Talk:List of best-selling music artists

Album+Sigles

why you had delete my post if you hadn't controll or answer? lady gaga is here with singles+albums, why another singer like Anastacia, Cramberries, Mina etc etc aren't here with singles+album?. Britney sold only 40 milion album not 200, 200 if you count album+singles. The law is equal for everyone so or you add other singers with album+singles or delete who are here with it and not with only album. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AccendiLaLuce (talk • contribs) 00:44, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

Your previous post was archived automatically because no one responded to it within 25 days. All artists on this list have claimed sales which include sales of singles and albums, no artist here (except Enya) have sales which include albums only.

Looking at the talk page archives, The Cranberries have almost 50% in certified sales of 50m so due to our new rules can be included on this list with a reliable source. As for Anastacia she has no sales to speak of in the US and the Daily Mail only says 20 million records. Records always means albums + singles and not just albums. Mina is just an Italian phenomenon, with little sales elsewhere. It is possible she has sold enough in Italy alone to get on the list (Johnny Hallyday for instance sold over 60m just in France) but without any evidence of certifications it is not possible to put her on this list atm, as FIMI has only recently started publishing a list of certifications to the public. Mattg82 (talk) 00:47, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Mina has sold over 150 millions cd, Laura Pausini has sold over 70 million cd...."It is possible she has sold enough in Italy alone to get on the list" what?? are you crazy? cranberries has sold more than 50 millions and Anastacia too. christina aguilera has sold 100 million cd but there was wrote only albums (50 million) etc etc.... please control what you write and say --AccendiLaLuce (talk) 05:09, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

AccendiLaLuce, I strongly suggest you to remain civil when communicating with fellow wikipedians. Perhaps reading up WP:Civility would be a good starting point.--Harout72 (talk) 06:01, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

I said it was possible I didn't say it was true, I've never even heard of her before :) If you disagree then I have no problem with that but to put artists on this list, claimed sales need to be supported by at least 15% in certified sales and unfortunately there is no publicly available certification evidence for Mina. The only certification I have found for her is from IFPI in 1999 seen here (1m sales for Mina Celentano).

I've already mentioned The Cranberries can be inserted onto the list with a reliable source, all artists on the list have to have their claimed sales supported with highly reliable sources. Plus Anastasia has not sold 50m records, the reliable source I gave above says 20m records. Christina Aguilera is on the list with 50m records (albums + singles) and not just albums.

It is clear that English is not your native language and therefore it is hard to understand clearly what each other is saying. There is something lost in translation between each us. Mattg82 (talk) 15:37, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

italian wikiedia says: Anastacia 50 million, The cranberries 50 million Christina Aguilera 100million Mina 150 million mina's italian source http://www.repubblica.it/spettacoli-e-cultura/2010/03/25/news/mina-pani-2888803/ Christina's italian source http://music.msn.com/music/features/christina-aguilera/ for others there is only sold as written, not a real source --AccendiLaLuce (talk) 16:21, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

The pages on Italian WP do not correspond with the cited sources. The source for Aguilera states 42 million albums and does not mention singles. Same problem for Anastacia, the source cited says 17 million albums. Mattg82 (talk) 17:22, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

and the othes? laura pausini 70 million mina 150 cranberries 50... singles+albums for all...--AccendiLaLuce (talk) 08:45, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

As I've already explained, to put artists on this list, claimed sales need to be supported by a minimum of 15% in certified sales. So Mina cannot be included on this list because she does not meet this criteria. The same goes for Laura Pausini she also does not meet the minimum of 15% in certified sales.

