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Pronunciation

Wiktionary[1] and Dictionary.com[2] both offer 'konk' and 'konch' as valid pronounciations, which is likely why that particular line was removed. -Dawson 17:28, 12 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm! My copy of the OED lists only koŋk. The second pronunciation must be an innovation. I've certainly never heard anyone say konch, and I've lived for 60 years where people used to line their front walks with koŋk shells (they're too rare for that, these days). Ah well, verifiability, not truth. I won't fight over it. -- Donald Albury^(Talk) 18:08, 12 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I've actually heard Conch on several occasions. I feel that New England is strictly koŋk. i could be wrong, this is only from personal experience, — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.212.85.194 (talk • contribs)
- I also grew up in New England saying "konk". On many trips to Key West and the Caribbean (Soufriere, St. Lucia and Georgetown, Grand Cayman), I got weird looks when ordering "konk chowder". Ordering "konch chowder" works just fine. 209.6.19.88 (talk) 02:25, 17 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  - Why is there even a reference to the pronounciation in the USA? The area is irrelevent unless it is also listed how each other country pronounces it. The only two pronounciations I've heard are listed already so I'm going to remove the USA bit. VowNix (talk) 18:07, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Humph! Then shame on the OED. I'm sure it was in Lord of the Flies that i was surprised to hear the final consonant as tʃ (the usually pronunciation of English "ch" or terminal "tch"), contrary to the k that i learned at home. (And tho it was shot in the Caribbean, it had British director, producer, and child actors, playing British children.)
  --Jerzy•t 04:39, 30 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  - H. I was just about to mention 'konch' in LOTF. Additionally, when using the konch pronouniation should the plural be conches instead of conchs? Moss Ryder (talk) 03:59, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Conch development?

I've pulled the section below off the article page because I can find no reference for it.

Software Development
Loosely based on agile methods, "Conch Development" is a methodology suited for teams supporting existing systems while at the same time working on new projects. As a direct reference to Lord of the Flies, team developers rotate "having the conch" (i.e. working on new development) while the other developers on the team handle the support load.

--Donald Albury^(Talk) 01:45, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

size?

There was no mention of adult size on the page :-(

Depends on the species, so not appropriate in the article about the genus. -- Donald Albury^(Talk) 01:02, 15 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

TMS

'Playing a conch' quoted on Test Match Special 2 pm BST, 9th June 2007. MartinMcCann 12:59, 9 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

External Links

Clearly, a significant aspect of the conch is its use as an instrument - this page is even grouped with a musical instrument project. Many readers are interested in learning about, and then acquiring and making a conch shell horn. It is therefore logical that a link be provided with information on how to make your own horn out of a conch shell. One can be found here!. This is a non commercial means of obtaining a conch shell horn which would be found highly valuable by many readers. Does anyone object to its inclusion on this page? CanDo 17:34, 14 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The site has Google ads (and you've canvassed numerous other pages petitioning it's inclusion). Please do not add it. OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 18:04, 14 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

this doesnt say how it works either you guys are FUCKING GAY —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.174.62.48 (talk) 04:08, 9 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Conch as food

why do you need a citation on "some people like the white meat"?

the dark meat in the conch is bitter as hell —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.50.32.75 (talk) 22:12, 4 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Added a citation on the conch as a food, but I couldn't find anything on the white/dark meat. I left it there, though. Kallimina (talk) 19:00, 14 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Conch Pearl Discussion

The referenced article from Gems and Gemology does not indicate that GIA has shifted its position on conch "pearls". GIA abides by the CIBJO nomenclature which still designates conch "pearls" as calcareous concretions. Kenneth Scarrat was simply arguing an opinion at the Abu Dhabi convention.

Further, I removed the article date from the reference. The date displayed on the GIA Web site reflects the current date, not the date of the article. This article referenced is nearly a year old.

Notice how clicking this link now returns today's date for the article. http://www.gia.edu/gemsandgemology/620/30177/this_weeks_news_details.cfm JPShepherd (talk) 18:02, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Nix on "sea snail"

I found myself asking whether all "sea snails" live under water, or some live on tidal zones or on beaches or rocks on sea shores, so i consulted my three exemplary dictionaries. Only the 50-year-old Webster's Second defines the term, so it is ambiguous in current English & may not be used without explanation.
--Jerzy•t 17:52, 29 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Extinction

I found

At least 65 species of Strombidae are extinct, and a much larger number of species exist only in the fossil record.

Which is convoluted enuf that at first i vague about how it contradicted itself. On the assumption that it is not complete nonsense, i recast it as

At least 65 species of the Strombidae family became extinct recently enough for their shells to have been collected without fossilization, and several times as many species exist only as fossils.

(I also reworded "much larger number" into more direct form.)
All of this wording needs sourcing more urgently than usual bcz i had to rely on careful guesswork.
--Jerzy•t 04:40, 30 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The term "fossilization" is misleading here, and seems to suggest mineralization. Mollusc shells from the Miocene and probably older can be found without obvious mineralization. According to Fossil, the term "Fossil" merely means older than some arbitrary date: "a preserved specimen is called a "fossil" if it is older than some minimum age, most often the arbitrary date of 10,000 years ago". Also, what's the source for that statement? Ecphora (talk) 06:55, 30 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I figured this out. The article used to state: "At least 65 species of Strombidae are extant, and a much larger number of species exist only in the fossil record." See this version. Someone replaced "extant" with "extinct." The statement that there are about 65 extant appears to be correct. See this website, which uses the "65" figure. That site, however, isn't very authoratative. A more authoritative site identifies 74 living Strombidae. See here. Accordingly, I have rewritten the sentence: "About 74 species of Strombidae are living, and a much larger number of species exist only in the fossil record." and added the previous reference. Ecphora (talk) 07:38, 30 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Split off Strombus

This article combines and confuses two different subjects. First, it discusses the "conches" as that term is commonly used, which includes a variety of snails from various families, and even apparently a bivalve. Second, it covers the so-called "true conches", i.e., those in the family Strombidae. (Actually, the article Strombidae implies that not all of its genera are called "true conches") Although this article seems to be primarily about the commonly used term (see, eg. the folklore discussion which involves snails other than the Strombidae (or where it is unclear exactly what "conch" is eaten, worn or used)), the taxobox does not fit as it deals only with the Strombidae and in fact only the single genus Strombus. Because the term "conch" is ambiguous and is not limited to Strombus, I suggest that a new article Strombus be created and the taxobox moved there. Ecphora (talk) 17:46, 21 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]