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Closing AFDs as Keep

Hi Mo0, I notice you have been using the {{oldafdfull}} template in the appropriate talk pages when closing AFDs; however you are writing date={{CURRENTDAY}} {{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTYEAR}} . As you may have realized, this will always display the current day, not the day you inserted the text. Subst:tituting those template values would work. —Quarl (talk) 2006-01-19 10:11Z

YIKES! Thanks for letting me know about that! I have a tab that automatically puts that template in, so I'll go fix that right away. Thanks for pointing that out! :) Mo0[talk] 17:03, 19 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I figured it was automatically-inserted text. Cheers :) —Quarl (talk) 2006-01-19 18:25Z

User:In Name And Blood

I went to revert User:In Name And Blood's edits, and saw you've already all of them! :) —Quarl (talk) 2006-01-20 08:12Z

Thanks re User:In Name And Blood. He put a lot of work into that didn't he? His earlier edits (Rowan Stewart, filmmaker) seem dodgy too. Asa01 08:15, 20 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Yup, I already nominated Rowan Stewart and Echoes Of Grace for deletion (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rowan Stewart)  :) —Quarl (talk) 2006-01-20 08:19Z

I'm glad you hate my article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.122.182.198 (talk • contribs)

Starwood Hotels & Resorts Worldwide

Hi! You restored the page on "Starwood Hotels & Resorts Worldwide" I saw. I was looking for info on "four points" in New York, looking for information about the gang history in New York as described in the movie Gangs of New York. Result I get is -in my view- a commercial about a hotel chain, carefully put together by I guess hotel staff. I don't think commercials belong in an encyclopedia, do you? That's why I put the "spam" remark on the page, with a wipe of the rest. According to your user page you look like a serious user. So I was wondering about your motivation to keep such a bill-board in an encyclopedia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.169.225.2 (talk • contribs)

It is true that the article currently contains mostly commercially-available information, but it is not an advertisement; and in any case an "advertisement" (non-neutral point of view) would warrant cleaning up the article by removing the bias, not replacing the article with "this is spam". I don't know what "four points" other than the hotel is; if it is an unrelated gang then go ahead and create the article; if it is related then expand on the section, or perhaps create a new article and link to it. Your edit [1] was very unfriendly and borderline vandalism; thanks for explaining your action. In the future you may want to nominate articles for deletion if you think they are unsuitable for Wikipedia. —Quarl (talk) 2006-01-22 19:50Z

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dayboy

Please revisit the discussion. Uncle G 13:34, 21 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I revisited too late, but it's okay because the article was already redirected. BTW I don't think the tone was necessary, as I, and probably the others, did not know it was a duplicate article. —Quarl (talk) 2006-01-22 19:59Z

V7ndotcom Elursrebmem Deletion

Hi, I noticed you voted to on the abovementioned article. Initialy I wanted to keep it, but when I compared it to Nigritude ultramarine and Seraphim proudleduck it seems obvious that all theese articles are repating the same info:

  • It's a search contest
  • It has begin/end dates
  • It has a prize
  • It uses a unique phrase that is not used before

I'd like to urge you to change your vote to Redirect to SEO Contest where I have created already made a copy of the article. This way they dont have "their own article" but they are mentioned in the encyclopedia. Seems like a compromise to me. Right now w/ all the Delete, Keep, And Redirect votes it will be hard to reach a compromise.This user has left wikipedia 22:14, 21 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

NoSeptember's RfA

Thank you, Quarl, for your support of my RfA. If you ever need for anything, please contact me. I will do my best in my new role and welcome your feedback. NoSeptember talk 16:09, 22 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Your JS toolset

Oh wow, that's awesome, you've got lots of good stuff... One quick question... How do I use most of them? Well, for now, How do I use the revert feature? —This user has left wikipedia 04:39 2006-01-23

Nevermind... found, thx again —This user has left wikipedia 04:42 2006-01-23
Hmm, Maybe I should have made a copy to your scripts instead of hotlinking them... I think you broke util.js or wikipage.js =D This user has left wikipedia 05:55, 23 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Fixed Thanks! —This user has left wikipedia 06:17 2006-01-23
Glad it's working now. And I see you're using the AFD shortcuts too? :) Copying might be a good idea, since I've been editing the scripts quite often. If you're not going to edit them you can also use permalinks to my versions. —Quarl (talk) 2006-01-24 12:12Z
I can't edit them unless i fork them. (is that what you meant?) JS files are protected and only editable by the author. On a side note: autocpyvio.js is still misspelled, you are missing an o: autocopyvio.js —This user has left wikipedia 05:07 2006-01-29
I meant copying would be a good idea from a security standpoint (because nobody else can edit them) and from a stability standpoint (I don't promise not to introduce new bugs while fixing old ones). BTW, advanced_sig.js was designed so you wouldn't have to edit it just to customize the signature - you only need to set the variables in monobook.js. —Quarl (talk) 2006-02-01 12:10Z