The Cranberries can be included but you need to find a reliable source which says 50 million records. The source on Italian WP is not reliable enough. It is a good source as it is on RAI's website but it is not a highly reliable source which is required for this list. Mattg82 (talk) 02:32, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

Erm as for Laura Pausini she need further investigation as see has impressive sales in the US (For a non English singer) and over 4 million in Europe. Mattg82 (talk) 02:41, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

While I'm not sure what kind of figures sources claim for Pausini, I'd like to clarify something about Laura Pausini's US certified sales. The US certifications that Pausini has collected are Latin type of certifications, which were initially launched at Gold=100,000 and Platinum=200,000. All in all, I see 600,000 units for Pausini issued by RIAA. The only Italian artist that might soon, in the near future, have a chance of getting on the list is probably Eros Ramazzotti who has countless certifications almost everywhere in Europe including 5.7 million in Germany, 3.1 million in France, 1.4 million in Switzerland and 14 million European certified albums between 1996-present, not to mention 1.2 million Latin type of US certifications.--Harout72 (talk) 03:00, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

why italian source are not valid and engliesh yes?-.- mina had published over 1000 songs, she has got 150 million -.- instead of saying no is not true, check. I do not do it because I do not know English well and I could be wrong with the sources. laura pausini....from 70milion to 4...lol....better controllù

Anastacia:

• Not That Kind 5 million+
• Freak Of Nature 11 million+
• Anastacia 10 million+
• Pieces Of a Dream 5 million+
• Heavy Rotation 600 000
• Left Outside Alone 5 Million
• Sick And Tired 4 million

it says so on wikipedia Italy, only with this she has 45 million+ ....with only 2 single...she has got more than 50 million single+album--AccendiLaLuce (talk) 05:44, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

Ok, I'm getting a bit tired of this. Try to understand, Wikipedia cannot source Wikipedia. The figure is wrong anyways, foreign language Wikipedia is practically run and written by toddlers. Please don't bring this up again.--CallMeNathan • Talk2Me 03:03, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

just because you can not rely on wikipedia check instead of writing bla bla bla--AccendiLaLuce (talk) 18:08, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

anyone?xD--AccendiLaLuce (talk) 09:42, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

mmhhh???--AccendiLaLuce (talk) 22:58, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:List_of_best-selling_music_artists#Rihanna.27s_Source --AccendiLaLuce (talk) 05:23, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

Destiny's Child / Beyonce

Destiny's Child is the biggest selling female group of all time, Selling over 50 million albums as stated. No problem. Beyonce solo has sold about 20-25 million albums worldwide solo and on this page it is stated Beyonce as 75 million. Which including Destiny Child this is correct... But as a solo artist this is wrong. I have no problems but if that is the case then Kelly Rowland should be also up here. 50 Million with Destiny's Child and 3.5 Million Solo. If is false for it to be stated "Beyonce of the biggest selling artist of all time selling over 75 million album". You have to be fair so it either needs to be removed or Kelly Rowland to added at 54 Million, Michelle Williams at 51 Million and Letoya Luckett at 51

Million. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.142.191.254

(talk) 19:32, 24 

February 2011 (UTC)

Destinys Child did not sell 50 million records. That number includes solo sales before the group disbanded in 2005 or 2006. Evey source says that the group sold 50 million including solos. 50 million - Dangerously in Love - Kellis solo - Michelles two solos = Destinys Childs sales. It is not 50 million. A recent MTV interview with Matthew Knowles states that they sold 40 million records. It needs to be removed this group biggest album only sold 8 million in the US

-I know this may be long: But should Destiny's Child's album and single sales be listed under both the Destiny's Child name and under Beyonce's' solo name? That actually doesn't seem correct. That would be counting the same album unit twice if you were to do that, three times if you also count it under Kelly Rowland, four times if you also count it under Michelle Williams, etc. Although Beyonce was the lead singer of DC, there were other members in the group who contributed to its success, such as Rowland and Williams, particulary Rowland. So should Beyonce just be able to claim all the sales of Destiny's Child's records? No she shouldn't. On several singles from their albums they took turns singing the verses; and on songs like Bootylicious, Rowland sang more on that song than Beyonce did (but you wouldn't know that by looking at the video as it mostly showed Beyonce). Now some people bought that album because of that single (which was mostly sung by Rowland) but the sales are going to be listed under Beyonce's name?; that's not right. The correct way to handle this is to count Destiny Child's albums, singles, and video/DVD sales under Destiny's Child, and count all their solo records and any solo video/DVD sales under their own respective names. This way a record unit isn't being counted two, three, or four times when it actually sold once. Destiny's Child has sold about 40 million albums worldwide, but it states here that Beyonce has sold 75 million worldwide. I assume that's because the DC sale numbers are being added into Beyonce's sale numbers. That's not accurate to do; Beyonce should be listed as 35 million records sold.

