User talk:Yobot/Archive 1

nested=yes?

I noticed Yobot has been going through many pages to remove "nested=yes" from banners in WPBS, but I can't seem to find the approval for this task. Anomie⚔ 15:09, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

...I was just about to say the same thing... Matt (talk) 21:00, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Unlike the above, I'm not worried about the approval, I'm just curious how this removal lets the nesting remain, which I'd like to know how to do StarM 22:57, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

To all: I already replied in my talk page and in Anomie's talk page. Anyway, nested is a useless parameter but other bots already remove it more efficiently as an addition to other jobs. To StarM, now WPBS enables nesting automatically and that;s the reason the parameter can be removed. -- Magioladitis (talk)

Got it, thanks. Don't think (or a t least I didn't know) it was automagic before. StarM 23:38, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Pointless edits?

In edits such as this one, Yobot has worked solely to replace the {{bio}} template redirect with the {{WPBiography}} target and put line spacing in the template. These edits seem counterproductive per WP:NOTBROKEN's description and seem to be merely fixing a problem which never existed in the first place. Is there any real benefit from these types of edits at all? Sillyfolkboy (talk) (edits)^{WIKIPROJECT ATHLETICS NEEDS YOU!} 00:11, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

• I agree - here is a new edit that doesn't make sense: a banner about adhering to the policy about biographies of living persons. The only biographies in the article are about A. and B. Alexandrov, who are both dead, are not controviersial figures, are not criticised figures, and are well-sourced. Everyone else in the article is merely named, and there is no controversial or critical material on the page. There has been neither controversial biographical material nor criticism of individuals here in the past. What is the point of the banner?--Storye book (talk) 15:49, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

This article it's about an active muscial group and alive people are getting involved. So, it was to be tagged with {{blp}}. -- Yobot (talk) 15:57, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

substitution of BD

AFAIK categories of death and births must be the last in the list, because they are least significant. - Altenmann >t 17:13, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

There is no ordering for categorisation. Unless, you have a link with a new policy that I am not aware of. -- Magioladitis (talk) 19:11, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

External links: clean up and adding Category:Year of birth missing (living people) using AWB

Hi there. Interesting edit [1], but Category:Year of birth missing (living people) hasn't been added or am I missing something? --Edcolins (talk) 12:08, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Category:Year of birth missing (living people) is already present in the article, so Yobot just removed the unnecessary category. -- Magioladitis (talk) 12:17, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Alright, thanks for the reply. I hadn't noticed the category, as it is hidden (I didn't even know that was possible...). --Edcolins (talk) 12:34, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

No problem. All Year of... categories are hidden (it's possible to create hidden categories in Wikipedia!) -- Magioladitis (talk) 13:23, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

It is a mistake to try to shoehorn traditional Arabic names into the European naming scheme of inherited surnames...

This bot is inappropriately trying to shoehorn articles about individuals with Arabic names into the European style of inherited lastname-surnames. Here is an example.

This is extremely inappropriate -- and damaging. Other bots assume that the "listas" parameter can be relied upon -- was place there by a knowledgeable human being. Geo Swan (talk) 15:51, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Yobot is not adding listas. This is only the first edit of a string of edits where I usually press the bottom to begin. -- Magioladitis (talk) 16:04, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

I don't understand your reply. The diff I supplied shows that the Yobot edit added an inappropriate listas parameter. Geo Swan (talk) 16:20, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Yobot is not dealing with listas but with living. I usually load a list and I am testing the first 1-2 edits manually before doing automatically edits. KingbotK plugin adds listas automatically if it is in manual mode. It seems I pressed OK without thinking. So, it won't be more than 2 edits where Yobot added listas. -- Yobot (talk) 17:12, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Bot bug regarding Category:Possibly living people

The bot replaced Category:Possibly living people with Category:Year of death missing for two cases of persons born in 1900: Walter Matthews‎ and Charles Richard. There was no source or indication thate these people have died, and the possibly living category remains valid for birthdates of 1887 or later. Dl2000 (talk) 15:11, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

You are right about the lower bound (1887). That's why, as you may see, I prefered Possibly Living people instead of Year of death missing in most cases. (I did the edits manually to better control the situation). Is supposed for these two individuals if there are still alive they would be noted in List of Canadian supercentenarians. Now, that I reconsidering it that was a mistake. Sorry for that. Magioladitis -- Yobot (talk) 15:30, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Living People error

