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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by Muthuwella (talk | contribs) at 21:59, 28 November 2010 (→‎incubation editing or discussion rather than deletion: new section). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

Welcome to my talk page. Click here to leave me a message.

If you have come here about a page I deleted, you will probably find the explanation here; if that does not answer your question, click the link just above to leave me a message. Please mention the name of the page, and sign your post with four "tilde" characters ~~~~ so that I know who you are.

If I have left a message on your talk page, please reply there; I am watching it.

If you leave a message here I will usually reply here, but if my reply contains advice I hope you will find useful, I may place it on your talk page. (Talk page stalkers: you are welcome; if you see no reply here, there is probably one on the other talk page; I have decided to stop making a note here when I reply there).

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Your "fan club"

They never fail to crack me up. I don't remember why I started watching your page to begin with but it sure has turned out to be amusing in a warped way in hindsight.Millahnna (talk) 20:05, 15 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Had you noticed that my current most enthusiastic fan is in Brazil? He could actually be cut off by a couple of quite small range-blocks, 2048 and 4096 IPs, but as long as you're happy to go on clearing up after him it's not worth it. Cheers, JohnCD (talk) 21:11, 15 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Belen Echandia

Hi John,

Do you know if this page has really been opened up for deletion again for the third time this week? I can't see a new AFD but the "settled" section of text appears to have been removed. Thanks in advance. findingtruths (talk) 23.05, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

No, this is the same (second) debate continuing. These debates normally run for seven days; this one was closed early by a non-administrator, which is permitted only in absolutely non-controversial cases, such as if the nominator withdraws and nobody has expressed a delete opinion. A "non-admin closure" can be reversed by any administrator; this one was improper because there were some delete !votes (we call them !votes, the ! in front is a negation, "not-vote," to emphasise that debates are decided on the arguments not on a count of heads), so an administrator reversed it and the debate continues. JohnCD (talk) 10:22, 16 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I see! I hadn't realised that a non-admin had closed it. findingtruths (talk) 10:56, 16 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Anika Invada

Why did you delete that article, man?!? Was Wikipedias harddrive full again? Well, I'm glad there's Google cache. Obviously they don't have problems with disk space like Wikipedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.193.186.236 (talk) 22:16, 16 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:MUSICBIO for what a musical performer needs to have achieved before having a Wikipedia article. JohnCD (talk) 13:56, 17 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

AUTHOR REVISED PAGE

Please see newly created page for author Anuska Wirasinha and give feedback. We have tried to conact Shimeru for feedback and to relist the newly completely revised update but has not heard anything for months. Muthu

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Muthuwella/Anushka_Wirasinha —Preceding unsigned comment added by Muthuwella (talkcontribs) 00:44, 17 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I will look at it again, but it will be a few days before I have time to read it all. JohnCD (talk) 13:57, 17 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Petra Airlines -- a new chance?

Hi John, I'm planning to write an article about Petra Airlines, but have just noticed that a previous attempt was speedy deleted, because notability could not be established. Well, I do think that this company is notable, though. It is a start-up airline, so there aren't all-too many reliable sources to be found. But those that are there ([1], [2], [3], [4], [5] just to name some), are IMO enough to provide the significant coverage in reliable third-party media, which would be enough to pass the WP:CORP notability guideline. I'm starting editing on the article in my userspace, and would be glad if you could have a look at it before it may be copied into main space. Per aspera ad Astra (talk) 13:43, 17 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The entire text of the article I deleted was "start with 3 ex gulf air a320 in 2011?" You should be able to do better than that, but I am not really convinced by the sources you link - no.1 is a blog, nos. 2, 4 and 5 look as if they are all regurgitating the same press release. You're doing the right thing by starting in your user space - I suggest you do the best you can and then post a request at WP:Requests for feedback to see what others think. Don't give up, I'm sure it will become notable, but you may have to wait until the airline is (literally) off the ground before there is enough substantial, independent comment to satisfy WP:CORP. You could probably get help and advice at Wikipedia:WikiProject Airlines. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 13:58, 17 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your input. I completed the draft for the article, and placed the matter here and here. Per aspera ad Astra (talk) 14:53, 17 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

