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I was at a presentation on immigration to Italy and she mentioned a good deal on African immigrants. Using what she said as a guide I've looked for what I can.--T. Anthony 01:59, 29 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

IT'S A NONSENSE TO LABEL ITALIANS BORN IN THE OLD COLONIES BY ITALIAN ANCESTORS (FATHER AND MOTHER) AS AFRICANS

Ungaretti a fomous poetry was pure Italian, and also Claudia Cardinale born in the french tunisie, or Claudio Gentile born in Lybia when that country was an italian's colony. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Protesilao1978 (talk • contribs) 20:41, 6 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ancient Black People in Rome or Italy

Why no mention of these people? Because is false.

I made a passing reference, but I don't have a book on it at present. (I have read some on blacks in the Roman Empire, including the Italian peninsula) I was hoping someone with greater expertise could expand on that and maybe add names.--T. Anthony 16:58, 15 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Not only that, you seemed to have gone out of your way to talk about and seperate a so-called "sub-Saharan" African from the North African as if that has meaning. Who cares if a N. African is considered an arab? If that N. African is black, does it make a difference? I am sure that science behind that is because you know that there has been extensive African blood and peoples into Italy and Europe for at least 40,000 years. Of course Africans from south of the Sahara were more unlikely than likely to have been into Italy, but that DOES NOT mean that an Afircan black man from North Africa had not. In fact, the history is VERY clear by Rome and later Italy that there were quite a few blacks in Italy. The people of Italy are proof of that mixture anyway. Stop trying to change history. Just because one is called an arab does not mean that they are not black. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.28.93.188 (talk) 07:38, 9 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

umm

why are there so many Americans on this list? This article is about Italians of African descent. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Arthurian Legend (talk • contribs) 21:39, August 25, 2007 (UTC)

I have done the spilt of the article proposed above —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lucifero4 (talk • contribs) 21:10, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It's still not clear whether that's meant to be a list of Italians who happen to have black skin, or Italians from Africa. For instance, I would guess that someone like Fiona May represents three separate "migrations" - born in the UK, but probably of Caribbean rather than African family, so her links to Africa are weaker than her links to the British Isles or some Caribbean island. Is she an "African" in Italy? FlagSteward (talk) 03:39, 5 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

FlagSteward: Yes, this article's scope is muddled somewhat. I think, as it presents itself now, the intent is to cover all with origins from the African continent- skin colour not a factor. I agree, however, it does jump into "black" only the list- no matter how remote the African origin. As I don' think there is enough material for two or three separate articles, this aspect should be clarified within this article. What do you think? Dionix (talk) 17:00, 5 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Carlton Myers

Carlton Myers is still in activity. --AdBo 08:41, 9 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not make up new terms

Please do not make up new terms that are not in use, like "Afro-Italian". When Italians make up and start using this term then we can change the article to "Afro-Italian", but until then please do not make up terms (that is original research). Wikipedia is not an instrument of social change. Social change first happens, then Wikipedia can write about it. It is better to say "Africans in Italy", just like Chinese people in Italy. CanuckAnthropologist (talk) 23:52, 27 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Again, an editor has seen fit to declare that the term Afro-Italian does not exist, despite there bneing over 2000 Google hits on the subject. I'd like a serious discussion to take place on whether or not the term "really exists". One editor's subjective experience of never having heard the term should not count, as it isn't a reliable source.--Ramdrake (talk) 01:16, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Look, dude, the term does not exist. It just doesn't. Like I typed in the revision history thing, you cannot always go on Google searches. Most those hits were blogs. Sometimes, you have to go by real world concepts and cultures. From what I understand, blacks who are from Italy don't call themselves that. We cannot go crazy and make up names. If there is some cultural awakening or whatever like with African American back in the 1960s, 1970s, and 1980s, then we can add it. Until then, it's all hearsay. Fclass (talk) 01:54, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Stop changing the title. It's fine. Leave it alone. Fclass (talk) 16:00, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm Italian and the term: Afro-Italian doesn't exist, is an absolut mistake. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Protesilao1978 (talk • contribs) 20:33, 6 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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African immigrants to Italy

In italy are 2 millions for africans immigrant!! thats not true 700,000 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.35.251.97 (talk) 17:40, 7 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Article title

I have moved this article back to Italians of African descent from African immigrants to Italy. If the article includes people born in Italy, then it is obviously inaccurate to call them Italian immigrants, even if they don't automatically gain Italian citizenship. ... discospinster _talk 02:51, 30 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

STOP!! is impossible! don' t canc the BLACK PEOPLE IN ITALY!! looke in FRANCE!! how many in FRANCE??? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.35.244.34 (talk) 00:25, 8 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

where is the MASSAGE?? he speack ITALIAN??? speack with me!!