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Deletion query

Hello Spartaz. I created a page which was deleted. 20:46, 22 August 2009 Spartaz (talk | contribs) deleted "Stephen Wayne Jamieson" ‎ (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Stephen Wayne Jamieson). Is this the place to discuss undeletion? Anthony (talk) 19:34, 10 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Lakshmisiddhi (talk) 17:22, 18 October 2009 (UTC)Dear Spartaz[reply]

Thank you very much for restoring the article on V.V.L.N.Sastry.

I was the originator of this article of V.V.L.N.Sastry. As a third person, I have taken utmost care in presenting a nuetral view. I have searched the NET and found more than 3500 sources, when you search the name of V.V.L.N.Sastry on Google. He is an young icon for many economically middle class persons in India. Many people like us watch him daily on TV in various shows relating to Economy and get more knowledge.

While creating this article, due to my lack of knwoledge in putting these pages across, I have done the page as I could do. But you can help us in improving this page. I donot know, how to provide references in the running text, you can also help me in doing so. There are many credible references available about V.V.L.N.Sastry on the net.

Please donot remove this article. Regards. Lakshmi SiddhiLakshmisiddhi (talk) 17:22, 18 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

A Question of Relative Morality

Which is more offensive? Comparing an editor to Hitler or calling them a cunt? Answers below if you feel like it. Spartaz Humbug! 05:23, 7 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The former is a cultural meme for anything anyone hates, thinned out a little perhaps only by its overuse, whilst the latter is an overbearing, utter slur. They spin up into about the same level of personal attack. Gwen Gale (talk) 11:33, 7 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Bobby Schilling

I would like to apologize for my immature behavior through the Bobby Schilling deletion review, and I realize I didn't help my case very well. That being said, I would still like to know what exactly was wrong with the article and how it can be fixed. Please let me know when you get a chance. Thanks. NYyankees51 (talk) 01:51, 8 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sportspages

Saw your comment at AfD. Sportpages is sadly no more. It went out of business three years ago (or in the case of the Manchester branch I frequented, four years ago) [1]. Oldelpaso (talk) 21:56, 8 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • :-( That sucks - also shows how long I have been living outside the UK. I couldn't find the forbidden planet last time I was in London either and Murder 1 is long gone. I have no idea where to buy books in the UK these days... Spartaz Humbug! 22:21, 8 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ashida Kim (7th nomination)

Since you participated in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ashida Kim (6th nomination), which was closed as no consensus and later relisted after a DRV discussion, you may be interested in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ashida Kim (7th nomination). Cunard (talk) 08:20, 14 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Request for comment

Please comment on Zenfolio stub at my talk page. I appreciate very much. Thank you.ESCapade (talk) 13:15, 16 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

UAA

Anything in particular? As the answer was 100% correct based on our current standards and policies. From everything on confirming how to deal with various individuals down to the specific answers, it matches exactly how such are being dealt with. The inaccurate claims put forth by Rspeer have already been refuted as oversimplifying matters that were intended to be situations that cannot be simplified. Was there some other concern? Ottava Rima (talk) 19:49, 19 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. Firstly, usernames like these don't get blocked unless they edit first and secondly, stating that they would consult other admins for very straightforward cases shows either a lack of confidence in their judgement to be an admin or that they are playing to the gallery to avoid generating opposition by appearing gung ho. In either case its not what I would be looking for if I were to offer a support. Spartaz Humbug! 19:53, 19 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Seeing as how the admin who created them made them to -not- be straightforward, your claims of the above are absolutely absurd. this is further compounded on the fact that iMatthew never said he would block them. These two are very problematic mistakes that make me hope that you don't ever work in UAA. Ottava Rima (talk) 19:57, 19 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Funny enough I don't work at UAA, its far too petty for my taste but if you answer questions about UAA the most significant thing to mention is that the names don't get blocked unless they have edited except in incredibly egregious circumstances so missing that off is the big boobo. Whether or not you think the names are as straightforward as I do, insisting that you will consult someone else for the answer is still the wrong response in my book. Spartaz Humbug! 20:02, 19 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Seeing as how he never claimed that he would block any, the above makes absolutely no sense. You are acting as if he said all four would be blocked. That is not true at all. And admin should -always- consult with others. To claim otherwise shows an arrogance that is not acceptable for the position. Ottava Rima (talk) 20:11, 19 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Nonsense, admins take actions without consulting anyone else all the time. That's why we have a tortuous selection process to find out if the community trusts that user to use the admin tools wisely. I see that they never said that they would block them but they also didn't specifically state that the edit first rule might apply so they didn't bone up on the policy (or at least understand it) before they made the answer. Sorry but its so fundamental to the username policy that it should be categorically commented on if you are dealing with the question. Spartaz Humbug! 20:16, 19 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
And admins are desysopped for taking such action. You are promoting arrogance and recklessness. You statement goes against everything Wikipedia stands for. If it ever came up that you were in an election that trust matters, I hope people see the above claim by you so there will be a massive oppose over such disrespect for ethical standards. It is -never- a problem to consult with other admin. Suggesting the contrary is so ridiculously absurd, there are no words for it. Ottava Rima (talk) 20:22, 19 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I already had my election thanks and I don't think my position on this is significantly away from the mainstream. I think you are making way too much about this. I'm allowed to have a different opinion then you and that doesn't make me either dangerous or arrogant. Spartaz Humbug! 20:42, 19 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Opposing users because they consult with others is one of the worse kinds of things you can do. It is directly contradictory to our admin philosophy and goes against the ideas of consensus and agreement. Admin are supposed to work together, not as individuals. You are not in the mainstream, and I was not the only one to tell you that. Your pushing of a dangerous point of view is disruptive. If you are unwilling to acknowledge that administrators are not supposed to act as individuals who refuse to discuss matters with others, then you cannot be trusted as one. Ottava Rima (talk) 00:23, 20 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Izzedine unblock request