About subpage in spanish

I want for that you erase that subpage, now I were reading Template:Db. I create it by error, I thought that was es.wikipedia. Pablo López We fly together 15:25, 17 November 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lopezpablo 87 (talkcontribs) [reply]

 Done. JohnCD (talk) 15:32, 17 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, you excuse them annoyances. And the error in the signature is by copy-paste. Pablo López We fly together 15:39, 17 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
No problem. JohnCD (talk) 15:43, 17 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

redirect on Youvan's Apologetics

John, thanks for the help on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_Youvan#Christian_Apologetics. Unfortunately, certain keyword searches on Google go to the deleted page and one is left hanging. Is there a way to make that redirect transparently move to the "Christian Apologetics" subsection on Douglas Youvan rather than to the deleted article? Bridgetttttttebabblepoop 22:47, 18 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

What has happened is that the admin who closed the deletion discussion closed it as delete rather than redirect. It would not be good manners for me simply to revert him, but I have explained the situation and invited him to change his close. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 23:15, 18 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The redirect has been restored. JohnCD (talk) 08:40, 19 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you John Bridgetttttttebabblepoop 12:16, 19 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Dear John

I'm a PhD student in University of Arizona, Tucson, USA. Is it possible to let me know the reason for removing page "List of countries in chronological order of achieving statehood" was its content invalid? my email: ekabiri@email.arizona.edu

Thanks, Ehsan Kabiri Rahani —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.111.14.89 (talk) 05:06, 19 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The page was first merged with List of countries by statehood, and then the merged article was deleted after Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of countries by statehood which listed a string of problems and decided that it was redundant to the better-defined List of sovereign states by date of formation. JohnCD (talk) 17:13, 19 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Australian Republic Party and the Republican Party of Australia are two completely different political parties. You deleted our page the Australian Republic Party (We are more active in current Australian Politics) and you left party that is inactive now instead. Lukeroughley (talk) 16:13, 19 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Very well, I have restored it; but you will have to demonstrate notability by showing "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject." JohnCD (talk) 16:29, 19 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

New Australian Republic Party

Never heard of them, they are not credible, it's on a blog

Our website is www.australianrepublicparty.org.au


We are a registered Not for profit political party in Australia. ABN 24317964018 - See Link http://www.abr.business.gov.au/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lukeroughley (talkcontribs) 16:42, 19 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Okay John no problem at all. Remove it for now. Better not to be on here, then to have a whole heap of issues. I understand wikipedia and how it works. So I will leave up to a member of the public to start a page later down the track. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lukeroughley (talkcontribs) 16:47, 19 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, I appreciate that, it saves us some trouble. Cheers, JohnCD (talk) 17:00, 19 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No problem, we are a minor party on the way up with continued memberships coming in each week. Honestly I would have liked to have been on wikipedia, but the fact is I do not want our party associated with anything that looks dubious. So I guess we will have to wait until we run in the 2011 Local Council elections and hopefully with the related media coverage of that election, somebody ads us to wikipedia. Cheers Lukeroughley (talk) 17:50, 19 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Talinsfadasporia

Hello, glad you acted quickly on that one; I was expecting to have to argue a case for deletion!! Cheers (Crusoe8181 (talk) 11:43, 20 November 2010 (UTC)).[reply]

I'm usually hesitant about speedy-deleting possible hoaxes, because unlikely things sometimes turn out to be true, but when none of the sources listed mentioned this, it wasn't on the maps, it wasn't in my big Times Atlas, most of it was cut and pasted from Dibrugarh, and the author's other contributions looked dodgy, that was enough. Thanks for tagging it - what brought it to your attention? JohnCD (talk) 12:00, 20 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

What a welcome!

Hello,

I am unsure why you & your colleagues decided to delete the article I was working on whilst I was adapting & translating a French WP version. Although I agree it looks untidy the way it has been frozen, nobody was going to look for "emaux de Briare" in the next couple of hours so I would have had time to improve it by quite a bit -that is if I had been given a couple of hours. Now what can I do? What can you do that would be helpful?

If your purpose is to discourage newcomers, you can be satisfied.

