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The Graphics Lab is a project to improve the graphical content of the Wikimedia projects. Requests for image improvements can be added to the workshop pages: Illustrations, Photographs and Maps. For questions or suggestions one can use the talk pages: Talk:Graphics Lab, Talk:Illustrations, Talk:Photographs and Talk:Maps.
This specific page is the requests page for the illustration workshop. Anyone can make a request for an illustration to be improved or created for a Wikipedia article. Clicking the "New Request" button will bring you to a standard template for submitting requests, as well as general advice that should be followed.

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Please make sure your request is "legitimate" by copyright. If the image(s) are in the public domain or freely licensed, you are fine. If the image(s) are "Fair use", there are only certain things we can do with them without falling afoul of Wikipedia's fair-use policies.
- If you are requesting assistance with a copyright or fair-use image, don't display it on this page; place {{GLNF|Example.png|caption|align=left}} to create a link to it. Do not add the File: extension. Our fair-use policy does not allow displaying fair-use images out of their articles on ANY account.
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Want a 2π-unrolled version of our existing π-unrolled animation

Stale

– DyceBot (talk) 07:00, 10 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Image of π being unrolled

Article(s): Radian, Turn (geometry), Perimeter and Circumference

Request: This is a great animation, and this is a request for a (relatively minor) variant of it. The current version shows a circle of diameter one whose circumference is π. In many contexts it would be nice to have a version where the circle has radius one instead (diameter two) and a circumference of 2π. Because this is an animation, I'm not sure SVG enters the picture (I'd defer to the illustrators if I'm wrong on that; the photography workshop has confirmed that it isn't theirs just because it is a raster rather than an SVG). The new image would not replace the existing one but would have a new name (Twopi-unrolled.gif, I suppose, unless someone has a better idea). Discussion of the mathematics is at File talk:Pi-unrolled-720.gif#Radians and WT:MATH has been consulted (on 23 April 2011). Kingdon (talk) 01:17, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion(s): This is, to my knowledge, a non-trivial task. The GIF contains frames of the animation, with everything flattened out, and it happens that the wheel overlaps with the numbers in multiple frames. Without access to the original photoshop file, this would require first cleaning out each individual frame, followed by re-drawing the numbers. It would take about the same amount of time to recreate one from scratch (2 hours?) Jon C (talk) 17:53, 25 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The original author is User:John Reid who has not edited wikipedia since 2006, so I'm not sure I have high hopes for being able to track down the original photoshop (I didn't find any reason to think the original had been uploaded anywhere). User:Harp created File:Pi-unrolled slow.gif and seems to be more potentially active, but I suppose slowing it down is a much easier task than redrawing the numbers as you describe. I think it would be great if someone had the time to recreate this from scratch (and upload the source document, I suppose). If there is a better place to make that kind of request, let me know. Kingdon (talk) 19:13, 26 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Company Logo

Stale

– DyceBot (talk) 07:00, 7 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Article(s): User:Amanrajveer/Mars Group

Request: Please Please convert to svg. Thanks. Amanrajveer (talk) 19:22, 11 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion(s): Probably not worth it until the article gets moved to the mainspace, per NFCC #9, fairuse images can't be used in userspaces. Connormah (talk) 21:47, 23 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Bethesda Softworks

Stale

– DyceBot (talk) 07:00, 7 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Done

Article(s): Bethesda Softworks

Request: Remove "SOFTWORKS" and "a Zenimax Media company" and vectorise it or vectorise immediately? Kungfu2187 2187|talk]]) 09:33, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion(s): I have concerns about the copyright and/or trademark issues with this request, especially about removing certain parts of the logo. If anyone can clear this request as not violating any of WP's policies concerning those issues, I'll do it.

It's a non-free image. Maybe the logo without "SOFTWORKS" and "a ZeniMax Media company" was used on http://www.bethblog.com . --Kungfu2187 (talk) 12:02, 15 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

[1]. Could be vectorised. /Lokal _Profil 15:46, 16 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Could pass as PD-text. I'll see what I can do. Connormah (talk) 21:48, 23 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Archdiocese of Westminster COA

Stale

– DyceBot (talk) 07:00, 5 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Existing SVG COA

Article(s): Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Westminster

Request: Please make this an SVG version. When we have this we can use it to re-work File:Brasão Card. Murphy O'Connor.jpg and File:Brasão Vicent Nichols.jpg. Thank you! Mangwanani ^(talk) 16:20, 21 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion(s):

John Henry Newman COA

Stale

– DyceBot (talk) 07:00, 5 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Coat of arms of John Henry Newman
Existing svg elements.