-Now some people cannot live if Beyonce's name isn't on this list as a solo artist (they will just die, they can't take it). Just having the Destiny's Child name here on the list isn't good enough for them. But the article only shows acts of at least 50 million sales. Well, a new sales level (plus a "Notes" section) could be created. The new level: 49 million - 35 million. This would get Beyonce added in this section at 35 million, and in the "Notes" section on the far right write "75 million if Destiny's Child sales included". (By the way, the Supremes are absent from this list as it currently stands). Incidentally, the Supremes' Wikipedia article states they sold over 100 million albums as a group, and Diana Ross' article states she sold over 100 million albums. Now of course she didn't sell an additional 100 million albums after she left the Supremes. Not to mention the fact there was a time when the Supremes made albums after Ross left the group, yet she has their sales tallied under her solo name; that's not right. This is why solo artists should have their own sales tallied and listed under the "best selling musicians" list and a "Notes" section that states what their sales are if their previous group is included. The only thing to wonder about is will a section consisting of 49-35 million selling acts be too large, or will it be about the same size or slightly larger than the other sections? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.251.112.134 (talk) 07:04, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

Another option would be to leave the minimum level of the list at 50 million, and create the "Notes" section after the "country of origin", "period active", "genre", "total certified sales", and "claimed sales" columns. Then in this section write any necessary notes that pertain to that artists sales. For Beyonce, for instance, the notes section would say "also includes Destiny's Child sales" or something to that effect. If Diana Ross were on the list it would say "also includes the Supremes sales". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.251.112.134 (talk) 23:09, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

TLC

This group has sold more than 60 million records according to billboard magazine. They should have been added. Their US sales is more than 30 million. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.54.90.75 (talk) 03:50, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Bon Jovi

i know there is no use for me to do this, but it has been bugging me all day

Bon Jovi should have 130 million instead of 120 million http://www.anrworldwide.com/newsletter/20101004.php http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/weekly-music-agenda-roxy-music-and-bon-jovi-launch-tours-2191422.html http://entertainment.ca.msn.com/celebs/news/article.aspx?cp-documentid=25046629

and just this year bon jovi sold 2 million digital tracks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wildinthestreets (talk • contribs) 04:59, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

Since Bon Jovi have released their first record in 1984 and their available certified sales are almost 66 million which is enough to meet the requirement (see the requirement-percentages above), I have updated Bon Jovi's claimed figure using the article by The Independent.--Harout72 (talk) 17:03, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

Barry White

Does Barry White's certified sales support his claimed sales? His US album certifications come around 11m. I don't know about other markets though Skaterboy2012 (talk) 12:19, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

Barry White's US certified sales are 16.5 million (11 million albums, 5.5 million singles), UK certified sales are 2.6 million, French certified sales are 1.1 million. See his available certified sales in detail here. So, since he's released his first album in 1973, his available certified sales must cover good 15% of his claimed figure (100 million), and we have some 20% certified sales in his case. I still don't know if he has anything for Canada.--Harout72 (talk) 16:27, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

Johnny Hallyday

Johnny Hallyday is no longer active. Hallyday announced his retirement from performing on 3 December 2007 at the age of 64 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.146.112.216 (talk) 18:57, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

2010 certifications from IFPI Sweden

IFPI Sweden has just released the list of certifications from 2010. link

Sverigetopplistan, the official chart company in Sweden also adds the latest certifications to their website. Current #1 is September's Love CPR and has been certified gold for instance. Mattg82 (talk) 23:04, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