DADA

To be honest, I do not know anything at all about the fellow. I've just voted delete, btw. I did not remove the content as I assumed Dada was one of the many activists against apartheid. Maybe he was, but not notable clearly. Banez 06:46, 24 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

CCIE page

Nice job. Wikipedia needs more people who are actively working to add value to this site. I'd like to nominate you as a wiki admin if that is okay with you. Pattersonc(Talk) 7:45 PM, Thursday; February 2 2006 (EST)

Thanks for the compliment. I would be interested in being an admin, but I think I should wait a while longer before going through the RFA process. —Quarl (talk) 2006-01-24 12:10Z
Naah, screw it, I'm nominating you anyways. I'll strangle anyone who votes against you with my own bare hands —This user has left wikipedia 19:56 2006-02-01
Wow! I'm just seeing this, thanks to Achille. I forgot to sign my initial post and subsequently my "quick" monitoring system was ineffective. My apologizes but I'm glad Achille picked up my slack. :-) Pattersonc(Talk) 3:40 PM, Wednesday; February 1 2006 (EST)

WP:RFA/JzG Thanks

Please accept my embarrassingly belated thank you for supporting my RfA, which much to my surprise passed 102/1/1, earning me minor notoriety. I am grateful for all the supportive comments, and have already started doing the things people wanted me to be able to do. And hopefully nothing else... Just zis  Guy, you know? [T]/[C] AfD? 12:13, 24 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

RE: John locke sockpuppetry

I noticed that you added additional puppet IPs to the list; I placed a sockpuppetry note on one of the IPs, 82.14.20.98. As it appears that he has ignored the repeated warnings, the only way to stop his continued vandalism may be to temporarily block a range of IPs-- 82.14.* and 82.12.* all resolve to ADSL lines (in Birmingham, UK) at tesco.net, an ISP.

I suspect, based on the subjects he edits and grammar he uses, that this is an adolescent who doesn't know better. He may even be editing on computers at school (likely Liverpool_Blue_Coat_School). The other IP you noted 195.188.141.162 may be a school-friend, based on the even more serious and extensive vandalism, but functionally the same as a sock-puppet; that IP should have been perma-blocked long ago. —LeFlyman 17:14, 24 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

A block of the vandal sounds reasonable. I'm wary of range blocks though, and if it's only those 4 IPs I think it would be enough to just block them individually, at least for now. I agree the last IP (195.188.141.162) could be a meat puppet rather than sock puppet; a vandal in any case. —Quarl (talk) 2006-01-25 00:32Z

Carlos E. Nemer (AfD discussion)

Some references for prof. Carlos Nemer´s work (more will come with time). http://www.eng.uerj.br/deptos/profs.php?id=dein — Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.179.227.158 (talk • contribs)

(see User talk:200.179.227.158 for discussion —Quarl (talk) 2006-01-25 00:19Z)

Dear Quarl, it is not a matter of spaming anyone, there´s no spaming when it comes to defend the truth and it is allways time to open up the mind and consider some peculiarities of each country. In Rio de Janeiro right now is summer and people (academics are on vacation---january is a dead month and nobody will be entering wikipedia to give you more references on that article. That is the way it is around here (while there´s a great winter up there in the northern hemisphere and everybody is delighted with their work).

Hi Quarl, No computer systems go on vacation but it is necessary to have people, human beings to access the programs and make them work, don´t you agree ? and this people (which are suposed to fullfill the necessary references are on vacation having a great time in Rio de Janeiro Brasil (you should come here and have yourself some fun --- forget snowball and skiing for a while man), cheers. Carlos Vieira.

Educational Commission for Foreign Medical Graduates

Hi, I notice you tagged Educational Commission for Foreign Medical Graduates with {{limitedgeographicscope}}. I have removed the tag, because any discussion of a US organisation is necessarily going to be US-centric. If I'm missing something, feel free to hit me with a wet kipper put it back. -- AJR | Talk 19:47, 24 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, looks fine right now. I can't remember what made me tag it anyway :) —Quarl (talk) 2006-01-25 00:07Z

Gender-neutral pronouns

The dis-ambiguation page He considers the use of the pronoun he as gender-neutral to be a meaning, although you don't have it on your template. Clarification?? Georgia guy 00:29, 25 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You're right, hadn't thought of that. I've added He. Thanks! —Quarl (talk) 2006-01-25 04:34Z

List of years in art

Hi. I'm not sure why you say that the "years in art" articles are unmaintainable. They are in line with the years in topic for literature, music, etc. All I'm really doing is filling in blanks that already exist. Deb 12:51, 25 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

(see User talk:Deb for discussion —Quarl (talk) 2006-01-25 18:09Z)