Article(s): John Henry Newman

Request: Please convert to SVG. Mangwanani ^(talk) 16:22, 21 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion(s):

FN F2000 II

Stale

– DyceBot (talk) 07:00, 9 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It needs to be enlarged and vectorised.

Article(s): FN F2000

Request: It needs to be enlarged and vectorised. (again) --Kungfu2187 (talk) 00:45, 22 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion(s): Done Jon C (talk) 17:36, 25 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Blake River Megacaldera Complex

Article(s): Blake River Megacaldera Complex

Request: The article could use some graphics as I plain to start improving the article for GA or even FA. There is five graphics here on page 77 that would be useful to show how the volcano formed. Figure 8 on page 72 would be good to illustrate the volcano's structure. Volcanoguy 07:29, 26 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion(s): All graphics mentioned inside the pdf file are bitmaps, so SVG extracting is not possible. Taking them as png is pretty easy, do those images have any copyright problem? If not I will be happy to help Ufo karadagli (talk) 21:36, 1 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The content is copyrighted as far as I'm aware of. I might not be getting the picture, but the graphics in the pdf file should still be possible to extract. A way to extract them is by pressing F3 on the keyboard while looking at the pdf file graphic then paste that part of the pdf file on Microsoft paint or whatever else there is. It's not possible to start it that way? Volcanoguy 22:24, 1 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

That was what I meant by taking them as PNG. Then tracing must be done to create the SVG version. Real problem is the copyright. As far as I know fair-use is not applicable here we need permission. Ufo karadagli (talk) 04:16, 2 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Can't just make a new one with those as a source? Volcanoguy 16:14, 3 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Splash Damage

Convert it to SVG

Convert it to SVG

Article(s): Splash Damage

Request: Splash Damage logo could Convert it to SVG... Kungfu2187 (talk) 07:50, 26 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion(s): I'll look. Connormah (talk) 01:45, 27 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Couldn't find anything, sorry. Connormah (talk) 23:14, 28 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This is the latest logo. SD haven't introducing the new logo. --Kungfu2187 (talk) 02:31, 30 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

BATTLEFIELD

VECTOR.

Article(s): BATTLEFIELD

Request: There are no something protected by copyright. It is in PD. Kungfu2187 (talk) 02:21, 28 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion(s): The bevels won't go through too well in vector - I'll try and find an official version, but don't get your hopes up. Connormah (talk) 23:10, 28 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Guías de México

Article(s): Guías de México

Request: vectorize, correct colors (they were right to my knowledge when we made the first, they have changed)-should be gold with black outline... Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 09:10, 30 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion(s):

Lewis Machine and Tool Company

SVG File

Article(s): Lewis Machine and Tool Company

Request: Anything can you vectorize the image of the logo? Kungfu2187 (talk) 11:37, 30 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion(s): Request taken by Ufo karadagli.. Ufo karadagli (talk) 10:55, 2 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Done Lewis Machine and Tool Company.svg Ufo karadagli (talk) 11:36, 2 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Skanderbeg and League of Lezhë

Resolved

– Vinie007

Skanderbeg Family Weapon

Article(s): Skanderbeg and League of Lezhë

Request: Please vectorise.... Vinie007 13:57, 30 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion(s): Done: Taken care of in the Top 4 requests. Although I do have some reservations as to the accuracy of the initial coat of arms; some articles suggest that the eagle is black, which would make more sense as subsequent flags of Albania have a black eagle on them. I'm also unsure about the crowns on the eagles, and whether the star should be yellow or white (subsequent flags suggest white). Finding a source with a description of the coat of arms would be a good idea; the original author doesn't seem to indicate where s/he got the idea of what the arms look like... -MissMJ (talk) 23:32, 7 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

(MissMJ (talk) 05:24, 8 June 2011 (UTC)): The following was left on my Commons talk page, which I will paste here in the interest of keeping discussion about changes to the file in a central location:[reply]

