Talk:Gantz
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Book causes extensive therapy for kid?
This book is involved in a news story about a boy needing extensive therapy after stealing the book from a public library and keeping it for a year. See my blog post for the reliable sources contained therein: Extensive Therapy For Library Thief; Crestview Public Library Not Responsible For Child's Losing His Mind Over Stolen Adult Material. --LegitimateAndEvenCompelling (talk) 05:20, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
This in not linkspam. It has 3 links to reliable sources and I said so. I was just too busy to copy and paste them here. But they are no less valid. --LegitimateAndEvenCompelling (talk) 13:01, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
TheFarix, stop removing this comment. It is not linkspam. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linkspam#Link_spam says:
- Link spam is defined as links between pages that are present for reasons other than merit.[1] Link spam takes advantage of link-based ranking algorithms, which gives websites higher rankings the more other highly ranked websites link to it. These techniques also aim at influencing other link-based ranking techniques such as the HITS algorithm.
What I have added is not "present for reasons other than merit." It is added precisely because of the merit, then I specifically state the link contains 3 reliable sources, and that is the truth. The reliable sources are directly related to the subject matter of this wiki page.
Further, since Talk pages do not appear in search engine results, I am not "tak[ing] advantage of link-based ranking algorithms". --LegitimateAndEvenCompelling (talk) 14:21, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
- Why not just link to the three news articles, instead of your own personal blog? Crestview Bulletin Anime News Network Sun Sentinel This case seems ridiculous. She tricked over two hundred people into signing a petition at a Christmas parade, to ban pornography from the library. Dream Focus 14:32, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks, Dream Focus, and thanks for adding the links. We all know Wikipedia activities take a long time. I just tried to shorten the time by adding the link I did but clearly stating it was there only due to the 3 valuable RSs it contained. Who know TheFarix would come along and decide to ignore what I said and make a mountain out of a molehill. --LegitimateAndEvenCompelling (talk) 14:38, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
Review(s)
Mania.com: manga vol. 7 manga vol. 8
--KrebMarkt (talk) 19:12, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
- Added your refs to {{Refideas}} above. – Allen for IPv6 17:30, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
Active Anime: vol. 13
--KrebMarkt (talk) 07:59, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
- One more added. – Allen4names 21:09, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
- AICN vol. 13 & 14 AICN vol. 15 (Sorry adding it above is too time consuming when you are scooping +50 reviews into Wikipedia talk page) --KrebMarkt (talk) 16:44, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
- Mania.com: manga #12 manga #13 anime Complete Series
- Active Anime: manga vol. 15
- ANN: Shelf Life complete DVD
Gantz sells over 15 million copies
On the cover of Gantz issue 332, it states the manga has sold 15 million copies. I have thus added that to replace the outdated information which stated it sold 10 million copies. Verifiability does not require an online search for the information, since people quote books all the time. Please discuss this on the talk page before reverting me to show outdated and thus inaccurate numbers. Does anyone sincere doubt the source? Dream Focus 20:23, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
- Google news search for "gantz" and "15 million" shows two results.[1] Is http://manga.about.com/b/2011/01/24/manga-movie-gantz-brings-out-the-stars-at-hollywood-premiere.htm reliable? http://www.asahi.com/ seems to have moved their article but you can read the summary in the Google news search. [2] Dream Focus 20:31, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
- Can anyone search for "Gantz" AND "15 million copies sold" in Japanese? The official sites its sold on, in Japan and other nations that it's been translated and released in, probably mentions that. Dream Focus 20:32, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
- The problem about accessibility is that the reference "Gantz issue 332" does not state anything as a reference. It does not state in what issue of the magazine was serialized, what magazine it is, what date (it just says 2011 and there are lots of magazines published in a year). Moreover, it is completely unformatted so readers and editors will understand less what does it mean. The reference from about.com is reliable, but I see no reason to remove previous updates of sales as they keep a record of the manga's sales. I'll check that-Tintor2 (talk) 00:31, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
Copy/paste copyvio
The edit at [3] was a copy/paste copyright violation from the cited source, as all this editors' edits today were. Twinkle labeled my revert as vandalism, which is not quite right. TJRC (talk) 00:47, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
Genres