Hey Spartaz, User:Izzedine, whose unblock request you declined, has just posted a third tl;dr unblock request. I see that in the past (Aug 4) he did the same thing and had his talkpage locked for the duration of the block; do you think that is appropriate here? I would do it myself, but I'm the one who blocked him and I don't want to invite accusations of Wikipedia admins sweeping things under the rug. rʨanaɢ talk/contribs 19:06, 21 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Moved comment

I moved your comment to Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_comment/A_Nobody#Comment_on_various_proposals_from_Casliber. Hope I wasn't stepping on toes, but this RfC will get much more complicated if we get into the practice of adding an "oppose" section alongside endorsements. Protonk (talk) 16:10, 22 September 2009 (UTC) np Spartaz Humbug! 17:01, 22 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Request for undeletion of an article whose AfD you closed

Yo Spartaz, just a heads-up that there is a request for the undeletion of Law Society (University College Dublin), whose AfD you closed, here.  Skomorokh  19:20, 23 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Lakshmisiddhi (talk) 17:24, 18 October 2009 (UTC)Dear Spartaz[reply]

Thank you very much for restoring the article on V.V.L.N.Sastry.

I was the originator of this article of V.V.L.N.Sastry. As a third person, I have taken utmost care in presenting a nuetral view. I have searched the NET and found more than 3500 sources, when you search the name of V.V.L.N.Sastry on Google. He is an young icon for many economically middle class persons in India. Many people like us watch him daily on TV in various shows relating to Economy and get more knowledge.

While creating this article, due to my lack of knwoledge in putting these pages across, I have done the page as I could do. But you can help us in improving this page. I donot know, how to provide references in the running text, you can also help me in doing so. There are many credible references available about V.V.L.N.Sastry on the net.

Please donot remove this article. Regards. Lakshmi SiddhiLakshmisiddhi (talk) 17:24, 18 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Request for clarification

Regarding this closure, how does three keeps and one brief delete weigh up as "no consensus"? —Quasirandom (talk) 19:58, 26 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Lakshmisiddhi (talk) 17:21, 18 October 2009 (UTC)Dear Spartaz[reply]

Thank you very much for restoring the article on V.V.L.N.Sastry.

I was the originator of this article of V.V.L.N.Sastry. As a third person, I have taken utmost care in presenting a nuetral view. I have searched the NET and found more than 3500 sources, when you search the name of V.V.L.N.Sastry on Google. He is an young icon for many economically middle class persons in India. Many people like us watch him daily on TV in various shows relating to Economy and get more knowledge.

While creating this article, due to my lack of knwoledge in putting these pages across, I have done the page as I could do. But you can help us in improving this page. I donot know, how to provide references in the running text, you can also help me in doing so. There are many credible references available about V.V.L.N.Sastry on the net.

