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I prefer if you respond on my talk page; I will probably respond on yours. Please let me know if you want otherwise.
Well, first of all thanks for notifying me. Second, let me make sure I understood you correctly. You do not like that I made the template to categorized a particular industry for the country. I thought that can be as a quick short cut for people who are interested in the industry of that country. Of course, one can use the category tab to navigate across the selections, but the template was created for convenience, primarily. I agree that it is not being followed to finish the project. I thought that some one familiar with subject will help me out with that project. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 06:20, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
Template state
Hi Koavf. I've noticed on several templates for film directors that you've replaced the state of collapsed with autocollapse. This might be a stupid question - but what's the difference between the two?! Thanks. Lugnuts (talk) 09:55, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks for the reply. I've noticed that 2 or more templates autocollapse anyway. Or maybe it's because I'm viewing this with Firefox and not IE. Lugnuts (talk) 18:07, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
I've reverted your move of 's Up to 'S Up for the time being - you can't go ahead and move that page while we're still discussing a related move elsewhere. The two pages should clearly match each other, nobody's arguing that, so let's wait for the move discussion to complete. Thanks Interplanet Janet (talk) 10:14, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
Sort
I see you are not touching stuff like the Super Bowl articles, why don't you go around changing the default sort on those? Or the Arena Bowl articles, or every other similar one? TJ Spyke 20:12, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
- I'm not going too because I think the current sorting is better. I just wanted to point out that you weren't going after these much bigger targets. TJ Spyke 20:41, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
mysterious TfDs
As Dekkappai has pointed out to me on my talk page, here and here you've announced on templates that they're nominated for deletion and in their warning templates unambiguously linked to TfD debate pagelets that . . unfortunately aren't there. Are they located elsewhere, or did you perhaps forget to make them?
Please be considerate to the hardworking Dekkappai -- who worriedly writes "Oh dear, does this mean I'll have to write an article on the sequel to Horse and Woman and Dog?" -- by explaining the matter not here, not on my talk page, but rather on his. Thank you! -- Hoary (talk) 00:56, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
- Hi, Koavf. I'm curious why you aren't withdrawing the deletion nominations for the Japanese directors. Your concern, as far as I can tell, was that there were only 2-3 films on the templates. Most have 4 now, some 5, one (I think) 6... and growing... Isn't the concern invalid now? Dekkappai (talk) 19:29, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
- I don't think I can withdraw for you-- I wouldn't do it if I could. Anyway, I don't mind starting the film articles. I had them in mind from when the templates were made, but got distracted to other projects... I'll just forge ahead for now, and you can look into them when you can. Pretty sure they'll close as "Keep" either way, if they've got 5 or more anyway. Regards. Dekkappai (talk) 19:45, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
Do the Mashed Potatoes, etc
- Of the 3 new move requests with the brackets in: 2 had just been discussed, and the other was leading to "oppose". "(Do the) Mashed Potatoes" means "'Do the Mashed Potatoes' or 'Mashed Potatoes'", and neither form needs "The"; similarly the other 2 move requests. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 07:28, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
ICMLPO (IN)
The Maoist ICMLPO publishes a magasine called "International newsletter". I think removing the word "International" from the article's title was wrong. -- Magioladitis (talk) 08:35, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks Is the newsletter itself called "International Newsletter"? If so, the name of the article should probably be "International Newsletter (nternational Conference of Marxist–Leninist Parties and Organizations)". I'm a bit confused. Thanks. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 13:16, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
- The conference is called International Conference of Marxist–Leninist Parties and Organizations and they publish a newsletter called "International Newsletter". The article is about the conference.
Btw, there is another International Conference of Marxist–Leninist Parties and Organizations, consisted of completelly different parties. They publish a magasine called "Unity and Struggle". -- Magioladitis (talk) 13:33, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
- Okay You clearly know more about this matter than I do, so I will leave it up to your better judgement. Sorry if I caused any headaches. Note that the main article is at "Marxism–Leninism" (with an ndash) not at "Marxism-Leninism" (with a hyphen), so this article's title should reflect that convention per WP:DASH. Consequently, you shouldn't have any problems moving it. Again, thanks for your time and sorry that I made you post here in the first place. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 13:37, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
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EndTimes
I'd be happy to work with you on improving the article. Thanks for the feedback, Justin. - LiveWire Legendtalk23:28, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
Patsy Cline EPs category
It doesn't matter to me whether the category name is changed or not. I actually just realized not too long that the term "EP"'s should not be used when referring to them, but instead "extended plays" like you mentioned. Thanks for asking me though =) Dottiewest1fan (talk) 03:43, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
Abbreviations in category titles
Though there doesn't seem to be any written rule that category names should match their corresponding article titles, that does seem to be the consensus of many CfD regulars; and I don't have a problem with it. However care should be taken when treating list categories as corresponding to topic articles. To take an example that you haven't come to yet, Category:DIWA-listed wetlands is for categories listed in A Directory of Important Wetlands in Australia. When reliable sources talk about the directory, they refer to it by its full name, A Directory of Important Wetlands in Australia. But when reliable sources discuss wetlands that are listed in the Directory, they invariably follow the established convention of calling them Directory wetlands, DIWA wetlands, or DIWA-listed wetlands. In accordance with the fundamental naming rule that we follow usage in reliable sources, the topic title should be the full name A Directory of Important Wetlands in Australia, but a corresponding list ought to be at something like List of DIWA wetlands. And the category, being a list category, actually corresponds to the latter not the former. Therefore I would argue that both A Directory of Important Wetlands in Australia and Category:DIWA-listed wetlands are properly titled, despite their failure to correspond.