There is no reason to eliminate a genre from the infobox simply because someone stated in a guideline page that "In general, two or three genres should be sufficient for most articles." First off, it says in general, not always, most articles, not all articles. Don't limit things. The current genres its listed in are Action, Psychological thriller, Science fiction, and Horror. Horror is something readers will understand straight away. Psychological thriller is something more vague, and doesn't just cover horror films. Dream Focus 08:04, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
- You are still ignoring the rules. Three genres is the limit and no more are allowed. If you think Psychological thriller was vague, then why you didn't remove it?Tintor2 (talk) 15:24, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
- Those aren't rules, they are just general suggestions, and they don't specifically limit things. You are thus far the only one who wants to limit things to three. Others have already stated at various times they want more in there. Dream Focus 18:11, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
- That other users like it is not a valid argument. It's not a suggestion, but part of the guideline to avoid placing similar genres which would undue weight.Tintor2 (talk) 22:41, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
- Are there references for any of the genres? —Farix (t | c) 18:09, 22 April 2011 (UTC)
- Publishers Weekly is down right now but the other references at the top and in the Review(s) section of this page should be useful. – Allen4names 03:23, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
- Are there references for any of the genres? —Farix (t | c) 18:09, 22 April 2011 (UTC)
- That other users like it is not a valid argument. It's not a suggestion, but part of the guideline to avoid placing similar genres which would undue weight.Tintor2 (talk) 22:41, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
- You don't need references for things like that. Its more along the lines of common sense. Anyone who has read it will confirm its science fiction, thus the Gantz spheres, suits, weapons, aliens, etc. It also is horror fiction, and fits Action (genre) quite well. Look at the definition of psychological thriller. Psychological_thrillers#Definition Does any of that sound like Gantz?
- Psychological – Elements that are related to the mind or processes of the mind; they are mental rather than physical in nature. Sometimes the suspense comes from within one solitary character where characters must resolve conflicts with their own minds.
- No, there is nothing mental here. Its all quite physical and real.
- Psychological thriller – Characters are no longer reliant on physical strength to overcome their brutish enemies (which is often the case in typical action-thrillers), but rather are reliant on their mental resources, whether it be by battling wits with a formidable opponent or by battling for equilibrium in the character's own mind. The suspense created by psychological thrillers often comes from two or more characters preying upon one another's minds, either by playing deceptive games with the other or by merely trying to demolish the other's mental state
- Nope. That's isn't Gantz either. You fight your physical enemies hard to survive.
Gantz is science fiction, it is Action (genre), it is horror fiction, and it is a Thriller (genre). And please don't try to combine unrelated things just because you believe there should only be three genres when it clearly falls into four different distinct categories. Dream Focus 07:43, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
- "Material challenged or likely to be challenged must be attributed, through an inline citation that directly supports the material... This policy applies to all material in the mainspace—articles, lists, sections of articles, and captions—without exception" —Wikipedia:Verifiability
- Since the genres have been challenged, sources are required. Ideally, genres should be sourced anyways instead of relying on editors' observations. —Farix (t | c) 11:42, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
- That's if you doubt it is true, and challenge it. Do you sincerely doubt that it is science fiction, or any of the other things I listed? Dream Focus 13:54, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
- I went ahead and searched for it, and found the Gantz manga referred to as an "action" manga, as science fiction, as a horror manga, and as a thriller manga. Added in some of those references found. Dream Focus 14:24, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
- The back of the Gantz manga volume collection calls it manga/scifi/action. Dream Focus 14:41, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
Production Section
It is stated that the Gantz creator was inspired by a book called Time Murderer by Robert Sheckley, as far as I can see on his Wiki page and on Amazon, there is no book with that name. Some further looking on Google came up with a book called Time Killer, by the same author. So I'm just pointling out here that perhaps there is a mistake.
FrozenDelight (talk) 18:24, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
- ^ Davison, Brian (2000), "Recognizing Nepotistic Links on the Web" (PDF), AAAI-2000 workshop on Artificial Intelligence for Web Search, Boston: AAAI Press, pp. 23–28
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