Please donot remove this article. Regards. Lakshmi SiddhiLakshmisiddhi (talk) 17:21, 18 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

closing

please please wait the full 7 X 24 hours. Even a few hours early tend to drift, as other people go to 6, 12, etc. This is one place where it matters. This definitely does not mean I disagree in the slightest with the actual closings today., but just a friendly reminder. DGG ( talk ) 21:59, 26 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Request

Hello again...hope you're doing alright. If you have a second, could you userfy me The Beast (band)? Thanks Chubbles (talk) 23:02, 26 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Not what I had expected... Chubbles (talk) 06:39, 27 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Request to move a protected page into my userspace for

Hi, I would kindly ask you to open for me the right to edit the page below: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/NORC_(service). It was protected by you. 9:25, 9 May 2009 Spartaz protected NORC (service) [create=sysop] (indefinite) ‎ (recreate after deletion) (hist) Because it was deleted for lack of reliable sources I would like to add them. Thanks Soapview1 (talk) 16:38, 27 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Jennings

Congratulations on the move. All wikibitching aside, I hope it went well and you are enjoying the new digs. Have you had chance to look at User:Cptnono/Jay Jennings? (I would be surprised if you did not) Poopeypants added a few more good sources and it looks OK. I hope it can be improved but as is it is: A BLP that meets GNG and is better than a stub. What do you think?Cptnono (talk) 12:12, 30 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

L.A. Times, The Orange County Register, Films In Review, Beverly Hills Courier, PBS-TV, several well-known film festivals. The publications and TV stations are well-known, well-respected here in the United States. Hardcopy newspaper coverage can be e-mailed to you if needed. Cptnono, what's with the Poopeypants comment? Timemachine1967 (talk) 22:58, 30 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I thought it would be funny ;) (now I feel bad)Cptnono (talk) 23:11, 30 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I also saw that you mentioned the DRV at the request Timemachine made to have the page recreated. The DRV showed that you were not incorrect to delete it and I specifically agreed with your action since you were going out of your way to do what you could to assist. The article has been updated and more importantly significant coverage has been established. Maybe there was miscommunication but you said that you had not had the chance to review the sources emailed to you due to the move. Since those were emailed, the PBS source has received an inline episode citation, additional film festivals have been referenced, and a couple good sources from the The Orange County Register (third largest paid daily circulation in California) have been included. There has also been the much needed clean up. I agree with the admin that the request for page protection would have been the correct venue instead of the recreate attempt but I personally would like to get your approval on the article. It would be appreciated if you could take a look at the article again. A little bit of cooling off has been done and the improvements you requested have been made. Cptnono (talk) 10:35, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
      • To be honest I can see that either the film or the director could be notable but funny enough its more likely the film is rather then Jennings himself. Since we don't have an article on the file we do need to create something - but which? I'm inclined to restore and relist the new article but i'm not sure whether to do this at DRV or another AFD. I'm unlikley to have much time today but certainly I will resolve this tomorrow at the latest. Spartaz Humbug! 10:49, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
You can restore or unblock creation depending on what is easier. Either way the text to be copied in is different enough that I think a DRV would cause confusion but I am not very familiar with that process. In this situation, I think if I came across an article on that particular movie (assume you mean Loanshark) I would look into merging it into the director's article instead of the other way around just because the other work he has done accounts for some of the current coverage in the draft and Loanshark would be a stub.Cptnono (talk) 11:05, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
OK, I moved the article to mainspace and its down to other editors if they feel a further afd is required. Thank you for your patience. Spartaz Humbug! 11:52, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the follow-up.Cptnono (talk) 19:39, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

'nother

Could I beggar you for Dorothy Allen? Thanks Chubbles (talk) 19:09, 3 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]


New information in regards to Phatchance article

Hi Spartaz, I did a quick search today and found some new information in regards to this article, let me know if any of these seem to constitute the extra coverage that was needed, if so I'll have a crack at reworking the article using some or all of them :)

http://1songday.blogspot.com/2009/10/premiere-phatchance-inkstains.html

http://whothehell.net/archives/6181

Stevezimmy (talk) 02:49, 7 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry Steve but blogs are not considered reliable sources for the purpose of establishing notability. Its needs to be published media or major on-line site with fact checking built into its operation. Something like NME or Guardian online, that kind of thing. Spartaz Humbug! 03:29, 7 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, I found some more stuff. He's received 'Feature Artist' on Triple J Unearthed, Triple J is the Independent National Broadcaster here in Australia, this means his single is now on rotation at the station. One of the WP:MUSIC criteria was a song on national rotation, hopefully that helps? There's also an interview attached to the feature spot. http://www.triplejunearthed.com/Artists/FeaturedArtist.aspx?artistid=1924 I also found another indepth interview, but again, it's a blog, so I assume that renders it useless? It is a pretty popular blog in our music scene, but that stuff can't be used to establish credibility, yes? Just to garner information? http://certifiedscribe.wordpress.com/2009/10/16/phatchance/ I've also found a feature article on the Home & Hosed Site (one of Triple J's primary shows) http://www.abc.net.au/triplej/homeandhosed/blog/s2719210.htm Thanks mate! Stevezimmy (talk) 06:49, 19 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Your assistance please

The record shows you deleted File:Comando Reggiment.JPG. User:Gerd 72, the contributor who uploaded this image uploaded about one hundred images of Albanian military installations or equipment, one or two at a time, over the last two and a half years. Most of the image they uploaded were deleted, in one fell swoop, about a month ago.

