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Wholesale deletion of data, without thinking

Thanks for deleting everything !

I improved the Deva Victrix page by adding a separate section for the elliptical building, as this is perhaps the most interesting building on the site. I also added a new section for the Market Hall inscription. The former had one reference to Ellis, the latter none.

And then along comes the mighty Dougweller and deletes the whole lot. Had you even heard of the Deva fortress before now? No, I thought not. So Wiki readers are denied any knowledge of the Market Hall inscription and Elliptical Building, and because of what? Because of Dougweller's encyclopaedic knowledge? The update had little or nothing to do with that Ellis book at all - it all came from Chester Archaeology. Did you even bother to read the update?

Ditto the other pages I added to. Had you even heard of the Elagabal of Elagabalus before today?? I doubt it.

I have written to the archaeologists at Chester to complain about your actions (I live there). They may well be too busy to improve the site, and so it is often up to those with and interest in the locale to assist. It is not your job to demolish every improvement that is made to the Chester sites.

I shall also be making a formal complaint to site administrators at Wiki.

Narwhal2 (talk) 20:08, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

That was an error. I've restored it, except of course the COI bit. Dougweller (talk) 20:15, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

Turned out this was one of several sock puppets of a fringe writer, Ralph Ellis, all now blocked by another editor. Dougweller (talk) 20:04, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

Some vs. Many

There are editors on the History of Human Rights page indicating that the word "some" is weasel? Many is a judgment of quantity, which is not appropriate for encyclopedic material. Moreover, "some" entails "many" and where as "many" does not entail "some." Thus the word "some" is more appropriate in article. In addition, on this specific issue regarding the human rights questions, some has been advocated as the correct usage by editors. The talk and edit record indicates this. Lastly, wouldn't a reference be needed to indicate from a reliable source that "many" believe in order for the word "many" to be included. Can I get your feedback on this issue? Thanks. GoetheFromm (talk) 20:23, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

'Some' can be a weasel word, but usually that's when there are no sources, not the case here I believe. I'd have to think about the rest and I'm too tired to do that. Dougweller (talk) 21:59, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

Hi, DougWeller, I know that you are busy, (thank for all your hard work, truly) but I wanted to get your feedback on this question whenever you get a chance. Best, GoetheFromm (talk) 18:11, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

It's not straightforward. Thinking again about 'some', and not necessarily in the cylinder context, 'some' can also imply 'only a few', eg 'some biologists believe in the theory of evolution'. Context is key. And normally yes, you'd want 'many' to have a source, but there would probably be exceptions where it wouldn't be controversial. 'Many Republicans don't like Obama' probably doesn't need a citation, right? Dougweller (talk) 18:41, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

I agree that it's not straitforward. With regards to the Republican example: one could say that given the fact that Obama is a democrat and that republicans are the opposing party to the democrats that it follows that many republicans don't like Obama the democrat. Thus, that example passes the stringency of the word "Many" (and by default "Some"). In the context of the human rights page, the issue as to who or how many are in support of the Cyrus Cylinder being a a declaration of human rights, is up for debate (as evidenced by the continual talks regarding it). As "Many" requires a gerater burden of evidence to be utilized, the word "some" with all its limitations, seems to be the right choice on the issue. Tell me your thoughts on my argument. GoetheFromm (talk) 23:34, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

General Sanctions issue

Hello Doug, I am requesting that you apply the General Sanctions template ({{sanctions}}) on the Cryptozoology talk page due to the recent edit warring that has been occurring there. You probably remember that I was sent to an ANI in relation to my editing on that article, where the general suggestion of the committee was that I refrain from editing the topic. I have done so, but I still remain a part of the related WikiProject, and have an interest in keeping the members from violating Wikipedia policy. I think that by having this template applied it would remind the involved editors to work more collaboratively.--Novus Orator 00:25, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:General sanctions. You can ask at ANI. Dougweller (talk) 10:49, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the help.--Novus Orator 02:26, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

