Talk:Nas

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Musical style

This source can support a section for "Musical style" or "Lyrical technique" for the Nas article.

Dan56 (talk) 22:26, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Nasty Nas

I can't seem to find any material where Nas released work under "Nasty Nas". Has he actually released anything under this alias? DiverseMentality 00:10, 4 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes he did. See the Zebrahead soundtrack from 1992 where he appears as Nasty Nas on the song Halftime. Also on the song's single. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.171.128.138 (talk) 22:00, 14 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ahh, I see. Thank you for pointing this out. DiverseMentality 22:09, 14 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Also on is album Illmatic, in the end of the song N.Y. State of Mind he is called Nasty Nas. --Urbanscape (talk) 20:12, 1 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Nas never officially went by Nasty Nas, he used Nast Nas more as an alternate nick name in the same fashion that 2pac used Mackavelli as an alternate nickname. But neither of them go by these alternate nicknames on a regular basis. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Shanukovich (talk • contribs) 21:46, 30 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

2pac diss

where in the article is 2pac diss bout him —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.183.233.4 (talk) 03:07, 31 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This is unimportant for wikipedia. --90.220.154.92 (talk) 21:41, 4 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"this little nigga named nas think he live like me talk about he left the hospital take five like me"

Is a line heard in tupac's "against all odds"

This line, of course refers to a nas song entitled "The message" in which nas depicts a scene similar to tupac's in vivid detail.....

This "beef" was "squashed" at the mtv awards.

Nasir bin Olu Dara Jones

Nasir bin Olu Dara Jones is his full name and should be mentioned as his full name.--BhainsRajput (talk) 21:03, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I haven't seen one reputable source that claims his legal name includes "bin Olu Dara." A Google News search of "Nasir Jones" vs "Nasir bin Olu Dara Jones" yields 476 results vs 23. --Zimbabweed (talk) 06:31, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

His name is Nasir Jones. Bin Olu Dara sounds a lot like his father's name... I doubt its his name... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.36.157.129 (talk) 16:42, 7 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

There's a source in the article that cites his full name as Nasir bin Olu Dara Jones. — Σ xplicit 19:31, 7 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Can you put the link here...so this can be confirmed...if it is in fact true or not. You always hear Nas claiming that his name is Nasir Jones. In none of his songs have I heard him say that his full name is Nasir bin olu dara jones —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.36.157.129 (talk) 02:24, 15 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.212.122.158 (talk) 06:24, 3 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It is common in the United States and other English speaking countries to only mention your first and last name when asked, any other names are sometimes deemed private or too long winded. Nasir bin Olu Dara Jones is his name given to him by his father due to his fathers conversion to Islam. 'bin' means 'son of' in Arabic, so his father named him Nasir, another Arabic name, bin 'son of' Olu Dara Jones.

--90.220.154.92 (talk) 21:35, 4 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Religion

I'm not really an expert on religion,but is it possible to be a Christian and a member of the Nation of Gods and Earths People at the same time? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.86.111.20 (talk) 16:58, 24 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No, it is not, the ideologies of the Nation of Gods and Earths People conflict with the foundations of Christian teachings and are quite unique. They also conflict with Islam, which the religion has close ties to. --90.220.154.92 (talk) 21:38, 4 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

RZA mingles with Christianity as well as the Nation of Gods and Earths, so it is possible to associate with both, however, I highly doubt that Nas does.

Divorce

Is there a more reliable source to this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.36.157.129 (talk) 21:00, 3 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

MTV has reported it. I'll add this as a reference as well. — Σ xplicit 21:07, 3 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Relationship with his father

I am curious to what Nas' relation ship was like with his father. I know he "describes" it in his fourth album... but from what I had understood previously is that his father was never around.... can any one clear this up? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.36.157.129 (talk) 16:40, 7 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Not until a source is found where he talks about this, other than his music, as rappers say alot of what isn't true just for the sake of being able to say something for whatever reason. If there is no source, you would have to wait till one is found. --90.220.154.92 (talk) 21:40, 4 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

On the documentary 'Nas's Story' there is a decent amount of information about his relationship with his father along with his mother. Maybe this could be a good source for what you are looking for. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.6.96.223 (talk) 09:44, 20 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Associated acts

I just added some more associated acts, based on the criteria of "multiple collaborations" and all that, based on glancing over the Nas discography:

