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notable
very much a news item and public figure
--Gebl Gebl Gebl (talk) 19:53, 24 April 2009 (UTC)]
- Comment He clearly meets notability for multiple events from multiple reliable sources. Whether one likes him or not, he has already become notable. Thanks. Ism schism (talk) 16:06, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
- Indeed but some must wonder why an editor (user:Gebl Gebl Gebl) would start an article w/o editing further after his claimed notability and is leaving it to others to either expand or AFD it. I'll give it [the article] a chance and will follow it to see how far it can be "crafted".--The Magnificent Clean-keeper (talk) 07:19, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
- GGG only created it as a redirect. I started it as an actual article. - Peregrine Fisher (talk) (contribs) 15:44, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
- Indeed but some must wonder why an editor (user:Gebl Gebl Gebl) would start an article w/o editing further after his claimed notability and is leaving it to others to either expand or AFD it. I'll give it [the article] a chance and will follow it to see how far it can be "crafted".--The Magnificent Clean-keeper (talk) 07:19, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
- Ah, thanks. I should've paid more attention to the edit history before asking a stupid question :) --The Magnificent Clean-keeper (talk) 19:12, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
- article is shaping up nicely --Gebl Gebl Gebl (talk) 14:43, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
- Comment He has contributed nothing significant to society. He merely is famous for being the father of an illegitimate child with the daughter of a former VP candidate. This does not make him worthy of a Wikipedia article. He is not even currently in a relationship with said daughter so he is not technically part of the family. While it is true that he has posed as a model for a magazine, like him or not, there are many people who have done so and not yet received Wikipedia articles.
He is not a significant person. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.209.211.79 (talk) 07:19, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
- He's notable because he's been the subject of a ton of news coverage over a sustained period. Propaniac (talk) 14:29, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
Wow.
I suggested this page to highlight the absurdity of the deletionists' arguments. I'm amazed (but not disappointed) to see it up and running. — Bdb484 (talk) 17:23, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
- Boo. — Bdb484 (talk) 18:34, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
The part of the article about Levi's myspace information has been deleted
This should be put back in the article:
On September 1, 2008, Sarah Palin announced that her daughter Bristol had gotten knocked up by Johnston, and that the two would be having a shotgun wedding. [1]
However, according to a September 1, 2008 article in the New York Post, Johnston had stated on his myspace page, which has since been taken down, "I don't want kids." The same article also quoted Johnston's myspace page as saying, "I'm a f - - -in' redneck... Ya f - - - with me I'll kick [your] ass."[2]
After Sarah Palin lost the election, the wedding was called off. [3]
Grundle2600 (talk) 17:25, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
- I don't think some immature rambling he left on myspace before he knew he was going to be a public figure should be recorded in this fashion here. There might be an argument for something like "he once described himself as a "redneck" on his myspace page" though i'm not concinved of that yet. The "knocked up" language was thoroughly innapropriate. At any rate, i'm opposed for now. Let's see what others have to say.Bali ultimate (talk) 17:29, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
- "He once described himself as a redneck", that's complete bullshit, what is this 8th grade TAKS? ~ Craig — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.122.233.242 (talk • contribs) 09:50, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
- There was a MySpace page in his name, but we couldn't even consider referring to it unless we had a reliable source that it was in fact his page. I thought he or someone said that friends of his had put it up as a joke. JamesMLane t c 08:55, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
His rant has no point of being in the article, no other public figure has back and forth transcripts of disputes. It is unprofessional and petty to include such things on Wikipedia.
title
Whats up with "Impregnation of Sarah Palin's daughter"? She has a name, Bristol. Is there any particular reason we aren't using it?
And I think "pregnancy" rather then "impregnation" would be more appropriate. This article is more about the controversy of the actual pregnancy, not the actual conception which the title seems to imply. --Pstanton (talk) 17:36, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
- This was just unilaterally moved from "Levi Johnston". I'm trying to figure out how to move back, but may need admin assistance. Bristol Palin is currently a protected redirect, which may change soon, but is currently out of play.Bali ultimate (talk) 17:37, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
- I tried too but it said that I needed Admin assistance. There was NO reason to move this article, and I hope an admin takes a look at this issue. TharsHammar Bits andPieces 17:39, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
- I've sought admin assistance here [2]. Bali ultimate (talk) 17:44, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
- This needs to be moved back. Any rename will require a thorough discussion. - Peregrine Fisher (talk) (contribs) 17:57, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
- I've sought admin assistance here [2]. Bali ultimate (talk) 17:44, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
- I tried too but it said that I needed Admin assistance. There was NO reason to move this article, and I hope an admin takes a look at this issue. TharsHammar Bits andPieces 17:39, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
In-depth coverage
This (which I reached from HuffPo, which I reached from Wonkette) is coverage so deep (or anyway verbose) that I gave up after three or so screenfuls. But what I bothered to read had a certain bizarre fascination even for me. Someone into slebs would derive a lot from it. -- Hoary (talk) 14:31, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
- Very funny piece. "Antichrist to some, slab of sweet Arctic man-beef to others" was my favorite line. There might be some useful stuff in there but, like you, i didn't read to the end.Bali ultimate (talk) 14:42, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
- The GQ piece was written by noted author John Jeremiah Sullivan. At 17 pages, there is most certain items of use in there, particularly about Johnston's family. --Oakshade (talk) 21:59, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
Ricky Hollywood Redirect?