Good bye

Jcksa (talk) 22:23, 20 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have not deleted your article - I moved it into your user space at User:Jcksa/Émaux de Briare so that you could work on it there, told you on your talk page, nearly an hour ago, where it was, and offered help. I also added the {{translated page}} template to its talk page which is necessary to maintain the attribution link to the original French page - the absence of that was why it had been tagged for speedy deletion. JohnCD (talk) 22:33, 20 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

hello JohnCD my name is Aaron Cargill- it is to my understanding that you recently deleted an article of mine (Robbie Leopardi) the reason was that he is not important (A7: Article about a real person, which does not indicate the importance or significance of the subject) I just wanted to tell you that he is very important, for example when you google robbie l "Robbie Leopardi" is the first suggestion on top of people like Robbie Lawler (a famous ufc fighter) who by the way has a wikipedia page so if you are going to delete that page why arent you going to delete Robbie Lawler under the same reasons? or please put the page Robbie Leopardi back up- i spent alot of time writing that page on a significant person not for it to be deleted but for people to know about him. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aaron cargill (talkcontribs) 11:22, 22 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

If you click on the red-link above you will see that the article has been deleted three times by different admins for the same reason: it gives no indication of why he is important, it just says he paints, and gives some quotes from him and links to his website and his Twitter. I have already explained on your talk page about Wikipedia's admission criterion of notability, but to repeat: it is not a matter of opinion, or of saying that he is important, but has to be demonstrated by showing "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject." Significant means more than just listing-type mentions; reliable excludes Myspace, Facebook, blogs, Twitter, places where anyone can post anything; independent excludes the subject's own website, affiliated ones like galleries selling his work, and anything based on press releases. There is more detail in WP:Notability (people), particularly the section WP:ARTIST.
If after you read those links and WP:Your first article you think you can find independent references to show notability, ask here or on your talk page and I will undelete the article into your user space where you can work on it. Because it was created three times without improvement it has been salted - protected against re-creation - so when you have a version you think shows notability you will need to approach Courcelles (talk · contribs), who salted it, for permission to post it. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 14:40, 22 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi John. I handled it like a pro this time, but the PROD was contested. I'd take it to AfD but I'm not totally comfortable with the necessary wording, and "this version" is a bit different than the last. Would you care to have the honours?  -- WikHead (talk) 16:02, 22 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

On second thought, just carry on with what you're doing. PMDrive1061 just took it out as a CSD G1. Cheers :).  -- WikHead (talk) 16:16, 22 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Used Car Planet

Hi,

I was creating a page about Used Car Planet, and you deleted it. Can I know why? My page similer to the Auto Trader page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auto_Trader

Regards, Khaled —Preceding unsigned comment added by Khaledelmahdi (talkcontribs) 16:51, 22 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The article was written in promotional marketing-speak: "cost effective solution", "developed with performance in mind", "out performs on search engine results" and in the first person: "What we do is... " "we are not interested in... " - the company talking direct to the reader. That was not an encyclopedia article, that was an advertisement, and Wikipedia is not for advertising or promotion of any kind. If you are connected with the company, please read our policy against editing with a conflict of interest. See also the WP:FAQ/Organizations which will probably answer any other questions. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 23:09, 22 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

John, Thanks for the relist. The frustration here is that those who want the article deleted don't understand to research and find the information. Shimeru said that it is ok if info is in native language also as it can be translated. I have put whatever I have including articles written in Sri Lanka that I have. Others have sent me things I have included. I see a question about India times bestseller and it was listed in 2003 I think. So it's not there online now but I created the article from facts. Whatever facts I had. My interest is puting a local author on the map not anything else. I am looking at all Sri Lankan women authors. Also note her books were the first books in IT ever to be published in English by a Sri Lanka author. Books are endorsed by the Sri Lanka government. I have attached that image as proof. The author meets the criteria for inclusion. She is a well known Sri Lanka writer. The Sri Lanka government has listed her on their page. I am deflated by the quick delete comments as there should be a chance for those who know her work to re-edit rather than those who just can't be bothered about researching to delete. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Muthuwella (talkcontribs) 00:17, 23 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Adding more and more references about facts that already established, like her books, doesn't necessarily help. DGG and Uncle G are two very experienced editors, and it is valuable to have their help. We'll just have to see how it goes. JohnCD (talk) 22:30, 24 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I added the links because SmartSE claimed that the sources were "not reliable", "not neutral" and "self created" so I responded with proof of links that show otherwise and lists reliable sources and third party articles and interviews about the artist. Then when I scanned the Financial Times article. Again I was told it is made up, so I had to explain with as many links as I could find. Then I was told google doesn't have stuff. So I spent hours getting links from google to prove otherwise. I don't know what facts are already established so I am trying to provide links that prove as much as possible that the author meets the requirements for inclusion. What else is needed? I agree with DDG and Uncle G. How can I get their help? I also appreciate your help. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Muthuwella (talkcontribs) 01:38, 28 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Lucie mccready

