Talk:List of accidents and disasters by death toll

Pre-1900 explosions

I notice there are only 2 pre-1900 disasters in the explosions list, and both took place in the Netherlands. Is this a coincidence? On a worldwide scale, the Netherlands is a tiny region, even by population. And both were explosions of gunpowder stores (one on land and one on a ship). Did this maybe have to do with the Dutch being traders, which would include gunpowder trade? Or is the list incomplete and do the Dutch like to boast about their mishaps more than other nationalities? :) Also striking is that the only other mention of a disaster in the Netherlands in the whole article (so including other causes) is also in the explosion-list, namely the fireworks factory in Enschede. DirkvdM (talk) 12:30, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Locations and missing article

I noticed that many of these disasters don't have articles about them. This is fine. However, some of these link to the place or time it happened. These articles typically only have a passing mention of the disaster, if it even mentions them at all.

I would rather see a red link than an irrelevent one. Maybe it should be Wikipedia policy that on any list of events, you only link the event's article, and never to the place's article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.212.9.95 (talk) 13:29, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Agreed, this is the way it should be approached TheHammer24 (talk) 17:52, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

Classification

The Other Accidents section contains quite a few fires and collapses, as well as some that fall into other categories. -Should fires and collapses be separated out? -Why aren't the explosions (and others) categorized? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.34.74.154 (talk) 02:48, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Biblical Flood?

It's quite heavily referenced, shouldn't it be on there? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.150.48.120 (talk) 15:01, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

The Biblical Flood has too little factual references to be classified here 66.65.45.81 (talk) 20:46, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Flood in Netherlands

Shouldn't this one be added? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Sea_Flood_of_1953 Killed around 1500 people in a flood. I'm to shy to try it myself ._. 84.105.203.46 (talk) 20:26, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

No, the flood section excludes natural disasters TheHammer24 (talk) 17:56, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

9/11 not deliberate violence?

If no-one objects I'm going to take 9/11 off this list. It says at the very top that deaths caused by deliberate violence would not be included, and 9/11 was a highly deliberate act of terrorism, not an accident. Gorman (talk) 23:26, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

1963 Explosion, Oulu, Finland

In 1963, a factory exploded in Oulu, Finland. It killed 10 people for sure and is usually said to have shattered 'thousands' of windows. It is referenced, in Finnish, for instance in http://suomenkuvalehti.fi/jutut/kotimaa/jarkyttavat-muistot , search for 'Räjähdyksiä 9.1.1963 Typpi Oy:n (nyk. Kemiran) Oulun tehtaiden räjähdyksessä ...' Suomen Kuvalehti is a reliable and well known Finnish magazine. I'm not sure if good English language sources exist. Should this be added? Matti Nuortio, Oulu, Finland (talk) 21:33, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

March 2009 trim

I will remove some less notable or unsourced events from the list and put them here. Feelfree to discuss. I have rough criteria in mind, but typing them would be too long. Circeus 23:28, 22 March 2009 (UTC) The years are missing from the copied elements.

Coal Mine

• 74 - coal mine (Jiaomei, Tunlan, Gujiao, Shanxi, China, on Februry 22, 2009)

April 9 2009 trim

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Industrial Accident

• 46 - NFC Mining Africa Chambish cooper mine explode in Zambia, on April 21, 2005.

Stampede Disaster

• 22 - Houphouët-Boigny Arena stampede in Abidjan, Cote d'Ivoire, on March 29, 2009.

April 16 2009 trim

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Aviation

• 173 - 1979 Dneprodzerzhinak mid-air collision (Ukraine, August 1979)

May 8 2009 trim

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Maritime

• 300 - Indonesian passenger ship Hasrat Mulia capsize by overloaded off Sulawesi, Indonesia on April, 1982.
• 200 - Filipino passenger vessel Iruna capsized and collision with British freighter Eastern Moon off Cebu Island on November, 1968.
• 150 - Ecuadorean passenger ferry Jambeli capsize by overloaded off Puna Island, Ecuador on December, 1973.
• 114 - Filipino passenger ferry MV Don Juan capsized by collision with oil tanker Tablocan City off Tablas Strait, Philippines on April, 1980.