Fair enough, you're entitled to that opinion, but there's no point complaining to me, I'm afraid. If I thought these pages were unmaintainable, I wouldn't be bothering to add to them. (I would have said that anything that is in the past is by its very nature not going to change much in the future.) If you want to see the back of these articles, you need to nominate them for deletion, or raise the topic on an appropriate talk page/policy page. Deb 18:48, 25 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Crisis (band) speedy tagging

I removed your speedy tagging of this band. They appear at allmusic.com and have 4 cds released [2]. All the best, --Durin 14:11, 25 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, thanks. —Quarl (talk) 2006-01-25 17:56Z

List of state leaders in 18 BC

Hi Daanschr, List of state leaders in 18 BC is a superset of List of state leaders in 18BC. If you're interested would you look at what needs to be done in the related articles (List of state leaders in 19 BC etc.)? —Quarl (talk) 2006-01-25 18:03Z

Hi Quarl,
I used the format as presented by the Wikipedia:WikiProject Leaders by year. All BC years there have a spacebar between the numbers and BC. The article List of state leaders in 18BC was probably aimed at being known as List of state leaders in 18 BC, seeing that it refers to article were the spacebar is at the right place.
My sugestion is that both articles are merged by deleting my data and deleting the title with 18BC.--Daanschr 18:30, 25 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, that is the obvious thing to do for that article. Could you also work on all the other years that are missing the data? For example all the years after 18 BC are missing the info. —Quarl (talk) 2006-01-25 18:32Z
I have the impression that only one article is concerned and that is List of state leaders in 18BC. You may change it if you think it is necessary.--Daanschr 20:17, 25 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
It is not only one article, why do you think that? List of state leaders in 16 BC, List of state leaders in 15 BC, List of state leaders in 14 BC, etc. The reason I am contacting you is because these articles have only been edited by you, so I thought perhaps you would be interested in adding the missing information. —Quarl (talk) 2006-01-26 08:28Z
You want the info of article 18BC to be on the other articles as well? Problem is that i only inserted info of the place where i live, which belonged to the Roman Empire at that time. I don't know much about other empires.Daanschr 11:06, 26 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks from Lulu

Storm clouds ... and silver linings Thank you for your support on my RfA.
Unfortunately, it failed to reach consensus. Nonetheless, it proved an opportunity to establish contacts and cooperation with many supportive editors, which will be beneficial to editing Wikipedia in the future. Lulu of the Lotus-Eaters (t @)

zuup

Thanks,Mikereichold 06:44, 26 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Date and Time Signature

Hi Quarl! I have a quick question for you. I love your signature, especially the Date and Time part. I am not very good in coding, javascript, or CSS, but I would like to know how to put this Date and Time thing into my signature. Any help would be greatly appreciated!!
Ø tVaughn05 talkcontribs 17:27, 26 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Andy Davidson-Lee (AfD discussion)

Hi Quarl! That is my entry for myself (Andy Davidson-Lee)! I really didn't understand how to clean up my entry as I'm not that literate on the html and stuff like that...how do I keep my page? Many thanks A.D.Lee — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.107.193.129 (talk • contribs)

Please see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Andy Davidson-Lee for discussion. —Quarl (talk) 2006-01-27 20:09Z

WikiProject Computer science

There's a little more activity on Wikipedia:WikiProject Computer science now than there was a month ago. A few of us are trying to revitalize the project, so please stop by and see what's going on. --Allan McInnes 07:18, 27 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Lee Zalben (AfD discussion)

quarl, i am a bit of a newbie here, so apologies for my elementary questions. you started a discussion regarding my company and persional bio (Peanut Butter & Co. and Lee Zalben) - I tried to add to the discussion, but my comments aren't on the project page, they're on the discussion page, and i don't know how to change that. also, the photo of me is Copyright 2005 Peanut Butter & Co. but I don't know how to add that to the photo. any help with these issues would be appreciated! thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zalben (talk • contribs)

Thanks for your message. I've moved your comment from the talk page to the project page.
As for Image:Lee_zalben.jpg, do you have authority to release the image under a different copyright license? If so, you can use {{GFDL}} to release it under the GFDL. —Quarl (talk) 2006-01-27 19:53Z

Succesful RfA!

Thank you for your support during my RfA! The community has decided to make me an administrator, and there's work to be done. I look forward to seeing you around the project in the future, and if you see me do anything dumb, let me know right away! Regards, CHAIRBOY (☎) 23:25, 27 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]



Your sig script

Hey Quarl, your advanced sig script is awesome... I modified a tad Made it look "cleaner" on paper(source) and made it into a template, thus if you wanted to change the look of your sig it'd change everywhere. See my monobook for the script, look at the source to see the new sig -> —This user has left wikipedia 11:28 2006-01-28