Yobot added Luqman Ali to the Category:Living people even though the article states that Ali died on August 19, 2007. Systems polk (talk) 20:45, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for reporting. Article was in Living people category because of false use of Lifetime. Not Yobot's error. I fixed it. Please fro this kinf of inconsistencies use User talk:Magioladitis instead of this page. Thanks, Yobot (talk) 20:50, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Lifetime

Why is Yobot replacing lifetime with DEFAULTSORT and categories, is there any consensus for these changes? Martin451 (talk) 00:09, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Yobot is still replacing {{lifetime}} with {{DEFAULTSORT}} and the categories that {{lifetime}} generates automatically. This is contrary to guidelines and consensus. Please stop doing this. JimCubb (talk) 18:30, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

There is a discussion in Template talk:Lifetime where Rich explains. -- Magioladitis (talk) 18:52, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

If you're going to make useless edits...

like this one, why not remove the template when there's nothing but other templates? --NE2 22:09, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

… and here. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 07:21, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

Nice idea. I'll continue from my normal account. IMO, the main problem is that talkheader is not moved on the top due to some AWB bug. -- Magioladitis (talk) 22:17, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

My plan was to make all the cleanups written in WP:TPL at once. But due to bugs of AWB it's impossible right now. During this process I reported 5 (five) bugs. This replacement it was like step 1. I'll continue manually and not automatic mainly due to a serious bug and of course due to the things you just noticed. -- Magioladitis (talk) 22:34, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Bot needs immediate attention

Your bot has made the following edit without any basis that I can see. Perhaps the bot needs to be stopped until it can be refined to ensure that this does not happen again.-- Mattinbgn\^talk 02:13, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

I found the problem. This articles is in Category:Melbourne gangland killings which is under Category:Murdered mobsters i.e. dead people. I fixed it. This is mainly the problem of confusion between an article and a category with the same name. The article involves murdered mobsters and it's correctly categorised but the category should not sub-categorised with this way. Thanks for reporting and sorry for this mistake. Sometimes subcategories slip over. -- Yobot (talk) 06:54, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

nested=yes again?

You're making edits to remove "nested=yes" again to no purpose and without approval. Anomie⚔ 20:20, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

I left the home on hurry and I left AWB turned on. :( My apologies. -- Magioladitis (talk) 22:27, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

As {{WPBS}} has not needed |nested= to function since very early this year and {{WPB}}, in its original form, never needed it, why should |nested= not be removed? JimCubb (talk) 01:31, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Anomie means that should not be removed exclusively and massively because this will trigger a lot of watchlists. If you are doing more on the talk page, for example adding listas, you should remove nested. Right now Yobot is removing nested while adding living. -- Magioladitis (talk) 07:52, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Let's see if I have this right. Yobot is adding a value to |living= which is absolutely necessary and should have been done when the page was created and is removing the |nested= if the parameter is there because |nested= is no longer needed.

The addition of the value to |living= would trigger the watchlists. It should serve as a message to the editors that something was wrong with the page they were watching. Unfortunately, from what I have seen, most will merely complain that there are too many changes to articles on their watchlists.

JimCubb (talk) 21:09, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

You are right, just sometimes Yobot is just removing nested without adding living. I requested a modification of AWB to get it right. Thanks for your comments. Please in the future use my talk page and not this one. Have a nice day. -- Magioladitis (talk) 21:54, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Changing Date of birth missing cat

Hello. Yobot has been changing Category:Date of birth missing to Category:Date of birth missing (living people) on the talk page of subjects in the Category:Possibly living people, e.g. on Jimmy Robertson (footballer born 1910). In such cases, according to the description at Category:Date of birth missing (living people), this is wrong and just Category:Date of birth missing is correct. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 08:53, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

I 'll do one more run to fix these. They should not be many. Thanks, Yobot (talk) 08:56, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Number of bad edits

This bot has been replacing {{Lifetime}} templates and has made a mess of a lot of articles, some of them including: Fandy Mochtar, Dominique Jean-Zéphirin, Donald Thobega, Christopher Bryan. -- BigDom 20:43, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

It's being fixed. -- Magioladitis (talk) 20:44, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

JamshidAwal

Hi there I believe you have disputed the neutrality my article about hon.Ali Mirzad. I agree with your findings and did the necessary edits . please remove your Dispute Stamp at your earliest convenience. thank you --JamshidAwal (talk) 08:21, 31 December 2009 (UTC)