Talk:List of breweries in California

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Would anyone care to explain what the criterion for notability on this list are? It seems odd that there's no discussion of it here. --jpgordon^{::==( o )} 04:58, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I was wondering the same thing. Should we count only pure breweries, or do we count brewery-restaurants as well? For example, I saw Rock Bottom on the list on Santa Clara County. I would have thought of it as primarily a restaurant (besides the fact that it is a chain headquartered outside of California). If it is to be included on the list, should it be listed under every county that has a brewing location? Some other brewery restaurants to consider, at least with locations in San Diego, are BJ's, Oggi's, and Gordon Bierch. Then there's Pizza Port, who while being a restaurant, is more well known for its beer.

I would like to propose as a criteria that to be counted on the list, a company must sell beer for off-premesis consumption - either kegs, take-away growlers, or bottling for retail distribution, and that it be listed under every county for which such a distribution point exists. So for example:

Pizza Port: Bottles for distribution from San Diego and Orange Counties- list under both
BJ's does not generate a significant amount of off-premesis consumption, so it would be omitted.
Rock Bottom sells growlers, would be listed under Los Angeles, San Diego, and Santa Clara counties
Oggi's offers growlers at many locations (though I don't go there enough to know if it's all locations...); they'd be listed under their five counties

Alternatives to consider:

List only brewers who have won an award at a Great American Beer Festival, World Beer Cup, or other significant competition
- Perhaps that would be a separate list, "List of award winning breweries from California"
List a company only at their primary location/headquarters, e.g. Rock Bottom being headquartered in Colorado would not be listed here, and Oggi's would be listed in San Diego only.
List only companies reaching some production volume (e.g. Airdale in San Diego, despite its wonderfulness, would be eliminated from the list. You can guess I'm against that option!)

--Mfedder (talk) 05:05, 23 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I agree on the off-premises criteria; award-winnning may be a bit hazier. Either way, we should eliminate a listing of Jupiter (Alameda County), when it is simply a brewpub whose beers are contract-brewed by Drake's (who should certainly be listed).--Chimino (talk) 06:44, 23 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Notability, redux

I am not as concerned about what specifically qualifies a brewery to be on the list. I am more concerned that we show, with references, the reason for inclusion. I have added hidden text, and i may act on what i added. this is standard instructions for stand alone lists on WP. we are NOT a directory. businesses here must be shown to be notable. i know that Jupiter exists. does that mean i should leave it here? it means i should find a reference for it, and if i find it, add it, then maybe i or someone else will write the article. The names should be added only AFTER a reference has been found. otherwise, how do we know someone didnt add "Ima J. Ackass Brewery, Chowder House and Marching Society" as a joke?Mercurywoodrose (talk) 04:30, 3 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed that they should all be notable. For those that stumble on to this page and don't have experience, you can take a look at this.Ali or nothin (talk) 20:05, 4 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]