Small note: The Achilles' look same but are not User:Αchille is where the template is, while User:Achille is userpage.
Ah, that Αchille vs Achille distinction confused me a lot until I clicked on them :) The wikisource does look very very nice compared to the messy markup mine inserts. I thought about doing it with templates but there is a performance guideline against that: Wikipedia:Sign_your_posts_on_talk_pages#Transclusion.2Ftemplate. If nobody complains about this kind of use of templates it could also be moved outside to template space e.g. {{sig|Achille|2006-01-28|11:28}}. I tried to get support on Village Pump to add something like this by default so that it wouldn't appear in wiki markup and everybody would benefit, but people didn't seem to get the idea. It's also doable via client javascript but it'll take more work to recognize signatures. —Quarl (talk) 2006-01-28 19:57Z
I have adressed the server load issue as well, see the response: here —This user has left wikipedia 03:49 2006-01-29
I like it very much; here are some concerns I could think of: (1) Some scripts/bots look for [[User:Foo]], so this might confuse them. (2) Using a doppelganger might be confusing to users looking at the wiki source. (3)(a) It's not scalable for everyone to have to create their own doppelganger just for a signature (3)(b) It requires protecting the signature page (3a could be addressed via a user subpage or a template-space generic template; 3b could be addressed by using a .js subpage, but it would look uglier). —Quarl (talk) 2006-02-01 12:07Z

Your recent alterations to {{oldafdfull}}

I know you're trying to be helpful, but there's a couple of things which I don't like:

  • You've changed the long-standing consensus that the link to the discussion page should be piped: it should display as the word "here". This avoids the problem when the PAGENAME is very long, and the link becomes ungainly.
  • You've made it appear that it is mandatory to SUBSTitute the template when using. It turns out this was added by someone being bold only a few months back, and according to recent discussions at WT:AUM it appears to be no longer sufficiently justified and I have .

I'm going to reverse only these two particular changes because I like the rest of what you have done. Obviously I look forward to constructive discussion if you disagree with my changes in turn. HTH HAND —Phil | Talk 15:34, 30 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the message. I did not realize the SUBSTing wasn't consensual. I will reply about the "here" piped link on Template talk:Oldafdfull. —Quarl (talk) 2006-02-01 10:46Z

Jay Saenz (AfD discussion)

I see what I did wrong, this was my first attempt at creating a entry. So I should merge all the info into the Jay Saenz page and leave out all the others because they are very little significance. Put that info all on the page about Mr. Saenz? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tim cavent (talk • contribs)

(see User talk:Tim cavent)

Maine East Scholastic Bowl Team (AfD discussion)

This is not a "high school bowling team", but a highly successful Academic Team who is currently second in the state. The Varsity coach, Dennis Wyatt, is well-renowned in the sport. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DigitalRosh (talk • contribs)

Agreed on "not a high school bowling team", but that's about it you have my agreeance on. Club definitely not notable. FYI: Quizzing is decidedly NOT a sport. --Andy Saunders 19:38, 31 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I did not realize it wasn't a bowling team until OntarioQuizzer's message - I am sorry I mischaracterized the subject of the article in the AFD. DigitialRosh, since the article has already been speedily deleted, if you disagree with the deletion of the article you can recreate it and assert notability this time. —Quarl (talk) 2006-02-01 10:41Z

Halestorm/Lzzy Hale

Greetings Quarl. I am "xblkx" (Barry L. Kramer). I wrote the articles on Halestorm and Lzzy Hale and got a message that I needed to expand to establish notability. I believe that I have done that for the Halestorm article. They qualify on the basis of "Has gone on an international concert tour, or a national concert tour in at least one large or medium-sized country, reported in notable and verifiable sources." (with the verifiable sources being Atlantic Records, a major label, and Ticketmaster which is selling the tickets).

I have two questions.

First, how do I know that someone has verified the notability criteria? I don't want to do any more work on the page if it is a candidate for deletion. Will you, or should I, remove the "notability" item on the page?

My other question is, if Halestorm (band) qualifies, does their founder and singer (Lzzy Hale) qualify also? The Lzzy Hale page was intended as a stub (like the one that already exists for Chris Stein, guitarist and co-founder of Blondie). My intention was to be able to use the Lzzy Hale page to give information about her, include an image, etc. now that the band is established as a national act and signed to a major label, and then add more information in the coming weeks as I get time. Again, I don't want to do any work on a page that will deleted for being too short.

best regards Barry L. Kramer Xblkx 21:11, 31 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

(see User talk:Xblkx)

doppelgangers

Whoops! Sorry, Quarl. fuddlemark (fuddle me!) 11:25, 1 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Don't mess with my article on Earth Age'

If you don't understand it, talk to me, don't move it around and don't redirect it. Thank you.ati3414

I didn't "mess" with "your" article. Please read Wikipedia:Ownership of articles, Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion, and then comment at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/How to calculate Earth's Age instead of on my talk page. —Quarl (talk) 2006-02-01 17:22Z

Overdue

Ok, you are very overdue for this. Thanks for your hard work —This user has left wikipedia 19:49 2006-02-01

Awesome, I saw you'd accepted. Dont forget to:

  1. Change the time on your RfA page to indicate the current time.
  2. Edit this page and add the following text above the most recent nomination (replacing USERNAME with your name):
  3. {{Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/USERNAME}} ----

Thanks for the nomination! I was so busy reading the various GRFA pages :) —Quarl (talk) 2006-02-01 23:53Z

William S. Nicolai

You tagged this as POV but did not discuss why. Rmhermen 00:37, 2 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've removed the POV tag. —Quarl (talk) 2006-02-02 01:05Z

Quote characters

The following quote character display correct:

1. / 2. / 4. / 8. / 9.