Hi, thanks for your contribution, but can you please fix the wings of it? check original file --Vinie007 (talk) 04:57, 8 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The wings being slightly different from the original file is immaterial; please see Blazon, especially: "a coat of arms or flag is primarily defined not by a picture but rather by the wording of its blazon." This allows for the image of a coat of arms to have variation in the details, as long as it still contains the elements described in the blazon. Thus the important thing here is that it is a red shield with a white(?), double-headed, crowned(?) eagle, a yellow(?), six-pointed star and... that blue thing. >_> I'm sure these all have official terms associated with them as part of heraldry, but I don't know what they are. This is why I was asking if there was a sourced description/blazon of the coat of arms, because if there isn't, we're going by a GIF created using information from who-knows-where, and it may not even be an accurate graphical representation of what the coat of arms should be (which is why I was asking about the eagle being white and having crowns, etc.). MissMJ (talk) 05:24, 8 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hi guys, I want to point out that

In every description of the Skanderbeg flag, the color of eagle is black! There were other Albanian nobles which had a white eagle(notably Dukagjini family) however this was not the case of Skanderbeg, so the eagle in coat of arms should be black (IMO).
AFAIK, the wings of the eagle are always down. A picture of original coat of arms is here and also the picture of Skanderbeg stamp (the original one, not the false one). In both cases the wings of the eagle are down not up. This element should be present also.
The color of the background is always red, but I see that we have no problems with that. Hope this helps. Regards Aigest (talk) 21:16, 8 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for providing more information! I've changed the eagle color to black, but I'm not entirely convinced as to the wing position. From what information I've been able to scrape up from some searching, the eagle on this coat of arms subsequently ended up being used on the flag of Albania, and the wings on that flag are in a 90° semi-raised position. While that picture you linked to supports the original GIF of the coat of arms, I can't find a source for it anywhere on that page. Does it say which book/newspaper it came from? It would be super helpful if anyone has access to or could find some kind of... I don't know, either official or historically accepted or something, description of what the coat of arms was. Because all we're going by right now is a randomly scanned illustration and speculation. For what it's worth, I've messaged the original creator of the GIF about the source for his image, but I don't know if the user is still active/checking messages. -MissMJ (talk) 06:37, 10 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Without proper reliable source this image should not be used in wikipedia articles. Flag of Albania was drawn by Faik Conica 500 years after Skanderbeg was born and he made mistake (he was far from being expert in heraldry) and violated Rule of tincture by drawing black eagle on red . I am glad that you MissMJ take good care about the sources. Without them this file should not be used on wikipedia. It is wrong to state that new version is only vector version of the previous image (File:Coa Kastrioti Family.svg is a vector version of this file), because not only the colors are different (most important eagle is black not white) but wings are completely different (it is incorrect to state "The wings being slightly different from the original file is immaterial"). If it is only slightly different, don't change it without reliable sources presented. Without reliable sources there is a risk of misleading the readers of wikipedia articles that Kastrioti COA was different than it really was. Someone who does not AGF, not me, could assume that the main purpose of this change to make Kastrioti COA as much different as possible than Serbian COA in order to support non-Slavic origin and non-Slavic connections of Kastrioti family. Please do not change the color or the wing shape without very reliable sources.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 09:14, 10 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Antid. please read OR. The double-headed eagle is black and the background red [2], so stick to the sources.--— ZjarriRrethues — ^talk 09:51, 10 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This is another misinterpretation of yours. You misinterpreted tertiary source which do not support your claim. It clearly says that Faik Konica was responsible for the flag which has been used 500 years after Skanderbeg was born, and almost 600 years after Kastrioti family became noble family in Albania. It does not support the substantial change of the image.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 10:21, 10 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

What part of the source did I misrepresent? His flag was red and bore a black eagle, even today the symbol of Albania..--— ZjarriRrethues — ^talk 11:34, 10 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Your interpretation of the source you brought does not support the change of the image. Here is Kastrioti emblem discovered by Faik Konica and used by him for cover of his periodical. It is obvious that the form of the eagle on Kastrioti emblem is changed while designing emblem of modern Albania. --Antidiskriminator (talk) 11:59, 10 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Antid, stop trolling. Konica did not invented the banner of Scaderbeg in 1905. Check fact before arguing in vain. Just FYI.