Sean Combs ("Hate Me Now", "Everything I Love", "Journey Through the Life")
Dr. Dre ("Nas Is Coming", "Topless")
Rakim ("Streets of NY", "Classic") —Preceding unsigned comment added by Muhamedrulz (talk • contribs) 15:35, 9 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The Game ("Why You Hate the Game", "Letter to the King")
Jadakiss ("What If", "Show Discipline", Lil Jon's "Grand Finale", Fat Joe's "John Blaze")
Jay-Z ("Black Republican", "Success", "I Do It For Hip Hop" [a Ludacris track]")
Kelis (they were married, and collaborated on "In Public", "Blindfold Me", "American Way")
R. Kelly ("Street Dreams" remix, "Money Makes the World Go Round")
Ludacris ("Virgo", "I Do It For Hip Hop")
Mobb Deep ("Live N---a Rap", "Eye for a Eye (Your Beef Is Mines)", "Give It Up Fast", etc.)
Raekwon ("Verbal Intercourse", MD's "Eye for an Eye", Fat Joe's "John Blaze")
Busta Rhymes ("Suicide Bounce", "Don't Get Carried Away")

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Andrewlp1991 (talk • contribs) 21:44, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I added AZ because, well, it's Nas and AZ! Solofire6 (talk) 22:19, 5 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"Associated acts" is for artists who the subject of the page has had a significant number of collaborations with, or artists that regularly work with the artist in some way. You should not just glance over the discography and start adding random names. See Template:Infobox musical artist --FuriousFreddy (talk) 21:24, 16 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Song clips?

Hi all, I'd like to promote this article to Good Article status (like I did with the Dr. Dre article back in 2008) and thus would like to add some song samples. The Illmatic (already GA-Class) has some significant ones. Any others that can show the evolution of Nas's music? Please do what you can to improve this article! Andrewlp1991 (talk) 05:48, 26 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Nas inspiration on African youngsters

I know a lot of people wont believe it when i say Nas lyrics give us inspiration in southern Africa.Its real poverty exists in southern African and what we are living in is 3 times what is called ghetto in America.The songs sang by Nas suits suits us the strugglers because they are not always about riches and pride but they are all about life facts and how to keep strength.Nas lyrics motivate us very much.

I had started dreaming of becoming a rapper since age Twelve and started writing my own lrics since then,now am twenty years old and still writting them but i have no money to release an album.Though its like this i dont loose hope i keep on writting and listening to the songs of my favourite rapper Nas.

Written by Gaoakanye Cuttens Mokgosi in Botswana Africa

Tense change needed in Distant Relatives section...

which is expected to be released in Fall 2009

Someone who has an account, can you change this from "is" to "was" as the album is still not yet released. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.117.50.67 (talk) 16:24, 19 April 2010 (UTC) Thats the truth its not always bout the money cars women houses and jewelry you cant take those things wit you its really about enjoying your life family and health no matter what your means are and nas is the best about rapping about real life issue's and don't make humans feel bad for not having those things and besides that he just the greatest all around rapper in history keep your head up bro keep pushing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.66.105.232 (talk) 17:03, 20 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Middle School dropout

Im not sure I see the relevance of being a middle school dropout to the success of his first album. I feel like this should either be removed or extrapolated. --Bradjohns (talk) 17:19, 8 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I was just thinking the same thing, it doesn't appear to be relevant. Pokerhappy (talk) 05:20, 14 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I completely agree; mentioning his being a middle-school dropout in the intro section is both irrelevant (how far he got in school has nothing to do with how well Illmatic was received) and redundant (the Early Life section contains the sentence "Nas' parents divorced in 1985, and he dropped out of school in the eighth grade"). The sentence should just read "His debut album Illmatic, released in 1994 by Columbia Records, was critically acclaimed and would go on to be widely hailed a classic in the genre." Danny oldsen (talk) 21:17, 28 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request from 66.92.161.127, 30 October 2010

{{edit semi-protected}} Simple stuff—make the possessive consistent. In some places it's "Nas'"—which is nonstandard—while in other places it is the more generally accepted "Nas's" (thank you).

66.92.161.127 (talk) 22:50, 30 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Done Nikkimaria (talk) 01:19, 31 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Mobb Deep + Nas LP

http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/news/id.15279/title.mobb-deep-nas-to-collaborate-on-full-length-lp-says-havoc/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.177.75.52 (talk) 14:42, 25 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

New Album title = life is good

http://www.rap-up.com/2011/05/28/nas-celebrates-life-with-new-album-title/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 120.56.162.8 (talk) 17:50, 28 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Will wait for something more official than a Tweet before I change the page...--Chimino (talk) 08:45, 29 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

can someone update the Nas discography page?

