Talk:William Garrow

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Autocratic system

I think it is a bold and somewhat ambiguous statement to suggest that Garrow has played a part in replacing autocratic systems with adversarial law. If this is so then some reference needs to made to the autocratic systems it is replacing and examples made Philm101 (talk) 19:06, 18 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Ironholds (talk) 09:25, 28 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Appointments

Could someone double-check what ODNB says about Garrow's appointments to the Prince of Wales/Duchy of Cornwall? Per the Gazette, it seems that he came right in as Attorney-General of the Duchy in 1806, succeeding Adam, and kept the post until he came into government in 1812. It doesn't appear he was ever Solicitor-General of the Duchy. Choess (talk) 07:22, 2 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Both the ODNB and the Braby biography have him as SG in 1806, becoming AG the following year. Ironholds (talk) 07:29, 2 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

the adversarial court system used in most western nations today

I don't think it is that widely used in continetal europe.©Geni 23:14, 7 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

fair point; switch to "common law". Ironholds (talk) 23:27, 7 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sarah Dorne's child.

It is stated here that the child Sarah Dorne had with her first husband was named Arthur. When I click on that Arthur (the child, not the husband), it says on his page, (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Hill,_3rd_Marquess_of_Downshire) that he was the son of Arthur Hill and Mary Sandys. Somewhere there is a mistake, since he cannot have had two mothers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.234.197.149 (talk) 14:53, 18 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Edit: I have now logged in. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Montespan (talk • contribs) 14:56, 18 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Best evidence rule

In this article, it states that Garrow "coined" the best evidence rule. First of all, applying the word coined to the phrase best evidence rule makes the statement ambiguous; did he coin the phrase or originate the concept? Secondly, the Best evidence rule article makes no mention of Garrow and actually seems to suggest that others developed it. Which article is right? LordVetinari (talk) 02:08, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

An existing ref allows more precise wording: text tweaked accordingly. --Old Moonraker (talk) 06:20, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Exceptional entry

I've just read this and want to congratulate the editors who've worked on it for a job marvelously done. It's a beautiful article, and serves as a model for how encyclopedia entries ought to be written. Keep up the very good work! —Encephalon 03:28, 27 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! Not to toot my own horn, but other than the copyediting it was just me. Ironholds (talk) 03:59, 27 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Er, not quite, as a click of the article history tab will quickly reveal.Straw Cat (talk) 12:41, 27 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Fine, rephrase; just about all of the content was me, happy? before my editing frenzy, after my editing frenzy and now. Note the distinction between the first two and the similarities between the last two. Ironholds (talk) 18:21, 27 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Burial

Just a note to say that Garrow is actually buried at in the churchyard at St Laurence, Ramsgate, so his apparent wish in that regard was not honoured.