"upon which was the black eagle with two heads" 1835 publication
"The black eagle, in a crimsoned field, the banner of Scanderbeg" 1850 publication
"The family standard of the Castriots, which Scanderbeg carried in his battles, was a black, double- headed eagle on a red field" 1876 publication

As you can see there are many sources before Konica who actually claim this. So as for colors "a black, double- headed eagle on a red field" As for the form of the eagle wings and positions see above my previous post link. Aigest (talk) 12:21, 10 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Please be civil. I am offended with accusation for trolling and expect your apology for it. For every statement I wrote, I presented sources. If sources are wrong, please provide better sources. I never said that Konica invented banner of Skanderbeg but that he discovered it and that he started using it as emblem of new kingdom he desired and that based on Kastrioti emblem he organized designing of emblem of modern Albania. Please clarify what post link support changing the form of eagle wings during vectorizing previous image?--Antidiskriminator (talk) 12:36, 10 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Antid, sincerely I advise you to improve your English. I was saying the color of eagle is black, red background and wings are always down. You then say that "Flag of Albania was drawn by Faik Conica 500 years after Skanderbeg was born and he made mistake (he was far from being expert in heraldry) and violated Rule of tincture by drawing black eagle on red" and also "Someone who does not AGF, not me, could assume that the main purpose of this change to make Kastrioti COA as much different as possible than Serbian COA in order to support non-Slavic origin and non-Slavic connections of Kastrioti family"?! The ZR says "Antid. please read OR. The double-headed eagle is black and the background red, so stick to the sources." you answer as "This is another misinterpretation of yours. You misinterpreted tertiary source which do not support your claim. It clearly says that Faik Konica was responsible for the flag which has been used 500 years after Skanderbeg was born, and almost 600 years after Kastrioti family became noble family in Albania." User ZR than asks you "What part of the source did I misrepresent? His flag was red and bore a black eagle, even today the symbol of Albania". and you answer "Your interpretation of the source you brought does not support the change of the image." Sincerely what do you argue about? From your English expressions it looks like you are trolling. Summarizing, I've claimed above that Scanderbeg flag and coat of arms elements' are:

Black double headed eagle on a red background
Wings are always down (AFAIK) just as here. See Scanderbeg seal double headed eagle, David star, wings down. Same as this XVI century Italian engraving of Kastrioti family coat of arms double headed eagle, David star, wings down.

I am still claiming this. Do you all agree? Aigest (talk) 13:50, 10 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The previous version of the file should be simply vectorized until somebody find some kind of... I don't know, either official or historically accepted or something, description of what the coat of arms was. Because all we're going by right now is a randomly scanned illustration and speculation--Antidiskriminator (talk) 15:10, 10 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Here is what I wrote:

Without proper reliable source this image should not be used in wikipedia articles.
Flag of Albania was drawn by Faik Conica 500 years after Skanderbeg
It is wrong to state that new version is only vector version of the previous image because not only the colors are different (most important eagle is black not white) but wings are completely different (that is obvious to anyone who look at the previous version and the new "vectorized version")

For those claims ZjarriRrethues accused me for OR and added Encyclopedia Britannica link which he misinterpreted to support his claim that my statements are OR.

I still claim what I wrote above because I believe it is wrong to correct any medieval emblem of Kastrioti family to fit emblem of modern Albania without reliable sources. Most important reason for my claim is that it was completly the opposite. Faik Konica used emblem of Skanderbeg to design emblem of modern Albania, not vice versa. What is wrong with my statement which is supported by the author of this image (MissMJ) who stated: “It would be super helpful if anyone has access to or could find some kind of... I don't know, either official or historically accepted or something, description of what the coat of arms was. Because all we're going by right now is a randomly scanned illustration and speculation.” --Antidiskriminator (talk) 15:10, 10 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Antid. what part of Britannica can't you understand or are you disputing? As the sources says it was a black eagle on a red background so do you keep giving the same reply? --— ZjarriRrethues — ^talk 15:53, 10 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

What part of Britannica support your accusation for OR taking in consideration that previous image is obviously different than "vectorized version" both in color and design?--Antidiskriminator (talk) 15:59, 10 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I am happy with this file, so don't try to help me with something i dont want Antidiskriminator --Vinie007 18:09, 10 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Oooookay then. It seems like there's some thing being played out here that y'all need to take to an area of Wikipedia that's more equipped to deal with whatever... issues... you have with each other. But I will at least clarify my statements, so that they are not misconstrued and erroneously used by either side to prop up their arguments:

The original GIF offered up for vectorization (File:StemaeFamiljesKastrioti2.GIF) is not sourced. The only source offered is that Nicholson1989 created the image. We don't know from where this user got the information to create that image.
Aigest has linked to an online forum topic thread which contains an image scanned from some kind of publication that supports the look of File:StemaeFamiljesKastrioti2.GIF. However, the text around that image (run through Google Translate; I don't read Albanian) doesn't seem to indicate its source either.
All of the information being presented in this debate ~~(the most solid of which seems to be Britannica)~~ only talks about the coat of arms having a black, double-headed eagle on a red ground. There is no description of shape, crowns, wing position, and certainly nothing about a yellow, six-pointed star or a blue "wedge."

