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Errors in the summary of today's or tomorrow's featured article

Sunday's

Words as words appear in Wikipedia as italics, not quotes (5th sentence) Kevin McE (talk) 19:38, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

The last two sentences are contradictory: if there is no cure, then the result of the disease is the same whether it is treated or untreated. The eventual result of a disease is what the disease leads to: we can't say that the eventual result leads to something. Kevin McE (talk) 19:58, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

More logical to swap order of final two sentences, as has been the case for >12 hours on the article: lack of cure and treatment of symptoms should precede outcome. Kevin McE (talk) 08:54, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

Errors in In the news

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Costa Concordia

• Recommend linking "runs aground and capsizes" to Costa Concordia disaster, the main incident article. 14,200+ Google News hits and the largest cruise liner grounding in history merits its own article: "the largest ship ever to sink" -- USA Today Selery (talk) 01:13, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
• Also, there are at least six dead now, not three.[1] Selery (talk) 01:18, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

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Errors in the summary of Monday's featured list

As per my comments on User talk:The Rambling Man#TFL January 16, could an admin please change the opening line of this from:

• "Current sovereign monarchs (King of Swaziland pictured) are distinguished by their titles and styles, which in most cases are defined by tradition, and guaranteed under the state's constitution."

to:

• "There are currently 45 monarchs in the world reigning as sovereign heads of state."

The article's lead has changed since it was nominated. Thanks, Nightw 08:33, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

Done, could you just double-check I have it how you suggest. Cheers, The Rambling Man (talk) 09:58, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

Perfect. Thanks, Nightw 10:03, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

That is simply inaccurate, There are 30 monarchs, in 44 monarchies according to that list. The figure of 45 can only have been arrived at by counting Elizabeth Windsor 16 times, but she is not 16 monarchs. The count of 45 is inconsistent, because for ERII's territories nations are being counted, but for Andorra, individuals are counted. Kevin McE (talk) 10:06, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

It's not inconsistent, there are two princes of Andorra and 1 queen each for the 16 Commonwealth realms. The fact that the offices happen to be held by the same person doesn't mean they're the same queen. The queens all have separate dominions. Nightw 10:14, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

A monarch is a person. There are 30 people on that list. There is a fundamental issue as to whether this is meant to be a list of monarchs or a list opf monarchies, and the list should be nowhere near FL status or Main Page prominence until that is resolved. Kevin McE (talk) 10:28, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

A monarch is a type of political office, not a type of person. It's certainly not a list of monarchies—as you can see, there can be more than one monarch to a monarchy. If that sentence is an issue, it can be removed (I only added it recently). Nightw 10:39, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

By that logic, one would have to say that Elizabeth is "several monarchs". No-one is going to say that. She is a monarch, reigning over several monarchies. Thus the list is a list of monarchies. Kevin McE (talk) 11:59, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

The fact that both coregents of Andorra share an entry in the list actually reinforces the position that it is a list of monarchies. If it is intended to be a list of monarchs, they should be separate entries in the list. The fact that the default sorting is by nation also lends weight to the alternative title. Kevin McE (talk) 10:45, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

The Andorra entry was originally split into two, but FL reviewers asked for it to be combined in order to enable the sort function. Organising by country is really just a preference that we seem to use across Wikipedia on lists of office holders, since it's probably the easiest style for readers unfamiliar with the subject. That makes "by country" is a possible suffix to the title, but probably unnecessary. Nightw 11:10, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

That was a particularly incoherent argument by the FL revewers: it makes it impossible to sort by name or date of assumption for one of the coregents, and so is directly opposed to the outcome they were apparently seeking. Kevin McE (talk) 11:19, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

Well, the alternative was that nothing was sortable. Nightw 11:51, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

Nonsense Kevin McE (talk) 12:09, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

That's another alternative, I suppose. That actually looks okay to me if you want to put it back. Nightw 12:19, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

If the list were clearly a list of monarchs, I would: while that is far from clearly the intention, I wouldn't be inclined to. Kevin McE (talk) 12:29, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

If the monarch of (for example) Belize or the Solomon Islands is not the same as the monarch of the UK, why is the number of these monarchs the same. Who was Elizabeth I of either of these places? They became part of the British empire long after the reign of Elizabeth Tudor. If Australia (again, just as an example) were to become a republic tomorrow, there would be fewer monarchies in the world, but not fewer monarchs. Kevin McE (talk) 11:19, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

See monarchical ordinal. That was decided in 1953. Before that, of course, there have been many that haven't used the same—James was "James VI" and "James I", for example. Some countries just defer to the British line of succession, some have their own. They're not required to, but that's the current practise. I've removed the sentence. Does that help? Nightw 11:43, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

That line would also need to be removed from the Main Page blurb. I would contend that it is a symptom of the problem though, not the essence of it. Kevin McE (talk) 11:59, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

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