I looked at User:Gerd 72's talk page. I thought they offered a very credible explanation as to how they got access to that Albanian military installations and equipment.

I could see that a small minority of the images Gerd 72 uploaded were scans of previously published images. Many good faith uploaders make the mistake of thinking they possess intellectual property rights to scans of PD material. I'd like to confirm that. Would you mind taking a look at this image, and telling me if it were a scanned image, or an ordinary photo?

Thanks! Geo Swan (talk) 12:13, 7 October 2009 (UTC) ~I undeleted the image for you to see. i actually deleted the thing because it was part of an article that I deleted for some reason and the image was clearly of no value outside that. Obviously you can assess for yourself if this is worth keeping or restoring. Spartaz Humbug! 12:28, 7 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hello

Hi there,

You have fairly recently deleted an article about a filmmaker called Boris Malagurski. The main reason for this seems to have been that "there are no independent, secondary sources that directly discuss this person in any detail" (quote by Yilloslime). After doing some research, I can safely say that there is more than enough independent, secondary sources that directly discuss this person in detail.

  • Literárky V Síti - An in-depth interview of Mr. Malagurski by Tereza Spencerova and Michal Stavrev for the Czech Newspaper (this is the online version) on May 30, 2009
  • Czech Free Press - Another interview of Mr. Malagurski by Tereza Spencerova on February 7, 2009
  • Bas Biber - An interview with Mr. Malagurski in the Austrian "Biber" magazine on May 14, 2009
  • Novinar - Short interview of Mr. Malagurski in the Serbian-German newspaper on May 11, 2009
  • He is a columnist for the Kisobran Newspaper (if you click on the link, you can find his name, in Cyrillic - Борис Малагурски, in almost every issue for the past couple of years)
  • He was also interviewed by the Edmonton Journal here, which caused a great controversy.[2] [3] In this article, it is also stated that Mr. Malagurski is the President of the Serbian Youth League, confirmed at the official web-site

