Talk:General Joseph Colton

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Requested move (June 2010)

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The result of the proposal was request rejected as lacking a rationale.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 10:54, 29 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

General Joseph Colton (G.I. Joe) → General Joseph Colton — A short reason for page name change. User:75.142.152.104 03:18, 21 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Apparently, in a book put out by 'Fun Publications' our man Colton is now the president of the United States. If I find the appropiate ref I will put it in. Lots42 (talk) 18:29, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move (September 2010)

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The result of the move request was: moved Kotniski (talk) 14:45, 9 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

General Joseph Colton (G.I. Joe) → General Joseph Colton — This is the only article with this title, so there's no need to disambiguate. 75.142.152.104 (talk) 03:29, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Merge into a List of G.I. Joe characters as like is being done with all the excessive Transformers characters. 76.66.200.95 (talk) 04:07, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Weak support per nom, assuming that a simplified General Colton wouldn't be preferable, and also bearing in mind that there is a real world Joseph Colton. No prejudice against a merge, but start a proper discussion for one. PC78 (talk) 07:31, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support. No need for disambiguation. The real Joseph Colton was not a general, so the current {{distinguish}} hatnote is more than sufficient. Agree that a merger is a separate issue from naming this article as long as it exists. Station1 (talk) 11:52, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
'Support. What Station1 said. Lots42 (talk) 21:55, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Original Joe

It should be stressed, with the appropiate references, that Colton is the original Joe figure. You know, the dude with the kung-fu grip and all. Lots42 (talk) 22:03, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request on 1 April 2012

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I have recreated the original G.I. Joe logo for the General Joseph Colton page using Paint.NET, however due to semi-protection I am not able to add it to the page.

thumb|left|G.I. Joe Banner

BanaBong (talk) 04:42, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: Nice work, but it has a few details wrong. The J should loop up and there should be a star between the I and the J. Also, the tag lne should be "a great..." not "the great...". Regards, Celestra (talk) 05:06, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Done Actually scratch that, I decided to go instead with a recreation of the comic book version to better match Joe Colton. You are also incorrect "The" and "A" are interchangeable on the G.I. Joe logo banner, check Google. thumb|left|Joe Colton Banner Logo Please add it to the page, BanaBong (talk) 01:34, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

While your intentions appear to be noble, it is unclear why this logo would need to be added specifically to an article about General Joseph Colton. Also, this looks similar to a logo that was already rejected on this article, due to several sockpuppets of JHerbertMunster trying to constantly re-add it, which resulted in this page's semi-protection. Please provide a reason for why this image is relevant before adding it to the article. Fortdj33 (talk) 17:57, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not done. Logo may be copyvio. Previous version deleted at Commons as a copyvio. User:BanaBong is a probable sock of JHerbertMunster. I have reopened the investigation Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/JHerbertMunster. Δρ.Κ. ^{λόγοςπράξις} 19:19, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. User indeffed per checkuser. Abusing multilpe accounts. See SPI above. Δρ.Κ. ^{λόγοςπράξις} 21:46, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Middle Name?

Can anyone please provide a reference that confirms the character's middle name? One user has changed the information on this article and several others, so that his name reads Joseph Brady Colton, yet both of his file cards simply state Joseph B. Colton, and I have not found any references to Brady anywhere else on the web. I've left it here for now to avoid an edit war, but if the middle name cannot be confirmed, it should be reverted to his middle initial only. Fortdj33 (talk) 13:37, 17 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It may have been added because of the IMDB character page states it http://www.imdb.com/character/ch0258003/

Google brings up allot of results just search it in quotations.

I appreciate your effort, but your reasoning is flawed. First of all, IMDB is fine as an external link, but it has not been proven to be a reliable source for article content. Case in point, the page that you provide a link to, states at the top "The content of this page was created by users. It has not been screened or verified by IMDb staff."

Secondly, the information presented there is credited to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Joseph_Colton, which is an EXACT copy of the info in this article that is currently being disputed! It also copies information from General Colton's profile at www.myuselessknowledge.com, which does NOT list his middle name as Brady (in fact it erroneously lists his middle initial as R).

And of course if you Google "Joseph Brady Colton" you will find several blogs and other wikis that list this information, but those cannot be used as reliable sources. All of this is original research, and none of it proves General Colton's middle name to be anything other than the B. that is on his file card. Fortdj33 (talk) 17:37, 17 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, and nice indent thingy anyway I will take a look myself and see if I can dig anything up... I myself am also interested in finding this out. Someone also edited the article in the past to have the middle name Blake which the only reference to that I can find is that one of his authors in the comic book has a surname Blake so idk. The results themselves still seem odd though that people just seem to know this is his middle name without any verifiable sources. Will edit back :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.151.246.199 (talk) 17:42, 17 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Actually I don't think it is "B" at all, in fact I think his middle name might be "Robert" check this link http://us.fotolog.com/hasashimaru/13311258/ That would support your reasoning of Joseph R. Colton which brings up just as many search results. Is it possible that there are multiple versions of the character? Wait scratch that it has to be "B" because it is on the official file card from Hasbro. There must be multiple versions of the character then right?

Here I believe it has to do with his team mate Wild Bill G.I. Joe who was born in Brady, Texas http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wild_Bill_%28G.I._Joe%29 Several of the G.I. Joe characters have a birthplace there I guess. 141.151.246.199 (talk) 18:13, 17 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Actually yep that is correct they get it from William Brady (Wild Bill) http://www.myuselessknowledge.com/joe/characters/wildbill.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.151.246.199 (talk) 18:14, 17 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You are correct being that the Joe's roots are in Brady see here [Back to their Roots] "Chapter One- Brady, Texas It was a very early morning at the Pit, which was home to the world's best soldiers the GI Joe." it would only make sense that the original G.I. Joe would pay homage to that. 141.151.245.202 (talk) 18:37, 17 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]