Links here and here. Gustav von Humpelschmumpel (talk) 09:38, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
Notorious?
The article currently states "A notorious mutiny occurred during his command of HMS Bounty in 1789" The word notorious used in this sense appears to have a bias POV against the mutiny and it is my request that the word be supplemented by a more impartial word. Notorious is usually known to mean unfavorable. It is my thoughts that it should be revised should it be agreed upon and reasonable, unless my note be in error. DiscoElf (talk) 01:47, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
Bligh reference in USS Cyclops article
The end of the second paragraph in the "Accusations" section of the USS Cyclops states "the crews of these ships reported that Worley suffered from a personality allegedly akin to that of HMS Bounty's captain William Bligh; the crew was often brutalized by Worley for trivial things". However, the wiki article on William Bligh states that "The Bounty's log shows that Bligh resorted to punishments relatively sparingly. He scolded when other captains would have whipped and whipped when other captains would have hanged." So which is it? Was he a gentle leader with his crew's best interest at heart or an irrational tyrant? It seems very unencyclopedic for two articles to so blatantly contradict each other. Personally I'm leaning towards the William Bligh article as being closer to the truth, but I'm not an expert, which is why I'm posting here so that hopefully someone more knowledgeable than myself can fix it.Bookbaby2004 (talk) 08:19, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
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