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Oh oh

I can feel an edit war brewing on the Achaemenid Empire page, check it out please, if you get a chance. Editor seems to removing sourced material with no relevant rationale. GoetheFromm (talk) 18:38, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

He's giving a rationale and you definitely need to read WP:VANDAL, that's not vandalism. I will say that the Zorastrianism website isn't a reliable source for this, and the comment from the Brooklyn College professor definitely doesn't belong there. He was a very minor academic in an education department: "Dr. Philip L. Groisser was a Brooklyn College Assistant Professor in the Education Department from 1960 through 1974 in its School of General Studies." He wrote textbooks for highschool students.[1] Surely you don't think it belongs in the article? Dougweller (talk) 07:29, 25 December 2010 (UTC)

could you indicate whether

your might be interested in what looks like an attack on an ed - I dont want to go to noticeboard - as it looks like a direct hit might be needed? SatuSuro 07:09, 25 December 2010 (UTC)

wheesh fixed already - sorry to have bothered - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Supreme_Deliciousness_is_from_Syria_and_lives_in_Sweden.SatuSuro 07:13, 25 December 2010 (UTC)

I saw the edit at damascus - and it looked like one of those dont bother me with warnings - I am on a mission type eds - cheers - happy christmas anyways SatuSuro 07:15, 25 December 2010 (UTC)

Wrong Cyrus Article

Hi Dougweller, your comment on Cyrus Cylinder [2] was presumably meant for Cyrus the Great. I've take the liberty of moving it manually. Hope that's ok. shellac (talk) 19:52, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

Doh! Yes, thanks. I wish I'd never heard of these two articles sometimes. Your action is very much appreciated. Dougweller (talk) 20:20, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

Thumbs up!

Thanks Dougweller and others for improving the ACIM article. ThePlanter (talk) 12:34, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

Thumbs up!

Thanks Dougweller and others for improving the ACIM article. ThePlanter (talk) 12:35, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

Typo in unblock review

I stated that it was never intended to be infinite, not indefinite. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 02:32, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

Opps, what a difference two letters make. Fixed. Sorry about that. Dougweller (talk) 06:03, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

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Ok , Sir, let it be there in History, but dont give your message on my page. I request. I have understood my mistake sorry (talk)

Fine. --Dougweller (talk) 14:01, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

Infinite

What's the difference between infinite and indefinite in wiki? Someone65 (talk) 00:31, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

Infinite is forever, indefinite can be between seconds and forever. Indefinite blocks are often used where the hope is that there will be a quick response from both the blocked and of course from a reviewing Administrator. SarekOfVulcan's point was that he'd hoped your unblock request would have received attention earlier than it did, and when it didn't he asked for someone to review it. Dougweller (talk) 05:43, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

Re: Uri(m), not "Uru"

In the article I edited the name for Ur in Akkadian cuneiform to Uri(m), providing six separate references on the matter, including Akkadian glossaries, cuneiform transcriptions, etc. and I can provide more. The source used for "Uru" only cites this as a speculative Akkadian pronunciation (not as a bona-fide cuneiform transcription), as a sort of "bridging proposal", between "Urim" and "Ur", but this speculative pronunciation is overruled by all transcriptions from Akkadian cuneiform, which indicate that it was Urim in classical Akkadian (old Babylonian), and "Uri" in late Akkadian (e.g. neo-Assyrian, early Persian era). The evidence is overwhelming. One source I cited explicitly contradicted the notion that "Urim" would have been reduced to a "Semitic nominative form" ending in -u or -um, stating that the name is invariable in Akkadian. The pronunciation "Uru" is simply not supported by the facts and hard evidence. If you want to mention it within the text as a speculative pronunciation that may have been used, then put it inside the article text, but not in the headline. Someone has even tried to ban me from making edits on the "Ur" article. I am changing it back to Uri(m), and I hope this won't be reverted again.205.68.95.65 (talk) 16:36, 29 December 2010 (UTC)J.D.