Talk:Tel Aviv

Ottoman Period

Under the city's history, there is a historically-inaccurate sentence:

"Jaffa began to grow as an urban center in the early 18th century, when the Ottoman government in Constantinople intervened to guard the port and reduce attacks by Bedouins and pirates.[30] However, the real expansion came during the 19th century, when the population grew from 2,500 in 1806 to 17,000 in 1886.[6]"

I am changing "Constantinople" to "Istanbul". Although both are names for the same city, "Constantinople" implies the capital of the Greek-speaking Christian Byzantine Empire. The Turkic and Muslim Ottoman Empire took over the city in 1453, renamed it "Istanbul", and made it the capital of their empire. Let's please be historically and politically accurate. Skyduster (talk) 16:17, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Map

This is about Tel Aviv, Israel. I don't see why the Palestinian Authorities are shown on the map. In an article about a city in an existing, recognized state, I don't see why it is necessary to include in the map what some extremists call their land, because, technically by all definitions, that is ISRAELI LAND. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.146.92.44 (talk) 06:18, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

The land belongs to everyone that lives in it. Please don't bring your extremist politics here. Only the pre-1967 borders are internationally-recognized. The West Bank, Gaza Strip, and Golan Heights fall outside the pre-1967 borders, and their final status is undetermined. All maps of Israel, not just the one used in this article, demarcate the territories from Israel proper. Like it or not, the map used in this article follows convention. Skyduster (talk) 16:15, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

yeah i agree with the first person who wrote here, palestinian authorities aren't even a country and currently ISRAEL is the one who holds those lands so i also think that the palestinian authorities don't need to be mentioned here... like wikipeida doesn't mention any "illegally captured" lands in china and india, wikipedia should mention these lands in israel, at least be consistent

"Editions Universitaires Européennes": unreliable source

"EUE Editions Universitaires Européennes", Verlag Dr. Müller, And Lambert Academic Publishing are publishing houses of the VDM group specialized in reprint of thesis and other academic works. The manuscript is submitted by author who can modify the original thesis text without any editing or peer reviewing, so the final product loses its value as academic peer reviewed work and must fall into the "self-published sources" category.

I've substituted the reference to the EUE book (Catherine Weill-Rochant, Le travail de Patrick Geddes à Tel-Aviv, un plan d'ombre et de lumière, Saarbrücken, Éditions Universitaires Européennes, May 2010) for that of the thesis: Rochant Weill, Catherine (2006). Le plan de Patrick Geddes pour la « ville blanche » de Tel Aviv : une part d’ombre et de lumière. Volume 1 (PDF) (PhD thesis). Paris: Université Paris 8. Retrieved 2010-07-09. Playmobilonhishorse (talk) 12:02, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

The EUE book (Catherine Weill-Rochant, Le travail de Patrick Geddes à Tel-Aviv, un plan d'ombre et de lumière, Saarbrücken, Éditions Universitaires Européennes, May 2010) contains maps and documents, as in the PhD manuscript, and contrary to the link Rochant Weill, Catherine (2006). Le plan de Patrick Geddes pour la « ville blanche » de Tel Aviv : une part d’ombre et de lumière. Volume 1 (PDF) (PhD thesis). Paris: Université Paris 8. Retrieved 2010-07-09. So it is preferable to maintain it, as it is the same text than the thesis, completed by documents. --Mp (talk) 14:56, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Shalom meir tower

this is not the first skyscraper in israel. the first skyscraper building was "EL AL TOWER" in ben-yehuda street that built in 1963. פארוק (talk) 10:43, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

Avoid Peacock Terms - Present Facts in Fair and Balanced Way

Some sections of this entry read like a marketing brochure for tourists. While it is fine to be enthusiastic about Tel Aviv, Wikipedia thrives on fair and balanced writing. For instance, somebody stated that "The economy of Tel Aviv was ranked second in the Middle East in 2005" and that "in 2010 it was ranked 50th in the world." This statement omits an important fact: in 2010 Tel Aviv was no longer ranked second in the Middle East, but fourth, behind Dubai (27th), Istanbul (41st) and Cairo (43rd). Such omission of facts undermines the credibility of our writing and the purpose of Wikipedia . So, use less "major", "important", and "great" and use more facts, less opinions. Thank you! TippTopp (talk) 23:22, 13 December 2010 (UTC)