I updated Presley's and Jackson's Swedish certified sales. Also inserted AC/DC's Swedish certified sales.--Harout72 (talk) 00:48, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Christina Aguilera

Christina Aguilera's sales in the list are just of albums, while other entertainers like Lady Gaga and Britney claimmed sales of 100 and 55 million respectively because of their singles sales. Christina Aguilera has sold way more singles than britney, but I can't find any source. Does anyone knows one? Lxhizy! (talk) 05:29, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

The source The Daily Telegraph that supports Aguilera's 50 million claimed sales, states records, meaning albums, singles, videos, not only albums. And 50 million for Aguilera is quite right based on her available certified sales, see this archived discussion.--Harout72 (talk) 05:54, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Donna Summer

why she isn't here????--AccendiLaLuce (talk) 05:12, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

uhm...--AccendiLaLuce (talk) 22:31, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

According to the RIAA, I would figure Donna Summer's sales of albums and singles in the United States would stand at about 23 million; that would be 13 million albums and 10 million singles, which would also include albums and singles that were released but did not reach the minimum certification of gold. That's her US sales. Her international sales I'm not so sure of, but I believe Donna Summer's outside-of-the-US sales are similar to her US sales. So if you figure about 20 million or so in the rest of the world, that would give her about 43 million albums and singles sold total. Pretty impressive, but not enough to be on the list which starts at 50 million. She's a great performer so who's to say she won't reach that one day, right? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.251.112.134 (talk) 22:56, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

Rihanna's Source

why rihanna is here with german's source and anastacia can't be here with italian's source? delete rihanna or add anastacia, laura pausini, mina and the cranberries --AccendiLaLuce (talk) 05:22, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

Shakira

The source isn't valid because is in french. You said that the sources must be in English and how can we control that it is a real source? --2811Butterfly (talk) 05:24, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

Sources don't have to be in English in order to be acceptable. We have numerous sources that are not in English and they are perfectly reliable.--Harout72 (talk) 07:34, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

and why italian's source are not valid? because must be in english?--AccendiLaLuce (talk) 07:53, 6 March 2011 (UTC)--AccendiLaLuce (talk) 07:52, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

I wrote this because a wikipedian told that italian source are not acceptable..--2811Butterfly (talk) 07:54, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

I'm sure you have misunderstood, could you tell me where you've come across this discussion, perhaps I can clarify things for you.--Harout72 (talk) 16:51, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:List_of_best-selling_music_artists#Album.2BSigles --AccendiLaLuce (talk) 00:22, 7 March 2011 (UTC)

You told that the source must be in english because it must be accesible to all, but reading some sources of artist, I saw sources in german, french, japanese ecc..The problem is: you do rule only for someone? --2811Butterfly (talk) 05:34, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

in fact you told me "italian's sources are not valid because are italians, must be english for accessible to all"..so...how they can be here?--AccendiLaLuce (talk) 05:39, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:List_of_best-selling_music_artists#Album.2BSigles--AccendiLaLuce (talk) 18:58, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

OK, let me try and clarify that for you if I may. I believe you are speaking of the following sentence posted by Mattg82 "The source on Italian WP is not reliable enough. It is a good source as it is on RAI's website but it is not a highly reliable source which is required for this list", correct? Actually, Mattg82 is absolutely correct for saying that that source is not reliable enough, let me point out that he is not saying it's not reliable enough because it's in Italian, he is simply saying that in general that source is not highly reliable enough for this list as we only accept highly reliable sources, and that here is not one. Let me also emphasize that Mattg82 or even I would have said the same if that very source was in English. I Hope you understand now. Also, I'd like to inform you, in case you don't know this yet, we look at certified sales of artists too, besides sources. Please see the requirement-percentages above at the top of this discussion page.--Harout72 (talk) 00:49, 7 March 2011 (UTC)