Considering Wikipedia has articles about much less known public figures, I believe it would be a shame to not have an article about this individual (who was on television several times, interviewed by RTVP's Diaspora Live, Radio Television Serbia's Mira Adanja-Polak show, etc etc) and, considering all the links I have provided after doing the research, I would request that you bring it back, so I can add these links. Thanks, --Cinéma C 22:01, 7 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Interviews are primary sources and self published stuff dosnt count. What were are looking for is detailed independent references by thinks like print media and books that actually talk about the subject in detail. Spartaz Humbug! 03:04, 8 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Writing in a newspaper doesnt make you notable even if you are a regular contributor unless someone has written about you in the newspaper. Being interviewed is a primary source not a secondary souce so normally doesn't count I'm afraid. Are these new sources though or were they available for the deletion discussion? Spartaz Humbug! 06:44, 8 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • First of all, I'm not this person. What about all the other sources that I provided just now, where he's not interviewed, but the largest news agency of South Eastern Europe, Tanjug, wrote about him (not an interview): Source: Tanjug, or the Georgia Straight, a printed newspaper, which also mentions him (not an interview): Source: Georgia Straight? Another source, that I just found, shows that he was named the Top 30 Under 30 Serbian Young Entrepreneurs by the International Diaspora Youth Leadership Conference 2009: Link. Also, his films have been on television, as I've shown from the previous links. Do these not count? --Cinéma C 16:32, 8 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
We generally ask for detailed sources so passing mentions don't meet our notability test and being one of 30 is hardly a major award. Tell you what, if you can very briefly write up each source noting what it is from and what it says about him (a line will do per source) I'll happily relist this for you so that there can be further discussion of the sources. I'm not personally persuaded but this is something we would usually ask the community to look at in borderline cases. The reason why I'm asking you to briefly explain the sources is that although I can read Cyrillic and speak some Russian so I can guess about the content (yes I know Serbian isn't Russian) but most editors don't and it will help them to consider the source properly. Is this acceptable for you? Spartaz Humbug! 16:40, 8 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Sure thing, give me a day or two :) --Cinéma C 02:10, 9 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I just found a new link from the "Pecat" newspaper, that wrote an article about him and his film (not an interview) in their 66th edition. It's an entire page devoted to him and I'm sure this is a secondary source. Please take a look at page 60, and let me know if this is what we need to get the article back. If so, I'll translate it. --Cinéma C 19:34, 11 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Depending on what it says, that's one. You need one more and you are done. Spartaz Humbug! 03:29, 13 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Here's one more - article about him and his new film (not an interview). Are we done? :) --Cinéma C 19:45, 19 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
If Its an online version of a print publication then we are done and I'll undelete and relist to review the sources if you can provide a very very brief précis for the non serbian speakers or cyrillic readers amongst us. (literally two lines for each source saying waht the source was and what kind of article and depth. Spartaz Humbug! 02:51, 20 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Pečat" magazine ("Печат" in Cyrillic, meaning "stamp") has an article about Mr. Malagurski and his film (not an interview) in their 66th edition. It's an entire page devoted to him and this is a secondary source. Please take a look at page 60
Article title: Косово: Можете ли да замислите? ("Kosovo: Can You Imagine?")
Article headline: Док су надобудни великани нашег филма, којима се свет дичи када пљују по свом народу, остали потпуно глуви, слепи и пријатно имуни на проглашење независности Косова, оно мало у њему још затурених Срба, један момак, наш, али из Канаде, отишао је на „ново“ Косово, и снимио на лицу места страдања Срба. ("While our respected film legends, whom the world respects only when they spit at their own people, remained deaf, blind and immune concerning Kosovo's declaration of independence, and the little Serbs left in it, one man, ours, but from Canada, went to the "new" Kosovo and filmed the Serb tragedy on the spot.")
  • "Novinar" novine ("Novinar" meaning "journalist", "novine" meaning "newspaper") has an article about Mr. Malagurski and his film (not an interview) and the entire article is devoted to him. Please take a look at this link
Article title: Šta se stvarno desilo? ("What really happened?")
Article headline: Nakon provokativnog filma o ljudskim pravima Srba i ostalih nealbanaca na Kosovu i Metohiji, osvojenih nagrada u Kanadi i Meksiku, te više prikazivanja filma na ruskoj televiziji, srpsko-kanadski režiser i producent Boris Malagurski iz Vankuvera, autor filma “Kosovo: Možete li zamisliti?”, ušao je u kompleksnu temu umešanosti zapada u unutrašnje poslove bivših jugoslovenskih republika, nekada i danas. ("After the provocative film on the human rights of Serbs and other non-Albanians in Kosovo, received awards in Canada and Mexico, as well as several screenings on Russian television, the Serbian-Canadian director and producer Boris Malagurski from Vancouver, author of the film "Kosovo: Can You Imagine?", is dealing with the complex topic of Western involvement in the internal affairs of former Yugoslav republics then and now.")
Let me know if I need to provide anything else. All the best, --Cinéma C 04:46, 20 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
No, thats cool. Im going to restore and relist now but im busy today and need to think about it for 10 mins or so, if I dont do it this evening feel free to drop me a note to remind me to do it tomorrow. Spartaz Humbug! 04:53, 22 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I am not self-published Janet K. Brennan, insulted and furious

Please know that I just read your comments on my Wic article. I am not self publishsed! Casa de Snapdragon is not a vanity, or self publisher. It is a mainstream, traditional Publishing Company. Visit the site at www.casadesnapdragon.com. I am a well known author, International book reviewer and poet. I have been featured in two "Chicken Soup for the Soul Books, not to mention many, many other publications. Rodale Books, etc. Please re-read my article and check it this time!

If my article came off as "pretentious" then I do not know what to say other than to check my credentials. They are easily verifiable. Visit my own web site at www.jbstillwater.com. Amazon does sell my books, but so does Barnes and Noble , Hastings Book stores and all of the major book stores around the world. You would know this had you actually checked. I have seen many other authors on your site who ARE self published and have far fewer credentials and books to their credit than I do. What can you tell me about this?>

Santosh Kumar critically acclaimed my book, "A Dance in The Woods" He has also mentioned my name in his own wikapedia article. The book deals with the untimely death of my daughter and goes into the psychological aspects of healing while living in a small Italian village. If my life seems too incredible...then perhaps that is because...IT IS!

I am deeply disturbed by this and expect an answer or some kind of explanation. All of my books are very easily verifiable

Janet K. Brennan Author. Poet and International Book Critic

I can give you a few searches that can verify that Janet's books are not only available on Amazon, but other bookstores as well (search for either Janet k. brennan or Casa de Snapdragon): http://www.barnesandnoble.com http://www.bookfinder.com http://www.powells.com do a google search for Twelve Days of Christmas Janet Brennan and you will find an original short story that was published in Chicken Soup for the Christmas Soul and was so well received that it started appearing on a quite a few sites (some of which didn't even credit Janet!)

To refer to any author published at Casa de Snapdragon Publishing as self published is not only insulting, but it may even be considered slanderous. Before using labels like self published, I refer you to the following Wikipedia article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self_Published

Casa de Snapdragon Publishing bears the full cost of publication of all of our authors. compensation for our authors is done via royalties. Where is the self-published nature in that?