Sorry, realised my mistake as soon as the CSD template was added. For some reason I thought it said the person was cool which is why I marked it as being an unremarkable person. Went in to correct myself but you beat me to it :) --5 albert square (talk) 16:58, 23 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No problem, I thought it was something like that, so I didn't bother to mention it to you. It can be hard these days to tell what's an attack page and what's a compliment. I have warned someone for an attack and had an indignant reply saying that the subject was himself the author and intended to tell the world how wonderful he was. JohnCD (talk) 17:02, 23 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Hah, in the edit summary I think I saw 'cool' so must have confused it with the article when marking it. You think that's bad though? Once I came across a new article in Wikipedia that gave step by step instructions on how to murder someone and claimed that the plan was fool proof and you would definitely not be caught by the police if you followed this plan! Needless to say I got it speedily deleted! The things people dream up! --5 albert square (talk) 17:11, 23 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
A clear violation of WP:NOT#HOWTO. JohnCD (talk) 17:20, 23 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Apologies...

My apologies. I had chosen that tag, and I thought I copied it, but I did not, so when I hit "paste", another tag was put in... I did not notice it.--Braniff747SP (talk) 20:55, 23 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No problem - easy to do. Cheers, JohnCD (talk) 20:56, 23 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Man vs natick

dear Mr johnCD i have contacted you regarding a specific page that you deleted by the name of "man vs natick". i was looking for clarification as to why you deleted this page and if you could possibly restore it back to the website. as the creator of man vs natick, seeing the wikipedia page for it made me overjoyed, because it gave me a sence of accomplishment i had never felt befor in my 15 years on this planet. please contact me at <email addresses redacted>. thank you very much i greatly apriciate it

sincerely,

Andrew Young —Preceding unsigned comment added by Andrew Florian Young (talkcontribs) 00:40, 24 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The reasons why the article was deleted were explained on the talk page of Drewman1995 (talk · contribs), the account that created it. As an encyclopedia, Wikipedia is selective about subjects for articles: they have to be of enough general interest for an encyclopedia. The Wikipedia term is notability, and that is not a matter of opinion but has to be demonstrated by showing "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject." The test is, have other people, independent of the subject, thought it important enough to write about?
I'm sorry if that's disappointing for you, but you could write about your Youtube show on a site like Myspace. I will put a Welcome paragraph on your talk page with links which will tell you more about contributing here.
It's not a good idea to post your email address here - spambots crawl about Wikipedia looking for them, and you are liable to find your mailbox full of unwanted junk. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 12:09, 24 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

List of Tallest Buildings in Plano

A1 speedy was appropriate, in my view, because the stub gave no indication of what city in what country was implied. Canada? US?Prod or AFD are overkill. Edison (talk) 18:40, 24 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You have a point; as an ignorant Brit, I assumed everyone knew where Plano was, but I see from Plano that there are five, all in the US, though I guess the reference to Dallas means this is probably Plano, Tx. More to the point, it seems unlikely that the author intended a list of one item: a PROD gives time for it to develop into the sort of list which, though you (and I) might consider it WP:LISTCRUFT, could well have a chance of being kept at AfD; if so, the vague title could be fixed by a move. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 22:22, 24 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion of World of Beer (bar)

to whom this may concern,

being new to this end of wikipedia my intention with the World of Beer page was to work on it this upcoming weekend.

World of beer is a bar that has taken off over the last few years across the state of florida and is rapidly expanding throughout the eastern, south eastern and gulf coast of the US. its focus is in regard to the craft brew, microbrew and import beers of the greater US and the world at large.

from an amateur sociological perspective, the impact of the orginal location against the greater community that surrounds as well as the culture that has developed has made a significant impact on the success of the bar(s).

if you have any further questions, please let me know. i'd like to get the base for the article started tomorrow and have some links and pics ready by saturday.

thanks.