This situation is not all that uncommon. I think the same applied to Interim Biogeographic Regionalisation for Australia / Category:IBRA regions; Integrated Marine and Coastal Regionalisation of Australia / Category:IMCRA regions; Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers / Category:IEEE standards; etc.
Hesperian 04:33, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
- One of the major issues with the categories is how they clutter articles extrapolating out from initials is only going to add to the clutter, I can see obvious reason for doing this where there is ambiguarity. I've also had personal correspondence questioning whether the large scale of nominations has another purpose my answer was to WP:AGF. Gnangarra 06:59, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
- Another purpose? Do you have one in mind? —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 07:04, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
- At least a few trout slaps and a sharp and violent metaphorical kick in a few places - in view of your acknowledged boredom with life [1] has created some very stupid conversations - (some would see that as a conspiracy) ... In one computer based firm that I once worked with - lunches with alcohol and or boredom and the supervisor would send employees home with pay rather than let them go anywhere near a keyboard
- But nevertheless you have some supporters - but I would doubt the wisdom of the guideline in the face of some of the 'expansions' you have promoted SatuSuro 23:26, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
- btw a very happy birthday if you user page is correct!
- - I dont support the conspiracy idea if you read my message i picked up on your bored comment to occuli - which is very telling - and I honestly consider some of your proposals close to stupid - but hey at least it sorts out what I also consider a stupid guideline - at least it has alerted who are also 'expand the acronym pedants' - there is a very clear case for case my case consideration against blanket usage of a guideline SatuSuro 23:49, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
TfD
Are you running some sort of bot to auto-list templates for deletion or something? Because your rationale doesn't make sense, and is identical for a tonne of templates. If not, I think your latest batch is suffering from a lack of examination. If you are running a bot, I suggest you examine the templates first, and fit the rationale to the template.
I know that you're a good user, since I've seen your work, so don't take this criticism the wrong way.
Take care.
70.29.210.242 (talk) 11:10, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
- Well, I keep seeing you saying that templates are "broken", but when I examine them, they work fine. That's why I was wondering if you were automating the nominations. The first one that set me thinking was the nomination of the preload template for the article creation wizard. Since it's a substitution template, it would be unused, and as an article creation preload, it would look broken, because it's not designed to be used, it's a framework to be editted to a form that could be used. This lead me to examine the other nominations that you called broken, for the last few days, and alot of them appear to not be broken at all. I examined the template coding, template talk pages (since older templates place their documentation there), and any transclusions. 70.29.210.242 (talk) 09:30, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
- No problemo. 70.29.210.242 (talk) 20:27, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
How do I unlist my template for deletion? This table uses this template quite heavily. Jrkenti (talk) 19:57, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
- How can I ensure that the page is not deleted? Quickly or Slowly? Jrkenti (talk) 20:32, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
Alt text for concert tour
I've done it, see your help posting also User:Redrose64/Sandbox6. You need to use different fields though, see documentation. --Redrose64 (talk) 20:51, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
Saved book sorting
BTW, I saw this discussion. Just so you know, {{saved book}} now has a |sort_as= parameter. So you can use that to overide automatic sorting. Headbomb {ταλκκοντριβς – WP Physics} 22:08, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
Redirect
No problem at all. Thanks for being thorough.Ulmanor (talk) 00:16, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
Dash page moves
Hello Koavf, are you really sure that dashes instead of hyphens are correct for German federal-states, e.g. here and there? At least in German language hyphens are regularly used, cf. #7 ("Zusammensetzungen gleichberechtigter Eigennamen" = conjunction of equal proper nouns) … --:bdk: 01:04, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
- Re [2]:
- Well, I read WP:MOS, hyphen and also hyphenated names ;-) I can't see any formal difference between surnames and these state names which all have a sort of "marriage" in their history, e.g. Mecklenburg-Vorpommern was formed through the merger of Mecklenburg and Vorpommern. And the spaced dash in "North Rhine – Westphalia" looks even more strange *g*. Anyway, I'll post a question on Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style as you recommended. --:bdk: 01:34, 27 February 2010 (UTC)