Arthur Brennan, Managing Editor, Casa de Snapdragon Publishing —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.230.192.96 (talk) 14:26, 8 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Please enlighten me

Sparatz:

When I traced the reason for deletion of my profile bio under "Janet K. Brennan" on Wik, I found both yours and Dragonflies comments as to why this article was deleted. Citing that I was a self published author with trivial credentials. I took issue with this as I am and have been a published author all of my life, major contributions to some very well-known publications as well as having had five of my own books published. See the article just before this one. Wik has published so many authors, some of them I know, some I do not who have far fewer writing contributions to the literary world than I do, so I am a bit confused about this.

To us it is obvious that my bio was tossed before it was even researched and then I was insulted by you saying that at best I was published in Amazon. My books are literally all over the world. And that is not too difficult to verify. Yes, CDS published my last two books, but that is my choice! I have been published by many other companies over the years, but at age 62, I have chosen to have my husbnad's publishing company (which is a traditioal publishing company, that means he does not charge for the publishing, pays in royalties and gets paid in royalties and is very, very careful aboaut which projects he gets behind.)

Now, I would ask, if forty years of publication, articles, magazines (Rodale Books, Prevention Magazine, ect, novels, etc. does not qualify me for an article on Wik, then what the heck does?

Would love some input on this.

Jb stillwater aka Janet K. Brennan —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jbstillwater (talk • contribs) 17:46, 8 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • um, I never commented on anything. I closed the discussion which was unanimous - I'm not responsible for the comments of individual users and you should take up your concerns directly with them. Spartaz Humbug! 17:50, 8 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Spelling bee champion article merge

Hi. Since you were the deleting admin who closed the discussion on National Spelling Bee champions at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sai R. Gunturi, I’m writing to request that you review your decision to merge. The vote was 7-4 in favor of Keep rather than Merge/Delete (including votes from the nominator and you). The count may vary depending on how one treats some Comments.

You determined that the result should be Merge in spite of the majority going the other way, because you argued that keeping the articles was clearly contrary to the WP:BLP1E policy. However, you chose to keep three former champions because it was pointed out that Jody-Anne Maxwell later hosted a Jamaican quiz show, Katie Kerwin McCrimmon served as TV commenter for the bee for several years, and Jacques Bailly became the official pronouncer for the bee. Unfortunately, I think the nominator may have simply nominated every former champ without reading their individual articles. Besides the three who were kept, at least two of the deleted have multiple claims to fame. Aside from winning the bee, both Anurag Kashyap (Jeopardy and Scripps National Spelling Bee champion) and Amanda Goad also won the Jeopardy! Teen Tournament. (Goad’s high school team also won the 1995 National Academic Championship). I suppose some editors could believe those two events together don’t merit an article, but clearly those two events can’t be merged on the basis of “one event”, which was the basis for the merge decision. So I think those two articles should be restored.

I also think the others should be restored, at least pending individual deletion discussions. First of all, since other multiple event champions were overlooked, there may be other “multiple event” champs erroneously deleted as one event people. Second, I think your reading of WP:BLP1E is too broad and bee champions' biographies can be permissible under that policy. The policy is not a per se rule – it requires a specific examination. It states that a separate biography is merely “unlikely to be warranted.” But an individual with a “substantial” role in a “significant” event can merit a biography. Winners of major beauty pageants (including many state pageant winners) typically get articles even if they don’t have another claim to fame. WP:WI1E notes “one event” people who are kept such as Chesley Sullenberger and Thomas Muthee. Spelling bee champion Rebecca Sealfon garnered signficant media coverage, including an interview on Letterman (like Sullenberger) and 47,200 Google hits (as opposed to just 25,500 for “Thomas Muthee”).

Thanks for your consideration of my unfortunately lengthy arguments. --JamesAM (talk) 19:51, 11 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved on Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Renaming_of_outlines

You archived this as resolved citing that AN/I is not for content disputes. The subject became derailed and was not about content, but User:Verbal's actions. Please for allow further discussion, thanks -- penubag  (talk) 15:25, 12 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • What admin action are you seeking? Admins will not and cannot adjudicate content disputes and this is a content dispute. If verbal has been revert warring then you need to report then to AN3 but ANI is not going to take sides for you. Spartaz Humbug! 15:39, 12 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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Hi, Spartaz I noticed you deleted an image which I uploaded. I was just wondering why a trailer released without a copyright notice between 1923–77 is not considered public domain as this is what I was to led to believe by Wikipedia copyright tags and this. Thanks. Copana2002 (talk) 22:24, 15 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • The trailer is part of the film and the film is copyrighted. Otherwise you would have the possibility of the same image being free and non-free at the same time. So it the images or film comes from a copyrighted work its also copyrighted as a derivative work. Spartaz Humbug! 08:13, 16 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Campfire trailer