Therefore, since none of this is sourced beyond "black eagle on red," neither of these images should be used in articles until a reliable blazon for this thing can be found. At best, a sentence should be inserted into any relevant article saying that there are descriptions of it being a black, double-headed eagle on a red background. -MissMJ (talk) 20:46, 10 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

@MissMJ. I would kindly remind you that you can not expect to find everytime online the things you are looking for. Forums are good in finding scanned pages from books (I guess is not legal to do that in wiki). Anyway the term used by Marin Barleti (the first biographer of Scanderbeg) is in Latin "…et reliqui Epirotici generis mox abiecta Amurathis memoria nouuam ducem et nota olim signa aquilasq; (nam rubea vexilla nigris et bicipitibus distincta aquilis (id gentis insigne e rat) gerebat Scanderbegus)” It is clear from Barleti that the colors are red for the banner and black for the eagle. When he was dealing with Scanderbeg flag, Faik Konica interpreted "bicipitibus distincta" as "unfolded wings", hence the form of Albanian National flag we see today. However the form with wings down was used alongside the other and is still used (always in a minor degree however, unfolded wings was the main form). Here you can find scanned pages from a book whose topic is on Albanian flag. Please note a page (the one that shows a date 1861) where there were several carvings in stone in Albania,who show a double headed eagle with opened wings. That was even before Konica delt with Albanian national flag.

In Rodoni church built by Kastrioti family (which Scanderbeg was the prominent member) there is a picture of Kastrioti family symbol. IMO what you see there it matches perfectly with Barleti claim as "bicipitibus distincta" so the feathers are shown distinctively, wings being opened. Aigest (talk) 09:01, 11 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

@Aigest, your comment could mislead somebody because:

Marin Barleti is primary source, “Wikipedia articles should be based on reliable, published secondary sources and, to a lesser extent, on tertiary sources.... All interpretive claims, analyses, or synthetic claims about primary sources must be referenced to a secondary source, rather than original analysis of the primary-source material by Wikipedia editors.”
Marin Barleti was forger. Until now it is proven that he forged Skanderbeg's correspondence to fit his POV of the events (Setton, Kenneth (1976—1984), The Papacy and the Levant, 1204-1571, vol. four volumes, American Philosophical Society, p. 73, ISBN 978-0-87169-114-9, ...... The spurious correspondence of July and August 1443, between Ladislas and Scanderbeg (made up by Barletius, who should assigned it to the year 1444) ...He also invented a correspondence between Skanderbeg and Sultan Mehmed II to fit his interpretations of the events in 1461—1463 {{citation}}: Check date values in: |year= (help); Cite has empty unknown parameter: |coauthors= (help); More than one of |author= and |last= specified (help)CS1 maint: year (link))
Your interpretation of pictures drawn in medieval churches are not RS. The link you provided says: "Qysh nga koha e Skenderbeut nuk kishte ndonje dokument zyrtar qe ta vertetonte prejardhjen e simbolit tone pervec vules zyrtare te prijesit shqiptar....Shqiponja është e pikturuar me ngjyrë të kuqe të hapur mbi suva të bardhë dhe në disa pjesë na ka arritur e dëmtuar, por që dallohet qartë se është me dy kokë...Këto do dallohen e të studiohen pasi të pastrohet afresku tërësishtë." Will you please translate this three short sentences?