Anastacia

then put this, i can't, it is protected http://www.lastfm.it/music/Anastacia/+wiki 50 million --AccendiLaLuce (talk) 18:29, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

Last FM cannot be regarded as reliable as the content of it can be submitted by anyone, very much like Wikipedia. Also, see others commenting on the reliability of LastFM here at WP:RSN. In the meantime, I will go over Anastiacia's certified sales and see if it is at least 25 million, which is what we'd need to add her into the list, that is of course if we ever locate a reliable source claiming 50 million. Meaning she would need at least 50% in certified sales supporting her claimed figure of 50 million.--Harout72 (talk) 23:39, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

http://youwin.forumfree.it/?t=48535454 this? --AccendiLaLuce (talk) 00:07, 9 March 2011 (UTC)

this too http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e299XOILBAI the judge (the woman with glass) says 50 milions bla bla bla....it is rai 2...it shoud be trusted...--AccendiLaLuce (talk) 00:27, 9 March 2011 (UTC)

I've finished going over Anastacia's certified sales, which I uploaded here, and it is only 11,640,400 from all those markets where Anastacia seems to have done well. That is only 23% certified sales for 50 million claim, which is not going to do it for an artist who's released the first album/single in 2000. I'm afraid, we cannot add Anastacia into the list regardless of what sources we ever locate for her. Again, please see the certifications requirement-percentages above at the top of this discussion page.--Harout72 (talk) 01:07, 9 March 2011 (UTC)

freak of nature has sold more than 11.5 million -.- it is not possible — Preceding unsigned comment added by AccendiLaLuce (talk • contribs) 01:44, 9 March 2011 (UTC)

give me your source please--AccendiLaLuce (talk) 01:47, 9 March 2011 (UTC)

The certifications are from the web sites of the certifying agencies, all of which you can find at the top of this discussion page including BPI, Bundesverband Musikindustrie, SNEP, ARIA, NVPI etc. Again don't be fooled by inflated figures that you most probably have come across in unreliable sources. Certified sales don't lie, they are a very solid way of determining whether claimed figures are true or not. Freak of Nature has sold just over 3 million units in the entire European continent, and Europe is where Anastacia is most popular, also bear in mind that Anastacia has not done well in the USA, which is the largest music market in the world.--Harout72 (talk) 02:04, 9 March 2011 (UTC)

can you give me that's sites?--AccendiLaLuce (talk) 03:43, 9 March 2011 (UTC)

if the total is 11.600.400.... http://www.mediatraffic.de/tracks-2004.htm freak of nature 3 million left outside alone 4.6 million (2004 only ) sick and tired 3.8 million (2004 only) it is over 11 million only with those....miss 4 album and twenty single...how is possible? please...--AccendiLaLuce (talk) 03:53, 9 March 2011 (UTC)

AccendiLaLuce, please read slowly and carefully so you can understand what editors are saying to you. As I told you above, those sites are located at the top of this page, but here they all are:

UK certified sales: 3,300,000 Albums, 400,000 Singles (Total: 3,700,000)

German certified sales: 2,450,000 Albums, 950,000 Singles, 25,000 Videos (Total: 3,425,000)

French certified sales: 900,000 Albums, 750,000 Singles (Total: 1,650,000)

Australian certified sales: 455,000 Albums, 350,000 Singles (Total: 805,000)

Dutch certified sales: 520,000 Albums, 40,000 Singles (Total: 560,000)

Swedish certified sales: 260,000 Albums, 15,000 Singles (Total: 275,000)

Swiss certified sales: 525,000 Albums, 65,000 Singles (Total: 590,000)

Norwegian certified sales: 190,000 Albums, 20,000 Singles (Total: 210,000)

Austrian certified sales: 180,000 Albums, 80,000 Singles (Total: 260,000)

Finnish certified sales: 115,400 Albums (Total: 115,400)

Polish certified sales: 50,000 Albums (Total: 50,000)