Hi. Could you explain why you closed the discussion as "endorse close"? With a AfD/DRV with such controversy, it isn't enough to just put a couple of words with a close. You need to explain it, or you get complaints like this :) Sceptre (talk) 13:37, 17 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • I expanded my reasoning but there is no reason why you can't have your discussion on the article talk page about finding a local consensus to reverse the merge. AFD closes to merge are effectively editorial recommendations not tablets of stone, albeit backed up with by a wider discussion. Local debate can reverse that if the consensus is clear enough. I wrote an essay about that at WP:ND3 Spartaz Humbug! 15:32, 17 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Articles for deletion/Jerry Horton

I just wanted to check whether you have read the sources related to Jerry Horton? The ones provided? The keep !votes are not based on the fact that Jerry Horton merely has talent and makes interesting comments, but that there are multiple WP:RS that demonstrate this. --Firefly322 (talk) 12:05, 19 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • AFD isn't avote but a discussion and consensus is weighed against policy and guidelines not headcount. The first source you point to in the AFD is specifically about papa roach only and the other is really weak. When I weigh opinions I look at the policy basis and I tend not to give weight to assertions that are not backed up with specific policy based arguments so Dreamfocus' argument got discounted. Your first vote was also less policy based then the refutation and your subsequent sources aren't enough to meet independent RS and were tellingly discounted by the next voter to the discussion. I also tend to weigh more lightly votes or statements that are assuming bad faith or attaching other editors so you did yourself no favours when you attacked the motives of the other contributors and accused them for breaching 5P or wikilawyering by referring to existing guidelines and accepted practise. Spartaz Humbug! 14:52, 19 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The whole reason for the AfD process is to discuss such issues amongst various editors and how policy does or does not apply. The method of closing here suggests to me something dangerously close to WP:wikilawyering, making the whole AFD process irrelevant. Should I just take this to review or is there any chance you'll reconsider your close? --Firefly322 (talk) 18:46, 19 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Well since you lost all chance of persuading me with your combative approach i sugegst yu try deletion review. Spartaz Humbug! 02:44, 20 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Let me quote you on me stating somehow that I am "assuming bad faith or attaching other editors". That pretty much sets the tone. --Firefly322 (talk) 03:09, 20 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Which you were and still are. Accusing anyone of wikilawywering is an assumption of bad faith if they are simply referring to policy. Go to DRV and good luck to you. Spartaz Humbug! 03:34, 20 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Outlines vs list problem

There's more here. -- Brangifer (talk) 14:38, 20 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

Hi Spartaz, thanks for picking up this move for me, as I was busy trying to tidy up and understand some of the mess before I went to work this morning. Appreciated. Khukri 16:07, 20 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

RFA spam

Thank you for participating in WP:Requests for adminship/Kww 3
Sometimes, being turned back at the door isn't such a bad thing
—Kww(talk) 18:26, 20 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Um what?

Parties don't decide the outcome of an RfC/U. 6 opinions were expressed, not including mine; 3 were certifying parties so their opinions do not constitute final "acceptance around this close", and their talk page comments indicate issues with that close also. Beyond that, Peregrine Fisher has objected, and so have I as someone uninvolved. For you to then come along and revert with the frivolous reason "you have no right to come and change it without further discussion just because yu want to do it a different way" is grossly unacceptable. Please self revert. Finally, Beeblebrox's close is a comment or view, and I can quote Fut Perf's RfC/U as a precedent for that [4]. What can you use as precedent? That's right; there is none - your action is clouded by poor judgement. Ncmvocalist (talk) 15:01, 21 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