May 25 2009 trim

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Train accidents

• 176 - Kendal train disaster, (Jamaica, September 1957)

June 2 2009 trim

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Train accidents

• 300 - Gambar train accident, (Punjab, Pakistan, September 1957)
• 100 - Matunga commuter trains disaster, (Mumbai, India, June 1966)

June 10 2009 trim

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Structural collapses

• 81 - a seven-story apartment building collapse in Diyarbakir, Turkey on January 3, 1983.
• 60 - Naiwa Devi temple collapse in 1983, with stampede in Bilaspur, Himachal Pradesh, India on August 14, 1983.
• 52 - a three-story apartment building collapse in Nagpada, Mumbai, India on August 13.
• 50 - a five-story apartment building collapse in Sharabeya, Cairo, Egypt on July 24, 1978.
• 40 - a five-story apartment building collapse in Mumbra, Maharashtra, India on May 24, 1980.
• 27 - a seven-story apartment building collapse in Mit Ghamr, Dakahlia, Egypt on July 11, 1986.

June 25 2009 trim

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Structural collapses

• 47 - a five-story resistance building collapse in Fes, Morocco, December 9, 1999.
• 40 - a three-story office building coallpse in Yuanjiang Country, Hunan, China, September 17, 1987.
• 20 - underconstructing to a five-story resistance building collapse in Marrakesh, Morocco, December 16, 1987.

June 30 2009 trim

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Stampede Disasters

• 48 - Zamalek Stadium stampede, when soccer fan crashing and stampede on a gate, during Al-Zamalek and Dukla Prague soccer match in Cairo, Egypt on February 17, 1974.

July 14 2009 trim

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Coal Mine

• 214 - coal mine (Blowrah, Chirkunda, Dhanbad, Jharkhand, India, February 19, 1958)
• 53 - coal mine (Meitian 3, Shaoguan, Guangdong, China, July 13, 1985)

Industrial Accidents

• 38 - Thai Royal Army munitions facilities explode in Bangkok, Thailand, on November 16, 1980.

July 27 2009 trim

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Structural collapses

• 40 - Par Hoti Bridge collapsed by flood-swollen in Mardan, North-West Frontier Province, Pakistan on August 5, 2006.

July 30 2009 trim

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Coal Mine

• 128 - coal mine (Orasi, Kakanj, Zenica-Doboj, Bosnia, on June 7, 1965)
• 83 - coal mine (Akaike, Fukuchi, Fukuoka, Japan on October 1935)
• 62 - coal mine (Mitsubishi Yubari, Yubari, Hokkaido, Japan on May 17, 1985)
• 60 - coal mine (Yubetsu, Kushiro, Hokkaido, Japan on November 1, 1955)
• 49 - coal mine (Unsong, Mungyeong, Gyeongsangbuk-do, South Korea on October 28, 1979)
• 49 - coal mine (Shengfo, Huoxian, Shanxi, China on May 30, 1988)

August 23 2009 trim

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Structural collapses

• 145 - a wooden bridge stampede, following to collapse during Penfrancia Fluvial event in Naga City, Camarines Sur, Philippines on September 17, 1972.
• 60 - Underconstructing to Anahuac road bridge collapsed in Naucalpan de Juarez, Mexico on December 5, 1967.
• 42 - Dalian Heavy Machinery Factory's roof collapse in Liaoning, China on February 19, 1990.
• 40 - Salte de Sete Quedas road bridge collapse in Guaira, Parana, Brazil on January 18, 1982.

Fires

Great fire of london? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.170.200.182 (talk) 01:10, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Only five deaths. Kostja (talk) 15:55, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Animal attacks

To my mind, these don't fit here. They are essentially both 'natural' (apart from being related to human population density, which is linked to all natural disasters) and 'deliberate' (they don't just sort of happen from freak causes). Salopian (talk) 00:55, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Inclusion criteria

Has anyone given any thought to the creation of some kind of rigorous inclusion criteria for this list? As it stands it is literally a dumping ground for accidents both major and minor. I hate to say it but some accidents are routine and non-notable. I mean, is an accident at a fireworks factory that killed 1 person worth including here? A whaleship that lost 13 crewmembers? An accident during a yacht race that killed 6? Perhaps it is just me, but currently the list is so long as to be practically useless. Shereth 15:39, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Large explosion in North Korea

A few years ago there was a large explosion with many casualities in North Korea. I remember hearing it on the news but can't recall any details. It is not in the list but it sure was big enough to be included. Anyone who knows enough to add it?