P.S. It was nothing major, but I was just a bit curious. Dr Debug (Talk) 12:16, 2 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You'll have trouble to get this working w/ many people. Internet Explorer 7 Does NOT display 4, 8, & 9. ~ Cheers —This user has left wikipedia 17:00 2006-02-02
Okay, thanks both for the information. I think « » (U+00AB U+00BB left-pointing double angle quotation mark) might be widely supported, as it is the French quote character. —Quarl (talk) 2006-02-03 03:40Z

Entries on WP:AIAV

No, sorry, I didn't see more then two when I got there. I banned the users and then edited the page to remove the two entries that I saw. I must have cleared the others without noticing that others had been added since I first went there. My apologies. Oberiko 22:55, 2 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

(discussion at User_talk:Oberiko#WP:AIAV)

Date Can & other scritps

I was playing out w/ the Date Canonicalization script, it's great. You didnt give out a summary for those. R you want to write some sort of miniguide to your work on your admin page? (I was thinking you were gonna make it straight through w/ no negative votes, but they're both weak and they might change their mind) —This user has left wikipedia 00:42 2006-02-03

There are a number of reasons I haven't written a HOWTO guide for using my user scripts: (1) The current popular and easiest method of hot-linking is insecure. (2) I am planning a system that will make user scripts easy to install and use, in a secure fashion, with automatic dependencies and updates and such, by non-technical people. (3) The scripts are currently beta quality and I had meant to test them more before advertising them - for example, location_canonicalize.js and date_canonicalize.js seem to be working great, but I wrote them very recently, so I want to test it on more articles before recommending new users use it. —Quarl (talk) 2006-02-03 03:33Z
As for "Main activity in December and January", I wouldn't argue against that. That is why I had declined the first nomination; I meant to wait 3 months (the apparent de-facto minimum time criterion) after December. —Quarl (talk) 2006-02-03 03:37Z

User:Quarl/unwatch.js

  1. I was including your unwatch script from a known good revision
  2. It stopped working. Turns out you moved the page and redirects get read as "#REDIRECT..." instead of the javascript at the output
  3. In the meantime, I tried using the latest version. I added:
winc('User:Quarl/watchlist.js');
winc('User:Quarl/wikipage.js'); 
winc('User:Quarl/util.js'); 
winc('User:Quarl/wikiwatch.js'); 
winc('User:Quarl/diffsince.js');

but I get the error: 

Error: wikiPage is not defined
Source File: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Quarl/watchlist.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript&dontcountme=s
Line: 46

any idea why? — Omegatron 05:00, 4 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for the disruption. You need to add the wikipage.js include before the watchlist.js include. —Quarl (talk) 2006-02-04 05:07Z
Works now. Thanks. — Omegatron 05:11, 4 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Do you have a problem with shortening "diff since" to just "since"? It's a great addition, by the way. — Omegatron 13:44, 4 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Done. —Quarl (talk) 2006-02-05 03:35Z
Thanks! — Omegatron 15:26, 5 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

WP:RFA/Peruvianllama

Okay, this is perhaps a bit overdue, but thank-you for your support in my recent RfA! I passed with a final vote count consensus of (82/1/0), which was a lot of support that I really appreciate. I'll try to live up to the expectations; and on that note, if there's ever something I do wrong (or don't do right), please spit in my general direction. Cheers! --PeruvianLlama(spit) 05:31, 4 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Admin nomination

Thanks for your considered comments concerning my nomination. The sheer volume and hysterical nastiness of the comments from the opposing editors - almost all of whom I don't know from a bar of soap - and vice versa - makes it clear that the nomination will fail, so no further action on my part is warranted. --Gene_poole 11:19, 5 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"Location canonicalization"

