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Just a point.

Check the Arsel & Thompson article (see ref in article) 4L14S (talk), 3:17 EST, Nov 30th.

Do hipsters call themselves hipsters?

Without getting back into last year's whole neutrality debate, here's a simple question: Is it common for hipsters to call themselves hipsters? I've only heard the term as a label others apply to people, usually as a derogatory term. If that is the main usage, the article should at least mention it. --Baumi (talk) 05:51, 10 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed, adding Category:Pejorative_terms_for_people Roidroid (talk) 08:51, 21 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
From my personal experience, self-aware hipsters frequently adapt the term ironically. Remember that a great deal of hipster culture is ironically using terms and symbols to acquire authenticity through insincerity. Ironically embracing hipsterism itself is a perfectly valid expression, and there are many hipsters who go out of their way to embrace the stereotypical hipster look as a meta-joke, myself included. Of course, this runs the risk of being called a try-hard, but what can you do. --99.224.174.102 (talk) 13:17, 7 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]


no they dont, they would be ashamed to be called hipsters because they like to believe that they are unique and cutting edge, like a revolutionary musician. like bob dylan or john lennon or something. they want people to imagine they are independant brilliant thinkers but really they are only imitating them in hopes that they will suddenly become something they are not, a genius. its more then that they cant accept that they arent geniuses.

Hipster "locations"

I removed this from the article and bring it here for discussion.

In the UK, Hoxton and Shoreditch are known as hipster areas,[1] and hipsters are referred to pejoratively as "Shoreditch twats."[2][3] In the US, areas associated with hipsters include Williamsburg, Brooklyn;[4][5][6] Echo Park in Los Angeles;[7] the Mission District in San Francisco;[8][9] and Oak Cliff, Dallas.[10] In Canada, notable districts include Vancouver's Commercial Drive and Main Street,[11][12] Toronto's Queen Street West and Parkdale,[13][14] and Montreal's Plateau Mont-Royal and Mile End[15][16]. In Australia, the corresponding areas would be St Kilda[17] in Melbourne; Garema Place in Canberra, Newtown, and Erskineville in Sydney.

These claims about locations where "hipsters" congregate is inherently problematic. First, some of these sources are questionable, and the definition of "hipster" from one source to another may differ. In addition to this is the fact that urban demographics change quickly and these neighborhoods might change more dramatically than the article can. Given these factors, I suggest this section be left out entirely. ---RepublicanJacobiteTheFortyFive 21:51, 25 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

There are probably quite a few real estate brokers / estate agents out there that would prefer the location section to be left in... ; ) 86.181.156.47 (talk) 17:36, 31 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Indeed. Middle class youth subcultures tend to move about as low rent areas get gentrified. Putting in suburbs would not be a good idea. Unless we also include the year that it was identified as such by reliable sources who establish the notability of it. Ashmoo (talk) 14:57, 9 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

There needs to be a picture of those hipster glasses in this article

I think the glasses have become the symbol/icon when people refer to hipsters, at least on the web. For example, http://hipsterhitler.com/ . — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.6.66.105 (talk) 05:00, 12 August 2011 (UTC) I'm not sure about the glasses, but it is surprising that there are no pictures of hipsters in the article. Ashmoo (talk) 13:13, 12 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Since it's an unwelcomed pejorative label, it'd be about as appropriate as putting pictures of random black people into the Nigger article. So i'd recommend against it. Roidroid (talk) 08:58, 21 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think it's considered "pejorative" any more, except by their "opponents". At least not in the "Nigger" sense. see also section above. -- megA (talk) 08:32, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

U.S. phrase

"Hipster" in its contemporary sense is really a U.S.or Canadian term (or problem?). For example, nobody in the U.K. uses it. Perhaps this is due to the fact that invariably what people in Hoxton or Shoreditch are doing seems to filter over to the States around 3 years later ; ) Article should reflect predominately American useage. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.180.152.71 (talk) 00:59, 1 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  1. ^ Masters, Tom; Fallon, Steve; Maric, Vesna (2010). Lonely Planet London City Guide (7 ed.). Lonely Planet. p. 281. ISBN 1741792266. Hoxton and Shoreditch remain the absolute centre of London's hipster scene
  2. ^ Saner, Emine (9 September 2004). "Are you a Hoxton hipster?". Evening Standard. London. Retrieved 12 June 2010.
  3. ^ "Meet the global scenesters: hip, cool and everywhere". Belfast Telegraph. 14 August 2008. Retrieved 12 June 2010.
  4. ^ Ferguson, Sarah (29 March 2005). "Hipsters Defend Brooklyn". Village Voice. Retrieved 12 June 2010.
  5. ^ Smith, Robert (10 April 2010). "New York's Hipsters Too Cool For The Census (radio story)". NPR. Retrieved 12 June 2010.
  6. ^ Lee, Denny (27 July 2003). "Has Billburg Lost Its Cool?". The New York Times. Retrieved 12 June 2010.
  7. ^ Jessica Gelt (2010-12-03). "Echo Park evolves into hipster destination". Los Angeles Times.
  8. ^ Guy Trebay (2010-09-01). "The Tribes of San Francisco". The New York Times. Retrieved 2010-10-06.
  9. ^ Marsha Polovets (2009-02-16). "So, Who Is a Hipster?". Mission Local. Retrieved 2010-10-06.
  10. ^ Sara Blaskovich (2010-09-23). "Is It Possible to Mention Oak Cliff and Not Use the Word Hipster?". Pegasus News. Retrieved 2011- 05-17. {{cite news}}: Check date values in: |accessdate= (help)
  11. ^ "Vancouver - Bars & Clubs - Hipster Hot Spot". BlackBook. Retrieved 2011-07-20.
  12. ^ Victoria Revay (2011-07-19). "Vancouver: Top 10 SoMa Hipster Hangouts". BlackBook. Retrieved 2011-07-20.
  13. ^ Reb Stevenson (2009-12-22). "A hipster's guide to Toronto". Calgary Herald. Retrieved 2011-07-20.
  14. ^ Stacey McLeod (2009-08-11). "Sketchy Bar Crawl: Parkdale's Happy, Sketchy Bars". Toronto.com. Retrieved 2011-07-20.
  15. ^ Daniel Barna (2009-08-19). "Montreal: Top Ten Hipster Hangouts". BlackBook. Retrieved 2011-07-20.
  16. ^ Robert Sietsema (2010-05-25). "Mile End Brings Montreal to Brooklyn". The Village Voice. Retrieved 2011-07-20.
  17. ^ http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/st-kilda-says-au-revoir-to-a-muchloved-bohemian/2006/04/29/1146198391612.html
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