Due to weak sales, there are no certified sales for USA, Mexico, Brazil, Argentina. Also, certified-sales and actual-sales are two different things. Here at this page, we are to look at available certified sales per our new resolution to determine who goes on the list and who doesn't, and you can find the discussion of that very resolution here. By the way, Mediatraffic.de is as unreliable as a source can get.--Harout72 (talk) 04:56, 9 March 2011 (UTC)

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why every site says different thing?-.- where is italy? so...anastacia hasn't good sales in short... --AccendiLaLuce (talk) 16:11, 9 March 2011 (UTC)

look http://jmenternational.com/work/awards/2005/anastacia/ in 2005 had sold over 20 million, then your sources are not very reliable --AccendiLaLuce (talk) 05:08, 10 March 2011 (UTC)

AccendiLaLuce, my sources are as reliable as sources can ever get, and you would know that if you knew who BPI, Bundesverband Musikindustrie, SNEP are. I repeatedly tried to explain to you that certified sales (which is what you see above posted by me) and actual sales are two different things. Now the 20 million in actual sales is exactly where Anastacia's true sales are, and her available certified sales do not support anything above that.--Harout72 (talk) 16:17, 10 March 2011 (UTC)

why those sites are more reible than her' label?-.-why sony is not reible? no sense-.- if the sony are not reible how can be your sites?-.- --AccendiLaLuce (talk) 23:02, 10 March 2011 (UTC)

I never said anything about Sony being unreliable, please read through carefully. It's quite obvious that no matter how may different ways I tried to explain the same thing to you, you probably can't understand due to your lack of knowledge in English language. I think, I've explained enough and consider this discussion ended.--Harout72 (talk) 01:40, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

the source of AccendiLaLuce is a sony source...so what's the problem?--2811Butterfly (talk) 08:18, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

2811Butterfly, you don't see this list having artists with 20 million claims, do you?--Harout72 (talk) 16:36, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

is a 2005's photo and are 20 milion only for album...anyway...it shows that your sources are not so reliable --2811Butterfly (talk) 00:28, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

The Cranberries

cranberries ha sold 50 million http://www.radio.rai.it/grr/view.cfm?V_IDNOTIZIA=53349&Q_PROG_ID=421&Tematica=18 is tru?--AccendiLaLuce (talk) 22:32, 9 March 2011 (UTC)

In my opinion 50 million is a little inflated for The Cranberries, but if you find a highly reliable source such as CNN, BBC, Fox News etc. claiming 50 million for The Cranberries, then we could add them into the list as they have begun in 1993 and their available certified sales are 21.5 million, that is 43% for 50 million claim. For artists begun between 1990-2000, we require 35-50% certified sales and they seem to meet that bracket. Again, Rai Italia Radio is not going to do it as we don't accept claims by Radio Stations, other Italian news services would do the job.--Harout72 (talk) 01:44, 10 March 2011 (UTC)

my sorcers are never valid-.- only your sources are valid? for anastacia, sony and rai tv are not valid-.- for cranberries rai is not valid-.- so, make this list alone -.---AccendiLaLuce (talk) 22:03, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

destinys child

they have sold 50 million including solo sales even the destinyschild.com states this. Their sales are actually around 40 million. They dont need to be there. If you are going to allow solos sales to be included with group sales then the Jackson Five needed to be listed at 800 million along with Michael Jackson. The fans of the Beyonce want make her seem larger than she actually is, they were never the biggest girl group of all time remove this 50 million sales bullshit because solo sales and group sales cannot give you a group sale.

Lady Gaga sales

Okay so Good Morning American says that she's sold 60 million singles and that is a TV show to the public, so it must be CORRECT right?

So 60 million singles + 15-20 million albums = 75-80 million total sales right??

Please change it! It's been a while already and she doesn't have 55 million total sales anymore.

