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New picture of Ernest Pike

Hi Piotrus, I have found a new and much better picture of the tenor Ernest Pike that shows a full portrait of him. This picture has been scanned from an early HMV record cover dating from about 1908. We must presume that the original copyright holder must have been HMV or its predecessor the Gramophone & Typewriter company, but there is no author on the photo. So in the UK - with an unknown author I presume that it is now out of copyright as it is over 70 years since publication. In the U.S it will be out of copyright anyway as it was published before Jan 1 1923. In fact it should be out of copyright everywhere as it was published more than 100 years ago. I have tried to upload this, but the upload wizard is not working for me. I have tried 2 computers. Is there a problem with uploads at the moment or can you help/advise me? Richard J Myers (talk) 14:42, 13 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

--- The problem is that the "local upload" is not working - it connects then says it is uploading, then never completes the upload. The upload wizard talk shows that others have the same issue.

So I have tried the wiki commons upload which does work - but does not have any settings for UK copyright!. nor is there anywhere to set the PD-UK-unknown. I tried putting it in a licensse field and it will not accept it. So I don't know what to do. Either:- 1. The local (US and UK) wizard needs to be be fixed or/ 2. Can you explain how I upload UK pictures to the Wiki Commons which appears to be for US pictures only or do I assume that if it is out of copyright in the UK that it is also out of copyright in the US.

Richard J Myers (talk) 17:48, 13 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi again, Its all sorted - the uploads were working all along, but the uploader did not say when the upload was complete. Also - I coudn't find the files uploaded because the file name given by the uploader was what I thought was the full length description string! So the file names are quite long but this is no bad thing - I have found them at least. I now know (with help from the forum) that I can check all the files I have downloaded from a user contributions page or a file list page. Finally, when I release the new article, if I let you know when - could I ask you to check it to make sure it is OK - will probably be in 1 or 2 days time? Thanks for your help. Richard J Myers (talk) 17:28, 14 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, The potential new picture for the revised Ernest Pike article is: "The tenor Ernest Pike standing in front of a Sheraton gramophone.jpg" This picture would have appeared in about 1908 on record covers for the Zonophone/HMV grand opera series of records which Pike sang on. The photographer is unknown and it would have been first published in the UK probably in around 1907. So the question is whether HMV can still claim any copyright as a company? You should be able to accesss the downloaded photo (not yet added to the article). I would appreciate it if you could review whether I can add this to the article without any issues and if necessary amend the copyright info attached to it. The last Pike photo I uploaded caused a lively discussion - I would prefer it if this one was more peaceful! I do think this is an excellent photo of him which is entirely relevant to the article as very few pictures of him exist at all and the photo on the existing article is a very poor picture of him. Thanks in advance for your help. 208.85.2.68 (talk) 14:35, 16 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

polskie PD

Dzięki za zaproszenie do współredagowania tego nader dla polskich wikipedystów ważnego elementu wiki-commonsowego puzzla.

Bardzo jednak żałuję, ale po pierwsze nie dysponuję ani dostatecznie precyzyjną wiedzą prawniczą, ani dostatecznie obszerną bibliografią w zakresie prawa autorskiego (polskiego i amerykańskiego) - bo oba trzeba brać pod uwagę, nie mówiąc o prawie byłych naszych zaborców - by poczuwać się do prawa do odpowiedzialnego zabierania głosu. Po stronach i podstronach Wikimedia Commons przewijają się całe tabuny samozwańczych znawców i pseudospecjalistów, którzy najczęściej robią mniej odpornym uczestnikom projektu wodę z mózgu swoimi własnymi definicjami (jeden z moich nieżyjących znajomych takie dodawane "od siebie" określenia i sformułowania, bądź interpretacje,miał zwyczaj nazywać smakowitym słowem odsiebięciny). Widziałem Twoje starcie z jednym z tych młodych (?) gniewnych sprzed paru dni, zresztą to ono najpewniej stało się jedną z przyczyn podjęcia się przez Ciebie próby uporządkowania tego tematu.

Ja nie chcę i nie umiem się do grupy "gniewnych" ani "specjalistów" zaliczać (młody zaś już od dawna nie jestem), więc pozwolę sobie pozostać tylko skromnym obserwatorem. Swoje uprawnienia admińskie na commons trzymam w dolnej szufladzie, rzadko ją otwierając, najczęściej w okolicznościach nie budzących wątpliwości.

Na to wszystko nakłada się jeszcze brak dostatecznej zdolności porozumiewania się po angielsku (zwłaszcza w zawiłej prawniczej nomenklaturze), co przekłada się oczywiście na brak pewności siebie w wypowiadaniu się w tym języku i prowadzeniu polemik.

Pozdrawiam serdecznie Julo (talk) 17:38, 13 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Map ideas

At WikiProject Poland, could you get someone to make a map of the proposals in the Treaty of Marienburg and the Treaty of Radnot ? The latter is an especially interesting "what if" of history - it would have been a 17th century partition of Poland between Sweden, Brandenburg, Transylvania, Lithuania and Ukraine. Afaik no such map exists, anywhere. This is what WP is for. TIA am running away back into semi-retirement now! -Chumchum7 (talk) 18:14, 13 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Stanislaw Zulkiewski GA

[1] Masz czasem dostep do Nagielskiego?  Volunteer Marek  06:56, 14 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Tadeusz Kościuszko revert war

Hello :-) Hope you are well! On the Tadeusz Kościuszko there is some anonymous guy who keeps on deleting all the sources about Tadeusz Kościuszko's Belarusian roots, without giving any arguments or going to the talk page. He has a dynaic IP so I doubt it is possible to block him, I was wondering if we can protect the page so only registered editors could use it? Could you update me please on the procedure to use it? Danton's Jacobin (talk) 18:40, 15 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I might have to do that if he continues. Thank you :-) Danton's Jacobin (talk) 18:40, 15 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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