I propose to leave this section alone because it is dedicated to vectorizing previous image of Kastrioti COA.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 11:59, 11 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Asociación de Grupos de Scouts de México

Article(s): Scouting and Guiding in Mexico

Request: vectorize and recolor, according to http://www.agsmac.org/ , should be gold on blue, and has only the inner ring, not the outer one... Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 15:00, 30 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion(s):

Interactive Wikipedia Tutorial

Unique request: Using photoshop, prepare images to be used in an interactive Wikipedia tutorial

Article(s): User:Ocaasi/The Wikipedia Game

Request: I'm working on a project with several other editors to make a dynamic tutorial (a learning game) for new editors. The project has a lot of interest so far and we'd like to make a mock-up of the first mission/module. The game will be based on a realistic Wikipedia interface using actual and realistically simulated images of encyclopedia pages with some dialogue boxes and simple editor-interface interactions. The script for the level is here: User:Ocaasi/The Wikipedia Game/Level 1 and is pretty self-explanatory. I have a Flash coder is ready to code the level, but they asked for someone to prepare all of the images in Photoshop. (I'm neither a coder not a Photoshopper). Can anyone help with this? It would be very cool and very much appreciated. Ocaasi ^c 14:24, 1 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion(s): I am... confused. Will this tutorial eventually be in the format of a Flash game? Or will it somehow use a yet undetermined(?) system to superimpose a Clippy-type editor character onto the actual Wikipedia interface and take users through the actual steps of creating an account, making edits, etc.? If the former, why is there talk of a mock-up? Have somebody with vector skills draw a character, have people take and edit the needed screenshots, and have a Flash whiz put it all together to make the actual Level 1 (I may be totally dense and not realizing that this is actually what you're asking for). If it's the latter... why is there talk of Flash? Seems to me like in that case you just need a storyboard, no Flash required. Again, character + screenshots = a number of stills demonstrating what it would look like.

On a semi-related note, I would suggest the dialogue go through a bit of an editing process. It is overly flowery in spots, and doesn't sound realistically conversational, which may lead a lot of people to tl;dr out of the tutorial. For example, instead of a monster message like: "This interactive tutorial is designed to let you learn the interface and the basics of successful editing in an easy, fun, realistic way. I'm just a regular editor. I'd love to show you around the site. I go by Jim for short. Let's get started!" shorten it to "This interactive tutorial will teach you how to use and edit Wikipedia in an easy, fun, and realistic way. I'm [character], and I'm a regular editor who can guide you around the site. Let's get started!" And so on. MissMJ (talk) 23:12, 5 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your feedback and questions. The mock-up of the game will be Flash. The final version, depending on who is willing to code it, will be Flash or PHP/Javascript. There will be no clippy, but maybe a human narrator, now named Sophie. The game would either run on images of Wikipedia (in Flash) or on an actual implementation of Mediawiki and Vector on PHP with Javascript for the interactive elements. Either would be web-based and neither would be the actual encyclopedia. The mock-up is to demonstrate the narrative and interactivity, neither of which are easy to do on Wikipedia itself. Someone is drawing the character as we speak, and screenshots are being taken. The other images we needed were dialogue boxes and highlighting elements for the interface. That is what the Flash coder working on the first level requested to make his life easier. I'm looking for help getting the Flash editor's images in order on photoshop (or was, someone's working on it right now). The mock-up is supposed to be realistic to both Wikipedia and the actual game, in which case the more it works (not just screenshots) the better.

Length is the best first tactic to make sure all points are covered. It's a mix of conversational and tutorial, so the guide has a little more latitude. The user doesn't actually talk back, so reading is a primary component of the experience. Your example suggestion is not a bad one and you're welcome to read and leave comments on the script. Shortening might be necessary, as it currently runs a bit long for the desired 1-2 hour experience. Let me know if you're interested in helping out in any way or if you have other thoughts about it. Cheers, Ocaasi^{t | c} 01:04, 6 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Magpul PDR

Thin lines should be semi-bolded.

Article(s): Magpul PDR

Request: Thin lines should be semi-bolded. Kungfu2187 (talk) 12:40, 29 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion(s): Request taken by Trex2001.

Heckler & Koch

Article(s): Heckler & Koch

Request: It needs to remove (R) symbol and adding more red to this logo. Could pass as PD text? Kungfu2187 (talk) 02:29, 30 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion(s): Removed registered symbol from File:Heckler and Koch logo.svg. ∃ Aaditya 7 18:10, 3 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Military seals of the Philippines

File:AFP 3D.png File:Rparmy.gif File:PN Seal.png File:PAF Seal.png

Request: Convert them to SVG Kungfu2187 (talk) 02:32, 1 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion(s):

Seals of Universities

Article(s): University of Calcutta, University of Mumbai, University of Pune, Kuvempu University and University of Delhi