I have reverted this edit, as it is completely useless. --SPUI (talk - don't use sorted stub templates!) 05:30, 7 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. —Quarl (talk) 2006-02-07 05:33Z
I'm not sure what you mean by that, as you seem to have a script whose sole purpose is making edits like that. --SPUI (talk - don't use sorted stub templates!) 05:43, 7 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I prefer "San Francisco, California" to "San Francisco, California", though already-linked articles shouldn't be linked, so the next city in California wouldn't link to California. I have been reverted before on another article so you're not the only person that doesn't like it. It's pointless to argue so let's just leave it at Thanks for telling me politely. —Quarl (talk) 2006-02-07 05:50Z
I queried one of User:Adrian's such edits, and he passed the buck to you. So, here's my post on his talk page (I'll watch your talk page for anyr esponse):
I noticed that, under this rubric, you made some changes to John McCain. Abbreviating "United States" as "USA" seems wrong to me. The MoS calls for "U.S." as the preferred abbreviation. (Actually, in the context of the McCain infobox, I think it would be more natural to identify his office as "U.S. Senator" and omit any other reference to the country.) You also changed Philadelphia, Pennsylvania to Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. My own preference is for the former style. It's easier for the editor to create, so we're more likely to stay consistent, and in most contexts there's little chance that a reader would want to click through to the article about the state just because one city in the state is mentioned in passing. Nevertheless, I couldn't find anything on this point in the MoS. Is there a provision that supports calling this format "canonical"?
Thanks for your consideration. JamesMLane t c 10:28, 12 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
FWIW, while the man may have a point over the MoS issue, I can't see a reason not to wikilink the state. It's helpful to a reader, and ultimately Wikipedia *is* for the reader, not the ease of the editor. Besides, if every page is normalized to that format, we'll be consistent anyway, no? :) User:Adrian/zap2.js 10:35, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
I don't feel strongly about "United States" vs "USA" -- I had assumed "USA" was the best, but I see now MOS says "United States". As for the [[City, State|City]], [[State]] stuff, obviously my opinion is it should be that way since I wrote a script to automate it :) "It's harder to type [[City, State|City]], [[State]]" is not a very convincing argument to me, but there are stronger arguments for and against the format. "Canonical" is only my own word for it; notice it doesn't say "per MOS". I don't mind changing the word "canonical" used in edit summaries if it implies some kind of policy. This was brought up by SPUI on WP:AN/I with all but one admin agreeing with me. I then moved discussion to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Location Format, which see. One person disagreed and I got tired of arguing with him so I guess the status quo is no consensus (every man for himself). —Quarl (talk) 2006-02-12 13:13Z
Complying with the MoS will reduce the ability of others to complain, but apart from that, I don't see any problems. User:Adrian/zap2.js 04:10, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

Certification of voting machines (AfD discussion)

I think it is an important subject. Should it be deleted, because it seems that way. I've made a copy at [3]. I haven't made a seperate topic of it yet. Even though that wiki is not active anymore since it was never integrated in the messageboard, I have a personal assurance by Skinner, the owner, that all information will be kept, so your work will not be lost and will still be in google ;) The downside is that hardly anybody will edit it, but it can't be vandalized either :) Dr Debug (Talk) 07:07, 7 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the offer. Are you saying "it seems Certification of voting machines will be deleted"? It doesn't seem like that to me. Usually when a bunch of people vote "delete, no context" and then someone comes along, adds, context to the article, and votes "keep, per rewritten/added context", the prior "no context" votes can be disregarded. —Quarl (talk) 2006-02-07 07:24Z

WP:RFA/Joke137

Hi Quarl, thanks for voting in my (successful) RfA. All the voters who voted neutral or oppose had the same criticism – lack of involvement in the Wikipedia namespace. This is nice, because it is a weakness that I can endeavor to fix. Although I don't think I have the disposition or diligence to be actively involved with, say, VfD, I've recently started to participate in the Featured Article discussions and will start participating in some policy discussions now that I am starting to grasp the way the project runs. –Joke 16:54, 7 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

WP:RFA/Cantthinkofagoodname

Hi, just wanted to thank you for voting on my RFA, which went through with a count of (58/0/1), far better than I'd expected. I intend to take things slowly and start using the extra abilities gradually, but if there's anything I can do just leave a message. Cheers, CTOAGN (talk) 13:54, 7 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Iadipaoligize (AfD discussion)

My article "Iadipaoligize" was not a hoax. I would prefer you check on it before deleting it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mbuc91 (talk • contribs)

(discussion at User talk:Mbuc91)

User:Quarl/auto_summary.js

Here's a script you might find useful in your auto summary thing: 

/* When the summary box is clicked, select only the part *after* the section title/place the cursor after the auto summary */

addOnloadHook(function () {
    if (document.getElementById('wpSummary')) {
        summary = document.getElementById('wpSummary');
        function selectSummary() {
            section = summary.value.match(/(?:\/\*(?:.*)\*\/)?\s*(?:«(?:.*)»)? ?/);
            if (section) {
                sectlen = section[0].length;
                end = summary.textLength;
                summary.setSelectionRange(sectlen,end);
            }
        }
       summary.onclick = selectSummary;
    }
});