For http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nas_discography page,

I have this article right here that lists and cite physical youtube evidence of all the Nas collaborations and tracks he did over the years (more than that of wikipedia). http://www.last.fm/user/jensyao/journal/2011/05/11/4dkrl3_tracks_featuring_nas_over_the_years_%281991_to_present%29 I do not have the background skill to put these titles in the "wikipedia table format" efficiently - I just manually copy the code for a row from above, paste it below, and then alter it for the next track - which is time consuming because there's quite a bit of tracks this discography failed to mention. If anyone has some spare time, please help update this page. thanksJensyao (talk) 14:22, 31 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request from Rector89, 31 May 2011

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His new album titled Life Is Good, from his Twitter account. There has been a lot of MTV interviews etc about it, Salaam Remi is confirmed.

There was no movie Vapors, playing Kool G Rap. It doesn't exist.

Personal life, he owns the company that organises Rock the bells and organises it himself (line up etc) every summer.

Official album title:

http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/news/id.15346/title.rap-release-dates-kool-g-rap-tech-n9ne-pete-rock-smif-n-wessun — Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.177.68.7 (talk) 14:43, 1 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Rector89 (talk) 17:57, 31 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Done by User:Theman81. — Bility (talk) 20:34, 1 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

No consensus to move. Vegaswikian (talk) 02:17, 27 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Nas → Nas (rapper)
Nas (disambiguation) → Nas

– "Nas (disambiguation)" is a huge page with countless notable entries in various categories. "Nas" is a very open ended title and should be the main disambiguation page with the Wiktionary link. See the Sting page for a good example of a similar disambiguation page. John Cengiz talk 04:16, 20 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Status Quo, I see your point and it's a good one, being that a huge musician not having his own page without a disambiguation page. However, they're not exactly analogous. I could think of several proper nouns also named [The] Sting off the top of my head before going to that page in addition to the fact that it is also a regular common noun and verb. I would expect more uses out of it, and thus more articles on wikipedia incorporating that in their title. However, I've never heard of any of these other entries for Nas other than the acronyms which happen to spell NAS, but I've never heard used as such, such as the New American Standard Bible. If someone is looking for "new antisemitism" am I really supposed to think they're going to search "Nas"? The National Academy of Sciences, maybe, but that's a disambig page itself, so not the best argument. Or these players with the last name, or other random abbreviations? How "nas" are they? I think it's fine the way it is as these other entities are not primarily known as Nas the way the other entities are also primarily known as Sting. JesseRafe (talk) 12:40, 20 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Collaboration with Santana

No mention of Nas' collaboration with Santana on his Guitar Heaven album? They did a cover of Back In Black with Janelle Monae. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.96.73.212 (talk) 06:28, 19 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Personal Life

The personal life section of this article needs cleaning up for style and clarity. But it also seems to offer contradictory information regarding the announcement of Nas's first son.GarbledLecture933 (talk) 03:12, 28 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

First Few Lines

I am not particularly knowledgeable on Nas in general but I read the first few lines of the article after being linked to it and it seems immediately biased.

"Nas is one of the most important figures in hip hop and one of the most skilled and influential rappers of all-time."

There are no citations and it seems to lack objectivity. I am personally not suited for the task, but I think if someone could go about rewriting it, that'd contribute to overall quality. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Naturada137 (talk • contribs) 05:50, 13 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

New Year's Eve 2012 no show in Angola - kidnapping

Based on TMZ article, should this be included in the article? Helmar63 (talk) 10:21, 4 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

If it's indeed notable, and verifiable, then someone other than TMZ will have covered it. See here for a discussion of TMZ as a reliable source.--Vidkun (talk) 13:45, 4 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

More than TMZ are now reporting on this http://www.google.com/#sclient=psy-ab&hl=en&safe=off&tbs=qdr:d&source=hp&q=allgood+kidnapping&pbx=1&oq=allgood+kidnapping&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=21189l26502l3l27040l15l13l2l0l0l1l1050l6116l2-1.2.4.4.0.1l14l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&fp=2f0b188327e19041&biw=1280&bih=699 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.231.238.29 (talk) 20:24, 4 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Now that someone has edited the article and included some wording in the "Personal life" section, is it appropriate to ask that the article be monitored for re-edits? Helmar63 (talk) 00:43, 11 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Nas/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Basilisk4u (talk · contribs) 18:10, 3 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! I will review this article. Basilisk4u (talk) 18:10, 3 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I am very sorry, but I feel that the article is not ready for GA nomination and there are too many issues with the article for now. The lead is very disorganized, there are sections that are completely unsourced, and the prose needs work. I will try to fix some things, but I feel that I will need to fail the article for now. Basilisk4u (talk) 18:13, 3 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Tax Issues

I have added a brief account of Nas's considerable tax issues with the IRS to the end of the section on his personal life.