Lhhgm79 (talk) 20:33, 24 November 2010 (UTC) Dave[reply]

p.s. [6] St.Petersburg Times Article regarding world of beer growth —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lhhgm79 (talkcontribs) 20:51, 24 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The complete text of the article I deleted was "World of Beer is a beer bar based in Florida." Even a first shot at an article needs to give some indication of why its subject is important or significant or (in this case) different from 10,000 other bars. For advice, start with WP:Your first article, WP:Notability and WP:CORP; more on your talk page soon, but probably not until tomorrow. JohnCD (talk) 22:11, 24 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Por favor

Hey John can you please undelete this File:Me in autumn '09.jpg and also restore my User page to as it was prior to my deletion request. E. Fokker (talk) 19:31, 26 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

 Done. JohnCD (talk) 19:50, 26 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks John. E. Fokker (talk) 19:59, 26 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Why would you delete it? Its nothing to do with you. I'm not being funny but i'll delet a page of yours shall i? wouldn't be happy would you? Exacly. Just pathetic. It was mine and i did it for a laugh. kthanksbi. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Imisla (talkcontribs) 19:34, 26 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, but Wikipedia is a serious project to build an encyclopedia, not a place for articles about yourself done "for a laugh". There are plenty of social-networking sites like Myspace for that sort of thing. JohnCD (talk) 20:07, 26 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Anushka Wirasinha Page

Couple of things- if there are articles written in tamil and sinhala, can anyone in wikipedia help get it translated, such as wiki projects srilanka? Shimeru said it's ok to scan and add non english language articles so I added one in sinhala and others have some in tamil. Would like to include these.

Also can I give an email by placing it on a talk page so someone can send more info to me that way.

Thanks for relisting this for discussion, I am happy with the way it is progressing but there is much more out there though connected to the artist that i need help getting to include. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Muthuwella (talkcontribs) 01:23, 28 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It is not a good idea to put your email address on a talk page, because "spambots" scan Wikipedia to collect them, and you will get a lot of junk mail. But there is a safer way to let people email you: click "My preferences" and then "User profile"; at the foot of that page you can enter your email address and check the box marked "Enable e-mail from other users". Then on the left of your user page there will be a link "Email this user", which people can use to send you emails. For translation, yes, I should think Wikiproject SriLanka would be a good place, or the Sinhalese and Tamil Wikipedias. JohnCD (talk) 10:55, 28 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

While a discussion was going on for ANUSHKA WIRASINHA page it was deleted today disregarding anything being said and despite the author page meeting notability criteria in a number of areas. Also note that user B and user Shimeru is the same person as shimeru wrote to me as B and as Shimeru. So the deletes by B on 24th June and deletes by Shimeru on 24th June is same.

Now what can I do? how can the people who have more articles about her send it if the page is deleted? Can it be relisted for a few more days to add these that will take a few days? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Muthuwella (talkcontribs) 20:37, 28 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Save me and the page

I started the page Mubasshar Hussain. But, later it was deleted by User:Michig. I edited it again providing enough reliable references. User:Ragib deleted the page again and blocked me from editing. I created a new wikipedia account and tried to start the page, but failed. Mubasshar Hussain is the president of Commonwealth Architects Association and ARCASIA. But it was stated, "Speedy deleted per CSD A7, was an article about a real person that didn't assert the importance or significance of its subject. using TW". You saved the page Hassan Shahriar before, which was also started by me. So, I am asking for help to you. If I am wrong please explain.

Here is the sample page:

Mubasshar Hussain is a Bangladeshi architect. He is currently the president of Institute of Architects Bangladesh[1], ARCHITECTS REGIONAL COUNCIL ASIA (ARCASIA)[2], Commonwealth Association of Architects (CAA)[3], founder Chairman of Global Insurance Limited[4].

incubation editing or discussion rather than deletion

John, Can the article be placed under incubation or for further discussion rather than deletion? It was even deleted prior to completion of 7 days despite valid arguments for keeping it and this is again not allowing us to add further material for this. Chamithra is doing so much of research and I have contacted several sources to get more, so I can't understand why it was deleted without wizerdman discussing what can be done or what needs to be done to include it or atleast incubate it. Pleeeeese HELP.