If you improve on it, let me know. For some reason, onfocus, onselect, and the like don't do anything for me. I guess I don't understand how they work. Ideally, it would select when you click or focus using the tab key. With onclick it only works when you click, and is kind of annoying to work with since it keeps doing it every time you try to highlight something different. — Omegatron 01:00, 8 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Great addition! I used a setTimeout(function, 0) to be able to call setSelectionRange inside the 'focus' event handler. —Quarl (talk) 2006-02-08 03:45Z
Oh, good. Thanks! — Omegatron 17:42, 8 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Also, using winc() slows down page load a lot. Do you have the same problem? Lupin suggested including all the scripts as templates so that it kept them in cache and only had to load one file, but it didn't work smoothly when I tried it. — Omegatron 01:03, 8 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes it is slow, but because they're all cached, it only happens the first time. For editing user scripts themselves, I have User:Quarl/userscript.js which auto-refreshes the single js page after I save it (control-shift-R is slow because it would reload every page). —Quarl (talk) 2006-02-08 03:48Z
Ah, I see.
You've seen WikiProject User scripts, right? — Omegatron 17:42, 8 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Yes. I prefer to work on scripts in my own userspace. Linking to them or copying is certainly fine, I just didn't want to toot my own horn. —Quarl (talk) 2006-02-09 04:45Z
Ok. It's just about visibility and collaboration for me. Your page is already linked, though, I see.  :-) — Omegatron 15:18, 9 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

WP:RFA/Superm401

I want to sincerely thank you for voting on my adminship nomination. Whenever I mess up, please let me know. I want to learn from my mistakes so they don't become patterns. Superm401 - Talk 05:19, 8 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

WP:RFA/Bbatsell

Thank you for your comments on my request for adminship. It ultimately succeeded with votes of 52/1/2, but I wish to take any constructive comments into account and to ultimately improve my contributions to Wikipedia. Should you have any questions, comments, complaints, or requests at any point in the future, please do not hesitate to let me know on my talk page or via e-mail.

TfD nomination of Template:Testb

Template:Testb has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at Wikipedia:Templates for deletion#Template:testb. Thank you. -- Avi 06:46, 8 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

TfD nomination of Template:Test4a

Template:Test4a has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at Wikipedia:Templates for deletion#Template:test4a. Thank you. -- Avi 06:57, 8 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Cyberservices (AfD discussion), Philippine Cyberservices Corridor (AfD discussion)

Pls visit again AfD Cyberservices, and see an article created by the same "user" - AfD Philippine Cyberservices Corridor. Pls encourage more well known users to make a vote. I have a suspicion that there will be a flood of posts from anons, and new users in those two AfDs. Thanks. --Noypi380 11:14, 8 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hey there. I appreciate your input, and the tag, but I made a comment. I hope I could change your mind. Thanks. --Noypi380 07:06, 11 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Template talk:Test

Implementing your idea: Please look here [4] -- Avi 15:52, 8 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Your JS tools (thanks)

Thank you very much for creating and modifying the very handy as well as time-saving functions at Quarl/monobook.

—-- That Guy, From That Show! (talk) 2006-02-08 16:05Z
You're welcome. —Quarl (talk) 2006-02-08 22:11Z

Congratulations!

Congratulations! It's my pleasure to let you know that, consensus being reached, you are now an administrator. You should read the relevant policies and other pages linked to from the administrators' reading list before carrying out tasks like deletion, protection, banning users, and editing protected pages such as the Main Page. Most of what you do is easily reversible by other sysops, apart from page history merges and image deletion, so please be especially careful with those. You might find the new administrators' how-to guide helpful. Cheers! -- Cecropia 22:13, 8 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Congratulations, Quarl, well deserved! -- Avi 22:13, 8 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! —Quarl (talk) 2006-02-08 22:27Z

Hurrah! Congrats and welcome to the "mop squad" :-) - Just zis  Guy, you know? [T]/[C] 22:49, 8 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, congrats :) Never doubted it'd happen. User:Adrian/zap 04:07, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

TestTemplatesNotice remark

Hi. I wonder if you could comment at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject user warnings, in the section about {{TestTemplatesNotice}}. I had noticed that you put that template in {{summary}}, and I am wondering if it is indeed necessary to have it there. Thanks. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 22:42, 8 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Four Points

WRT Four Points (I ended up on your talk page because I have Fullerton, CA on my watchlist and I was curious about your edits): the complainer was looking for Five Points (Manhattan) so was pretty much completely in the wrong. The only Four Points I've heard of is the hotel chain, too. --ErinOConnor

Ah, I see. Thanks for the info!  :) —Quarl (talk) 2006-02-08 22:53Z

monobook.js

Hello Quarl, I took the liberty of "borrowing" your nice function winc(s) from your monobook.js a while back with a view to cleaning up my own monobook. I also added some of your useful scripts from your sub pages and they all work beautifully except for User:Quarl/toolbox_edit_count.js. For some reason, the link just does not show up on my toolbox, although it did for a spell while I was rebuilding the monobook.js. I just wondered if the script itself is still functioning or if I have implemented something incorrectly? Thanks. --Cactus.man ✍ 08:19, 9 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Cactus.man, can you see if there are any Javascript errors? —Quarl (talk) 2006-02-09 08:33Z