I'm thinking that we should create a redirect for "Ricky Hollywood" here since his new manager has suggested that Levi is going to adopt Ricky Hollywood as his stage name in his future career in the Entertainment Industry. But since I have never created a redirect before could someone else take care of it? The Fading Light (talk) 06:07, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
Johnston left high school early + works for a fishing company?
I don't want to be mean or anything, but why is it never mentioned anywhere in this article that Levi Johnston is supposedly a high school dropout who fritters away his days holding down a job at a fishing/canning company? Now, there's no word from Levi himself on this (at least not that I've seen? heard? read?), but various notable news organizations have claimed that he was on the football team in high school, only to drop out (not sure when he did). Should this be added to the article? ★Dasani★ 01:44, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
- If you can come if with a source, we can add it. - Peregrine Fisher (talk) (contribs) 03:04, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
External links section
I had removed 3 links per WP:EL since the sites are only indirectly related to the subject of the article. Can the material presented in the links be incorporated into the article if appropriate/noteworthy enough for inclusion in the main body of the article? I will not revert for now. Thanks, --Tom (talk) 22:07, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
LGBT Wikiproject
I have removed the LGBT Wikiproject template from this discussion page. There is nothing in the article that suggests why it should be included, and is probably some form of creative vandalism. Michaelh2001 (talk) 13:56, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
Multiple issues please do not remove tag until they are resolved
Bias
Lack of balance shows from the beginning. The lead says that he feud with the Palins, however, it was a mutual feud. Selective quotes from Johnston are out of context and paint him in an unnecessarily negative light. I will try to correct some of the bias, but will need help from other editors of good faith who want to paint a balanced picture for a BLP 64.38.197.207 (talk) 09:27, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
Cleanup needed
Confusing chronology - article skips all around. Why? The guy is only 19 yo 64.38.197.207 (talk) 09:27, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
Removed cleanup tag - article has been reorganized and rewritten. KeptSouth (talk) 15:13, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
Expansion needed
41 references yet very little content in the article 64.38.197.207 (talk) 09:27, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
- 41 references all mostly say the same stuff: he is the dad of Bristol's kid. He appeared at the Republican campaign. He dropped out of high school. He's "an effing redneck". He's modeling for Playgirl. Not much else to add, except more details from those sources. 75.4.249.152 (talk) 06:15, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
aspiring reality star???
Why does the introduction say he is a 'aspiring reality star'? Under the 'career' area it says he is shopping a memoir around and wanting to become a movie actor, nothing specific about wanting to become an aspiring reality star as his primary career. I'm taking it out... could be a violation of bio, as he is not well known for that above all else. 67.85.194.11 (talk) 22:13, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
- Amusing that you think calling this individual an aspiring reality television star is a potential violation of BLP, but in any case "public figure in politics" is ridiculous. Returned the lead sentence to earlier language supported by the article's text. Tvoz/talk 08:29, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
Example images
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There are a couple of example images at the bottom of the article which need removing.[3] Thanks. --Ibn (talk) 08:58, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
- Done :-) --Commander Keane (talk) 10:30, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
- Woops! Must have been a mouse slip - thanks. –xenotalk 12:56, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
Corbin Fisher
The fact that a job offer was unsolicited does not make it either (a) insignificant esp in light of allegations (b) untrue (c) irrelevant. Given the nature and source of the allegations relevance and significance is clearly established. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.63.115.38 (talk) 20:10, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
- Question: if Levi was offered the job of working for the KKK, and this was verifiable, should we be rushing to add that to the article? --Ibn (talk) 20:28, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
- To be clear: I'm not trying to compare gay porn to white supremacy movements. But the subject of this article has the right to be protected from organisations that are trying to make capital from his fame. --Ibn (talk) 20:39, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
- ^ No Surprises From Palin, McCain Team Says, The Washington Post, September 2, 2008
- ^ Palin admits her 17-year-old daugher is pregnant, New York Post, September 1, 2008
- ^ Alaska: Engagement Is Off for Palin’s Daughter, The New York Times, March 12, 2009
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