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Hi, Rafiki. Good find on the birthdate at Leslie Carter. One request: Per WP:NOTENGLISH, could you insert the pertinent German sentence from the source and its English translation in the footnote? Also a translation of the article title? Thanks! With regards, --Tenebrae (talk) 14:23, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
- Hi I have popped in translations and quotes. If they need to be formatted in any particular way let me know and I will fix them. RafikiSykes (talk) 14:52, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
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Dear rafiki Sykes. I am new here and do not intend to be a regular editor. I edited the wiki page on Alex Eadie (MP). I edited out that he was teetotal and anti smoking campaigner. Alex is my recently deceased grandfather and this info has been misreported in the first newspaper obituary. This is wrong info and was upsetting me that the wiki page was wrong. Alex Eadie smoked a pipe (you will find pictures on the web) since his 20's. Alex did not drink in his earlier life but for as long as I can remember enjoyed a glass of Aussie red with his evening meal. Please can you edit the article back again as the PA report had it wrong and now many of the other papers now have it wrong too (JemE1983 (talk)) —Preceding undated comment added 00:50, 5 February 2012 (UTC).
- It isn't imperitive to the wiki page so I shall remove it. All info that is inluded has to be published in reliable sources like books newspapers etc but we don't have to include everything they publish or mention. If there are any obituraties that are accurate and should be linked to please let me know. Likewise with any info that should be included just point out a source that has that info and the info could get added to the article.RafikiSykes (talk) 01:09, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
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Hello, RafikiSykes. Could you be more careful not to place characters in the bisexual category unless, as the category says, they are explicitly defined as bisexual? Just because a character has been with both men and women romantically/sexually, it doesn't necessarily mean that character is bisexual. For example, many fans believe that Marissa Cooper was just "sexually experimenting." Her sexual orientation is heavily debated by fans and was also outside questioned by outside observers, as shown in the section about it in the article. The External links section even has a note about not placing her in the bisexual category. This is why I reverted your edit that added her to that category. If a character is in Category:Fictional LGBT characters instead of a gay, lesbian or bisexual category, then it's likely for good reason. Xena and Gabrielle are good examples of that. 107.20.16.111 (talk) 18:50, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
- Notes there wouldn't show up for anyone using hotcat or similar. Though looking at the category heading should marissa gabrielle or xena even be in the lgbt cat as it at its heading says lgbt identified characters. So inclusions should only be if the characters actually identify as such surely?RafikiSykes (talk) 19:05, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
- Xena is a LGBT-identified character. Many fans see her as lesbian or bisexual, and the actress thinks that the character is bisexual, as the article states. She is additionally a gay icon, meaning that she is embraced by many within lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) communities. Therefore, having her in the LGBT-identified category makes sense. It is also a compromise for those wanting to put her in the bisexual category. The only reason she shouldn't be placed in the bisexual category is because neither the show nor the creators identified her as bisexual, not clearly anyway; the creators decided to leave her relationship with Gabrielle ambiguous as to whether it's romantic/sexual or not. That's why Xena and Gabrielle belong in the LGBT category, in my opinion. They already have the LGBT tag on their talk pages for these reasons; they are within the scope of the Wikipedia:WikiProject LGBT studies. Marissa is also within the scope of that project. And, since some believe that she is bisexual, while others do not, it seems that she belongs in the LGBT category to me. 107.20.16.111 (talk) 19:26, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
- Per above, I reverted your removal of the LGBT category from the Xena article. I also brought up this topic - bisexual or LGBT category? - on the talk pages of the Xena and Gabrielle articles to help form WP:Consensus about the issue. 107.20.16.111 (talk) 19:49, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
- The actress saying that well after the series doesnt define the character though. the character has not been shown to identify as any of those. being a gay icon would not warrent inclusion in an lgbt category. are there any reliable sources that show these characters identifying as such. also plenty of real and fictional figures are tagged with lgbt studies due to being lgbt rights campaigners or icons for lgbt people it does not show any identification on those figures part.RafikiSykes (talk) 20:00, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
- Per above, I reverted your removal of the LGBT category from the Xena article. I also brought up this topic - bisexual or LGBT category? - on the talk pages of the Xena and Gabrielle articles to help form WP:Consensus about the issue. 107.20.16.111 (talk) 19:49, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
- Xena is a LGBT-identified character. Many fans see her as lesbian or bisexual, and the actress thinks that the character is bisexual, as the article states. She is additionally a gay icon, meaning that she is embraced by many within lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) communities. Therefore, having her in the LGBT-identified category makes sense. It is also a compromise for those wanting to put her in the bisexual category. The only reason she shouldn't be placed in the bisexual category is because neither the show nor the creators identified her as bisexual, not clearly anyway; the creators decided to leave her relationship with Gabrielle ambiguous as to whether it's romantic/sexual or not. That's why Xena and Gabrielle belong in the LGBT category, in my opinion. They already have the LGBT tag on their talk pages for these reasons; they are within the scope of the Wikipedia:WikiProject LGBT studies. Marissa is also within the scope of that project. And, since some believe that she is bisexual, while others do not, it seems that she belongs in the LGBT category to me. 107.20.16.111 (talk) 19:26, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
- I know that the actress saying that doesn't define the character's sexual orientation; I have stated that it doesn't in my edit summaries to the article and in the talk page discussion I started there about this topic. Like I also stated there, there are reliable sources showing that many in the LGBT community and outside of it identify Xena and Gabrielle as lesbian or bisexual. What you say about the LGBT tag is exactly what I'm trying to say about the LGBT category. It doesn't have to mean that the character identifies as lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender. Further, no character or real-life person identifies their sexual orientation to be LGBT. They identify as lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender (transgender not even being a sexual orientation), or by some other term, which is why you have the vast majority of LGBT characters being placed in a specific sexual orientation category. Not the LGBT category. When they do not personally identify as lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender, or even by terms like pansexual or homoflexible, but are shown or implied to be lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender, they can be added to the LGBT category. That category is used for characters whose sexual orientations are ambiguous and for characters who are cited as being lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender by reliable sources while they or the show's creators have never identified them as such. The category is simply about characters who are identified as LGBT by reliable sources. It says "A category of fictional LGBT-identified characters appearing in films, television shows, books, comic books, and video games." That's Xena and Gabrielle. 23.20.59.196 (talk) 15:26, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
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Hi Rafi, I'm so sorry if I made a bit of a mess of your ref links. I was just in the process of restoring them but got called away. Apologies. MassassiUK 20:34, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
- Its fine I'm just checking they have access dates and fixing a couple of bits.RafikiSykes (talk) 20:38, 5 February 2012 (UTC)