Request: Vectorize.--Kkm010* ^{۩ ۞} 04:28, 5 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion(s): The easiest way out is to obtain the vector versions of these images from their respective authors. Vectorizing raster images is in effect adding more information to them based on existing information in the raster images. The information which is added is a product of algorithms like Interpolation, Antialiasing etc which are not very accurate for non-trivial shapes. So the image to be vectorized must have all the complexities there are in the original ideal image. These logos have too little information to be able to get vectorized into the original logos. Vectorization is most effective when the image to be vectorised has all the complexities and we exactly know which algorithms were used while converting the ideal image into the raster image. Asking to vectorize these low-resolution logos is equivalent to asking to decide yourself what the logos should be. You can see how bad the results of vectorising low-resolution non-trivial shapes are with tools like Inkscape, Adobe Illustrator, etc. ∃ Aaditya 7 07:23, 5 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not in a hurry you take your time and transform this logos into Vector form. I'm not an expert in this matter.--Kkm010* ^{۩ ۞} 08:52, 5 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You seem to have misinterpreted the comment above. To summarize, we tend to only locate and upload the official vector versions of logos - doing a manual re-trace will damage the logo's quality, and may even represent the representation. The way I tackle your requests is by locating PDF files from the company containing official vector versions of their logos, extract them using Adobe Illustrator, and upload them. Though this has worked for majority of your requests, I have not been able to locate an official version for a number of your requests, so therefore, I cannot upload a vector version without misrepresenting the logos (trust me, my tracing is bad). I hope this helps. –Connormah (talk) 21:54, 8 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Not a single SVG logo found ? Please check once again carefully, if none are found then leave it.--Kkm010* ^{۩ ۞} 04:26, 9 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Here is a trick to find PDF files on a particular domain: If you want to find the PDF files on www.example.com just Google search "site:example.com ext:pdf" or "site:example.com filetype:pdf" without quotes. This will list all the PDF files that Google Bot has encountered. Click on the magnifying glass in a result to see its instant preview or use Quick View to read the entire PDF without downloading it to your computer. To search for something (for example "logo") in these PDF files, Google search "site:example.com ext:pdf logo" without quotes. To list the latest file first select 'Latest' from 'More search tools' on the left side of the search results. Also experiment with these advanced Google search operators.–∃ Aaditya 7 09:09, 9 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I tried but it didn't work. Anyway leave these logos, SVG format can't be found of these logos.--Kkm010* ^{۩ ۞} 11:06, 9 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Armin Luistro's signature

His signature

Article(s): Armin Luistro

Request: Vectorize Moray An Par (talk) 15:15, 3 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Cool flag vectorization request

http://flagspot.net/images/f/fic%5Egeas.gif

http://flagspot.net/images/f/fic%5Egeas.gif

Article(s): Code Geass

Request: Can anyone please vectorize this flag and post it on Code Geass wikipedia page Drax90 (talk) 16:22, 6 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Iglesia ni Cristo

http://i34.tinypic.com/2hqtdom.jpg

Article(s): Iglesia ni Cristo

Request: Vectorize. The current logo used by the article is inaccurate. Moray An Par (talk) 08:28, 7 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Kepler-11 system illustration, comparison with inner Solar system

Resolved

– MissMJ (talk) 20:57, 10 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

See below.

Kepler-11 system illustration, comparison with inner Solar system

Article(s): Kepler-11

Request: Cut the image off slightly right of the Venus dot; stop the upper horizontal line at g or slightly right of it. (Cf. discussion at talk page) Roentgenium111 (talk) 13:40, 8 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion(s): Done Made it into a vector as well, since it was tagged with a vectorize template. MissMJ (talk) 07:33, 10 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! It looks great. --Roentgenium111 (talk) 11:14, 10 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Albania

Albania

Article(s): Albania

Request: Please vectorise, you may can use the Albanian SVG Flags Vinie007 16:25, 8 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Mississippi River flow diagram

Article(s): 2011 Mississippi River floods, Morganza Spillway

Request: Please convert to SVG. This diagram is used in a couple high profile articles surrounding the flooding of the Mississippi. The previous request was marked as being worked on but nothing ever materialized so I am re-submitting.»NMajdan·talk

Graphist opinion(s): Have you tried contacting the user who originally took the request? S/he may still be working on it, or have just forgotten. If they have a start to the SVG, they could upload it so that another graphist may continue working on it. MissMJ (talk) 19:24, 8 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]