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Women's sports

the article does not really say if men and women are treated equal in sports at all.Italic text

This article doesn't say much of anything. It's just a collection of shallow social rhetoric with few solid facts. The intro and "History" section need to be completely re-written. Djcastel 18:57, 10 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've rewritten the text and fixed the links and formatting issues.Djcastel 19:55, 18 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ancient Olympics

a women may participate by sendnig a chariot, and even more there were some olimpic female chaminons who nevere been in olymic games, but become champions as owners of chariots & horses (Idot (talk) 02:44, 25 August 2009 (UTC))[reply]

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Women's sports → Female participation in sport – There is no such thing as "women's sport(s)".Curb Chain (talk) 08:51, 16 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Support some sort of rename. This article is not about women's sports (ie. heptathalon, softball, ringette, rythmic gymnastics), it's about women and girls in sport. 65.94.47.63 (talk) 11:29, 16 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. This is by far the most recognizable and common term for the subject. Powers ^T 15:10, 17 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The problem is with ambiguity. Women's sports would indicate that only women play or the sport has a least a characteristic that makes women play it exclusivley. This article is about the participation of women in sport. As such, I know of know sports that makes women play a sport that men can't.Curb Chain (talk) 18:51, 18 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Right, there are no such sports, which is why the term isn't ambiguous. Only the least educated reader imaginable would think that there was such a thing as a sport that only women could play. Powers ^T 20:28, 18 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Weak support but with plural. Title sort of out of date I guess. Marcus Qwertyus 00:56, 18 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Well, that's a matter of Anglo English use and General American use. I don't matter if it is plural or singular either.Curb Chain (talk) 18:49, 18 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. WP:COMMONNAME. The suggested new name is neither concise nor easily recognizable nor natural nor in common use. Google hits definitely supports the current title as is. "Female participation in sport(s)" gets less than 116,000 Google hits [1]; "Women's sports" gets over 6 million [2]. Softlavender (talk) 07:29, 19 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Google search returns are little more an outrageous guess. Google books is better but you still have to flip to the last search return to get the real number. (yes this is an template message but user is tired of telling people this). Marcus Qwertyus 07:42, 19 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

When the difference is that profound, exact figures aren't necessary. =) Powers ^T 14:01, 19 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

He means that google numbers are statistics and cannot definitively judge the adoption of a label.Curb Chain (talk) 10:36, 20 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Support The suggested name is a good way to neutrally address topics that are far from settled (as evidenced by continuous Title IX court cases and legislative updates). The name is long and perhaps unrecognizable but the sentiment is accurate.Women's sports can redirect to the new title. Roger6r (talk) 18:12, 25 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]