Plus, on her main Wiki page, it says she has sold and estimated "60 million singles and 23 million albums" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lady_Gaga#cite_note-4

The GMA interview is here and it states how many singles she has sold in the beginning: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=pNdJTxZFaPI —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.149.142.11 (talk) 06:54, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

she'd sold 40 million singles and 15 million albums

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2010/06/12/2010-06-12_seen_this_act_before_word_to_gaga__madonna_did_it_first_and_did_it_better.html#ixzz1Fnusjel7 can you read-.- — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2811Butterfly (talk • contribs) 07:58, 6 March 2011 (UTC) --2811Butterfly (talk) 08:02, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

your source says 15+40=55....what are you saying?--AccendiLaLuce (talk) 07:59, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

Its staying the same. Her sales are inflated enough as it is. Its been discussed already before. Plus your source doesn't help you.--CallMeNathan • Talk2Me 09:06, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

The current 55 million is high enough for Lady Gaga as her certified sales are only 37.3 million from the music markets which cover good 85-90% of all the global sales. And that is 68% of the 55 million, which is exactly what we should have per our certification-percentage requirements, see the requirements above.--Harout72 (talk) 17:01, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

Cliff Richard sold over 260 million

It's time you updated your research methods for your list. Record companies don't sways apply for certified sales and what of the sales of records that just fall short of going gold. If you want to give an accurate list you need to luck at other sources. For example it's well documented that cliff Richard has sold over .260 million records. Every other site on the Internet can recognise this but you. Please put cliff in your list where he belongs. Just out of interest what do you makes Cliff's sales to be as you don't even have him in the 50 million bracket of your list. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.200.213.189 (talk) 23:05, 9 March 2011 (UTC)

Our operating method is very logical. You might want to look at the requirements for certified sales at the top of this page, all artists begun before 1975 need to have their claimed figures supported by 15% certified sales. Since Richard's available certified sales are only 11,860,000, he can only be added to the list with some 75 million claim.--Harout72 (talk) 01:31, 10 March 2011 (UTC)

Phil Collins

Phil Collins is no longer active. On March 7, Collins posted a message to his fans on his own website, confirming his intention to retire in order to focus on his family life. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.96.85.192 (talk) 17:47, 10 March 2011 (UTC)

 Done. Mattg82 (talk) 18:26, 10 March 2011 (UTC)

Eurythmics

Eurythmics are no longer an active musical group, since their reunion tour ended in 2005. Lennox stated that although she and Stewart remain friends, she does not foresee any further Eurythmics projects in the future.

 Done. Mattg82 (talk) 18:26, 10 March 2011 (UTC)

The Four Seasons

The Four Seasons need to be added. According to their page, they've sold 175 million records. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.172.212.239 (talk) 04:20, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from Auron891249, 11 March 2011

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bee_Gees#Songwriting_success

"The Bee Gees have sold in excess of 220 million records and singles worldwide", not 120 million.

(sorry but I don't know how to edit this page)

Auron891249 (talk) 17:31, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

Actually, the Bee Gees were downgraded from 220 million to 120 million per this discussion. But not long after that we came up with a different resolution, which you could find here. And per our new resolution, the Bee Gees can be placed into the table of 200-299 million along with all their certified sales which make up some 28% for 220 million, that meets the requirement as artists/bands such as the Bee Gees who have released their first record before 1975 would need their claim sales figure supported by at least 15% certified sales, and seems like that is the case with the Bee Gees. Allow some time for me to place them into the table.--Harout72 (talk) 01:31, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

Queen

The recent cite added to drive Queen as having sold 150 million, as opposed to 300, is an agenda driven edit by User:LedRush. The name and edit history indicates that he is a proponent for Queen's 70's rivals Led Zeppelin, and has been involved in a debate on their talk page to drive the sales figures on their article UP! I need not say more. The Queen article has seen the same thing. EMI, although not independent, cited a 300 million albums figure, as did a recent BBC cite and several newspapers. The person who added this ignored all recent material and dug up a five year old article simply to drive the 150 million angle. Should probably be noted. Fans and critics alike (talk) 14:02, 16 March 2011 (UTC)