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British/Irish

I was asked to check British nationality law, so I did.

"Under the law in effect from 1 January 1983, a child born in the UK to a parent who is a British citizen or 'settled' in the UK is automatically a British citizen by birth. "'Settled' status in this context usually means the parent is resident in the United Kingdom and has the right of abode, holds Indefinite Leave to Remain (ILR), or is the citizen of an EU/EEA country and has permanent residence. Irish citizens in the UK are also deemed to be settled for this purpose."

Macklin was born in Britain to Irish parents whoa re settled in the United Kingdom. He meets the criteria for British citizenship and therefore has been granted it. This makes him British/Irish.

I'll be reverting the article soon enough. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.115.4.221 (talk) 19:24, 31 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You did not read it particularly well, since Macklin was born in 1982. And if you want to describe him as British, you should be able to provide a source confirming he has British nationality? O Fenian (talk) 19:26, 31 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Additionally, even if he was born after 1983, I think you are mixing nationality up with citizenship.--Vintagekits (talk) 19:44, 31 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It still applies. British nationality law is proof of his nationality.

And Vintagekits, citizenship IS nationality. Sorry but nationality CANNOT be passed down from your parents, it is not hereditary nor is it the same as ethnicity. If you move to a country, live there for a few years and receive citizenship, that is your nationality.

For example - TS. Eliot was British-American. Freddie Mercury became British, and rejected his Indian heritage. Slash is no longer British, he is American. Gene Simmons is no longer Israeli, he is American.

All you need is citizenship, and you have changed your nationality. There's nothing British or Irish or anything in our blood, in our DNA - all it is is the nation that we have tagged ourselves to, and you can quite easily change it via naturalisation and aquiring citizenship. In this case, he is British-Irish, unless you can find me proof that he has rejected his British nationality, which may be the case.

If you can find me a source proving that he stresses that he isn't British, I will gladly accept defeat in this case.