Hi Quarl, thanks for replying. I am running Firefox 1.5.0.1 and there are a gazillion javascript errors reported in the console. Most seem to be related to extensions or Greasemonkey scripts. The only one I can see that appears to be relevant is: 

Error: [JavaScript Error: "illegal character" {file: "http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Quarl/summary.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript&dontcountme=s" line: 1 column: 0 source: "#REDIRECT [[User:Quarl/auto summary.js]]"}]
Source File: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Quarl/summary.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript&dontcountme=s
Line: 1
Source Code:
#REDIRECT [[User:Quarl/auto summary.js]]

My javascript understanding is rudimentary at best and I belong to the copy, paste, offer a human sacrifice and pray to the Gods school of programming. Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks. --Cactus.man ✍ 12:13, 11 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Update: I have fixed the redirect in my monobook.js to point directly at User:Quarl/auto_summary.js. Still no editcount link in the toolbox :( There are now no javascript errors that relate to any of your scripts. HTH. --Cactus.man ✍ 12:24, 11 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, the redirect was the problem (I shouldn't have renamed so liberally back then). Also, if there are any javascript errors, even if they are not from my scripts, anything after the error won't work. If you could identify which script it is from (if you are using Firefox, just click on the link in the Javascript console), then you could remove that one or move the edit count script above it. —Quarl (talk) 2006-02-12 13:01Z
I have too many javascript errors being generated by extensions at the moment to fix this properly. I have tried positioning your edit count script at the head of the queue, but to no effect. The strange thing is that the extension errors don't seem to affect the functioning of any of the other Wikipedia scripts. Oh well, never mind, it's not really that big a deal so I can live without it :( Thanks for your help nonetheless. --Cactus.man ✍ 15:21, 12 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

TfD nomination of Template:Test2b

Template:Test2b has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at Wikipedia:Templates for deletion#Template:Test2b. Thank you. -- Avi 14:56, 9 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

smartsubmit.js

Am I right that it strips math and images, or is there another script I need to include for those to work? Also it would be nice if it moved the page focus to show the preview or diff. Currently, the page stays looking at the edit box while the preview changes, but then you have to scroll up to see it. If there's no page-scrolling function built-in, you could generate an anchor tag at the beginning of the preview and then navigate to it?

If I don't use smartsubmit, the auto diff summary is erased after the preview loads. Couldn't the diff function be programmed to not touch the auto diff summary it generated on a previous incarnation of a page?

Thanks for all of these tools, they're really useful.  :-) — Omegatron 15:10, 9 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see any problems with images - are you saying images don't appear after you preview?
Uhhhh... Yes, the other day, anyway. Now it seems to work fine. Maybe there was high server load and they turned off images and TeX rendering and I mistook it as a problem with smartsubmit... Nevermind. — Omegatron 22:00, 12 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I added code so it now automatically focuses on the preview/diff after it is available.
The reason I wrote smartsubmit was exactly for the diff summary issue :) Yes, autodiff could avoid touching the summary, but I often keep editing after preview/diff, in which case the edit summary because useless without smartsubmit. —Quarl (talk) 2006-02-09 22:47Z
I am including my en wikipedia script on all the other wikis (commons, wikibooks, etc.) Everything seems to work well except on en.wikisource.org, smartsubmit gives the error "Smart Submit: Couldn't get wikiPreview from downloaded document!" — Omegatron 22:00, 12 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Participant alert regarding Wikiproject on Advertising

The Wikiproject No Ads, created as a backlash against the Answers.com deal, has served an important function in providing a space for users to express their disagreement with the Foundation proposal. While the current controversies about userboxes raise questions about political and social advocacy on Wikipedia, there should be greater flexibility regarding advocacy about Wikipedia in the Wikipedia namespace. Reported and linked by Slashdot and other press sources as a unique and spontaneous occurence in Wikipedia history, it has apparently had some impact as, despite being scheduled to begin in January, not a peep has been heard about the trial and proposed sponsored link since the deal's controversial announcement months ago. Currently, however, there is an attempt to delete the project or move it off Wikipedia altogether. Since the Foundation has provided no additional information and has not attempted to answer the specific questions that participants in the project raised, it is unclear if the Answers.com deal has been abandoned or simply delayed. Until the situation becomes more clear, I believe the group should still have a place in the Wikipedia namespace. Sincerely, Tfine80 00:33, 10 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

bot edits

Yes, actually I noticed that, and it's because of the similar format used, but I've increased the complexity of the regex, and that should not happen again. Sorry. — FREAK OF NURxTURE (TALK) 00:24, Feb. 11, 2006

RFM#age of earth

See Wikipedia:Requests for mediation#External link regarding the age of the Earth. --Smack (talk) 07:58, 12 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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