And neither are you - the consensus did not favour that close; it came about from the motion to close. Whether you are an admin or established editor, your refusal to self-revert is unseemly and certainly not in line with consensus-based editing. Again, please self-revert before someone else reverts for you. Ncmvocalist (talk) 15:39, 21 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The close stood for two days and then you came along and changed it without seeking a new consensus on the change. Feel free to find a consensus by proposing a closing test but there was next to no activity in that talk page before you came along and arbiterily changed it. Tell you what. I'll revert myself if you them immediately revert what you did. Spartaz Humbug! 15:42, 21 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Silence does not constitute a consensus, Spartaz. There is evidence of disagreement on the talk page from a couple of days ago. Similarly, no participation does not constitute agreement to close the dispute by the parties - if you actually cared to check the guidelines on closing RFC/U. So let's see - your action is not supported by the guidelines or any previous practice. Your own arbitrary say-so? Is this your general approach, or am I just incredibly lucky to see it for myself? In the meantime, yet another user who wanted to comment was unable to do so. Ncmvocalist (talk) 15:56, 21 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
What gives you the right to determine the consensus for the close there? Spartaz Humbug! 15:58, 21 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
But apparently you do? I'm amazed by your logic. Anyway, Protonk seems to sum it up well. Ncmvocalist (talk) 16:11, 21 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Before this spirals out of hand I've started a thread on the talk page suggesting that we just have a non-narrative close in order to put a bullet in this thing. I'm decidedly not married to the previous narrative close and I bet plenty of people would prefer a close with no statement (or would be indifferent between the two). Honestly its not worth the bother. Protonk (talk) 16:05, 21 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Spartaz shrugs his shoulders and wanders away. At least its being discussed now... Spartaz Humbug! 23:23, 21 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Please see Phatchance discussion

Hi Spartaz, please see additions to the Phatchance discussion on your talk :), thank you Stevezimmy (talk) 06:19, 23 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Rolling back

Do you need some help? Tim Song (talk) 06:57, 23 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

AfD close

Hi Spartaz, just a comment/question about this AfD close. I fully agree with closing as merge (obviously, since I commented there), but the target to merge to, Tupac Shakur, is quite problematic. The "album" The Lost Tapes: Circa 1989 simply does not bear mentioning in Tupac's bio—it was a bootleg which was quickly taken off the shelves, and it currently is not even mentioned in our article Tupac Shakur discography, much less in his biography. I proposed a merge target of Beginnings: The Lost Tapes 1988–1991 which is the name this album received when it was officially released 7 years later with the permission of Tupac's estate. It seems pretty clear to me that that is where any useful information should go, and that anyone who searches for "The Lost Tapes: Circa 1989" (which is actually not an unlikely search—it's damn well impossible to underestimate the fanaticism of some Tupac aficionados!) should be redirected to Beginnings: The Lost Tapes 1988–1991 where they will learn about the musical content in question, rather than being sent to Tupac Shakur where they will learn nothing (I can't think of any way to mention the bootleg "The Lost Tapes: Circa 1989" in Tupac's bio since it was an unofficial release after he died which has no real bearing on his life or legacy).

There were three merge !votes in the AfD, but to be frank the other two provided no explanation for why they thought the main bio article on Tupac was the appropriate place to merge, and I think the above explanation shows why it's problematic. If you think it's okay to merge/redirect The Lost Tapes: Circa 1989 to Beginnings: The Lost Tapes 1988–1991 then I'll go ahead and do that. Another alternative is to contact the two other editors who supported merging and see if they have a problem with sending the content over to the album article rather than the bio. --Bigtimepeace | talk | contribs 15:49, 23 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Disgusted by antiitalianism

I am disgusted by the antiitalianism behind the decision to delete Maltese Italians (I write this not against you personally). The usual trick of accusing an Italian of sockpuppetry has obtained the usual result of erasing an article that has been 1) changed totally from the initial version;2) changed the name (the last name was "Pro-Italian Maltese");3) two or three times times requested to move or delete. Wikipedia needs articles showing all the areas of encyclopedia knowledge, not only those contrary to the Italian people in their historical/geographical Italian region. Indeed there were plenty of valid and useful references in the article just erased. User:Demdem, the one who masterminded the vote against the article, showed HATE even toward his own people, only because they wanted to unite Malta to Italy. He even forced to retire a Maltese Italian who wanted to save the article (see user:Maltalia). Do you believe this is a fair attitude? Sorry, but it is NOT of an encyclopedia to be one-sided. And Wikipedia should not be in the hands of groups that do meatpuppetry and accuse even a simple wife of a banned user, like me, of doing sockpuppetry in order to get advantage and erase the articles they don't like. I repeat: I don't write this against you personally. God bless you.--Mrs.Maria (talk) 20:25, 23 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Quantum Electromagnetic Resonator

Hello. Just a heads-up that Quantum Electromagnetic Resonator still exists, despite the rest of the articles listed in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Selfconsistent gravidynamic constants vanishing. I realize you're under a bit of stress, but if you could spare the time over the next few days to finish wrapping up the AfD, it'd be appreciated. Have a nice halloween! --Christopher Thomas (talk) 05:49, 26 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Quantum LC circuit

I am a bit mystified on your justification for deleting quantum LC circuit. The deletion debate you referenced did not propose this article for deletion. While the AfD listed a large number of associated articles for deletion, this was not one of them, in fact, it was specifically cited as a potential target for redirects of other articles. SpinningSpark 08:50, 26 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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