Talk:Norway

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Location maps available for infoboxes of European countries

On the WikiProject Countries talk page, the section Location Maps for European countries had shown new maps created by David Liuzzo, that are available for the countries of the European continent, and for countries of the European Union exist in two versions. From November 16, 2006 till January 31, 2007, a poll had tried to find a consensus for usage of 'old' or of which and where 'new' version maps. Please note that since January 1, 2007 all new maps became updated by David Liuzzo (including a world locator, enlarged cut-out for small countries) and as of February 4, 2007 the restricted licence that had jeopardized their availability on Wikimedia Commons, became more free. At its closing, 25 people had spoken in favor of either of the two presented usages of new versions but neither version had reached a consensus (12 and 13), and 18 had preferred old maps.
As this outcome cannot justify reverting of new maps that had become used for some countries, seconds before February 5, 2007 a survey started that will be closed soon at February 20, 2007 23:59:59. It should establish two things:

• whether the new style maps may be applied as soon as some might become available for countries outside the European continent (or such to depend on future discussions),
• which new version (with of without indicating the entire European Union by a separate shade) should be applied for which countries.

Please read the discussion (also in other sections α, β, γ, δ, ε, ζ, η, θ) and in particular the arguments offered by the forementioned poll, while realizing some comments to have been made prior to updating the maps, and all prior to modifying the licences, before carefully reading the presentation of the currently open survey. You are invited to only then finally make up your mind and vote for only one option.
There mustnot be 'oppose' votes; if none of the options would be appreciated, you could vote for the option you might with some effort find least difficult to live with - rather like elections only allowing to vote for one of several candidates. Obviously, you are most welcome to leave a brief argumentation with your vote. Kind regards. — SomeHuman 00:28, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Replace picture of musk ox with moose

I think the picture of a musk ox, in the nature section, is a misrepresentation of Norway's ecology. In Norway it is a rather rare animal. Also, it is not indigenous, but has been imported. I suggest replacing the picture of the musk ox with something more iconic. The moose, which is far more common, and dare I say, a revered animal in Norwegian culture, would be much more fitting. The Bigbullmoose.jpg image in the Wikimedia Commons archive would be fitting, I think. --158.36.200.219 (talk) 12:21, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

Agree. Musk ox is very rare in Norway. Moose is common in pretty much all areas of the mainlaind. Other possibilites: sea eagle (white-tailed eagles), reindeer, killer whale, red fox, polar bear (only on Svalbard, though), puffins. Orcaborealis (talk) 15:17, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

Rare as they may be. I believe they are nevertheless considered iconic to the Norwegian fauna, and as such I think the image can be defended. __meco (talk) 11:25, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Orthographic projection map

There should be a orthographic projection type map for Norway. 83.108.194.198 (talk) 11:51, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

Why do we need that? __meco (talk) 14:34, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

Because it looks a lot better and will improve the article significantly. Besides, most articles about countries on WP uses it. 83.108.194.198 (talk) 22:19, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

The Europe map is used in literally all articles on European countries other than Russia. I think Norway's article should be in line with this de facto practice. Moreover, I don't think Norway's geographical area is nearly big enough. - SSJ ☎ 00:15, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

The Norwegian Dictatorship

I've checked the sources for the the clam to be the best country to live in, and no such ranking are referred to in the sources.

As for Norway being a dictatorship, Norwegian government are currently working on a law making it illegal to criticize governmental employee, and Norwegian government are also currently working on a new law making illegal to post and document child abuse done by governmental employee. Dictatorship is the removal of freedom of speech and the rights to oppose illegal activity by the government. As such Norway IS by definition a dictatorship. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.149.222.38 (talk) 12:03, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

The "best country to live in" claim, is rooted in the United Nations Development Programme (UNDP). Look up the Human Development Index for details. The statement itself is fairly subjective, and I'd say isn't warranted in a Wikipedia article, even though it does seem to be a popular phrasing in a number of international news publications.

A dictatorship is an autocratic state ruled by a single individual, or small group. Norway is a monarchy, and a democracy; ruled by an executive, a legislative and a judicial branch. Don't mistake commenting on a Wikipedia article, with your own political agenda. --Pinkopf (talk) 11:33, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

I've read the latest UNDP-report used to claim support for the claim by Norway that Norway is the "best country to live in", but no such statement actually exists in the report. The report only state clearly that Norway was the most developed country at the time, but the term developed doesn't necessarily support the claim of "best country to live in". That claim is just propaganda made up by Norwegian government and media as it is not supported by UNDP. --38.119.107.110 (talk) 22:15, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

The report is mainly created to see which are the worst countries, and many independent commentators even in Norway have said that the report is not made for, nor able to be scientifically used to differentiate seriously between the "best" countries on the list. The claim of "best country to live in" is mainly used by (tabloid?) newspapers to achieve a great newsstory and propaganda, as most newspapers in Norway are leftist and thus want to make our leftist government look good. User:Gabagool/sig 01:55, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

By "leftist government" you mean The Dictator Comrades? --90.149.222.38 (talk) 13:57, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Lead

The lead of this article is far too long, and it should be a relatively concise summary of the article's contents. Wikipedia:Lead section#Length suggests that an article of this size should have a lead of three to four paragraphs. An idea would be to move the less crucial information into the appropriate sections. Suggestions? Hayden120 (talk) 11:39, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

Nevermind, I've made a few changes (please see the edit history) and it is now four paragraphs long, as suggested by Wikipedia:Lead section#Length for an article of this length. Hayden120 (talk) 04:32, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Economy of Norway

I don't think this article needs that huge block on the right in the economy section. The article that shares the name has that big block, and it really narrows that section of text along with all of the pictures, which also appear in the economy of Norway article.Rip-Saw (talk) 09:19, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, it's an unnecessary duplication of the infobox on the main article, Economy of Norway. It's best to keep the detailed information on the specific articles, therefore I have removed it from this one. Best regards, Hayden120 (talk) 03:50, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

The following needs clarification

Around 1975, both the proportion and absolute number of workers in industry peaked. Since then labour intensive industries and services like factory mass production and shipping have largely been "off sourced". As an English speaker, there is no such idiomatic phrase as Off Sourced - it should either be changed to Outsourced, or Offshored. Both have a different meaning, so could someone please update this (I don't have the knowledge to pick the correct one). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.219.78.211 (talk) 07:35, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

links

I would like to add http://www.norway.plonczak.pl

Added by paczek_1@o2.pl —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.188.143.122 (talk) 13:07, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

There is a lot of photos of Norway. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.188.143.122 (talk) 09:16, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

akershus doesnt have anything to do with oslo

akershus is its own area. it even have its own ticket system for buses as well as trains. though coupon cards from akershus can be used in both areas. cards from oslo only works in oslo. i know that some people may have been confused. i however can clear it up. oslo is a single traveling zone while akershus is many more. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.208.72.121 (talk) 20:09, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

This is partially true, as of June some time(at work now, can't look up exactly when) last year they have rolled out Flexus, which is infact a unified ticket system for Oslo and Akershus, though I do support the fact that Akershus is a seperate area(with it's own local govermental institutions etc.), but on the note of Public Transportation, they have very much to do with each other as both areas have their public transportation systems operated by NSB and Ruter.

In regard to that Oslo is listed as Oslo/Akershus under largest cities is also correct as most of "Stor Oslo" is outside of Oslo county. 193.189.241.36 (talk) 12:51, 25 May 2010 (UTC)