Talk:Los Angeles Clippers

Ownership

Missing a section on ownership. It's worth knowing that Donald Sterling is the owner, and knowing something about his personal and business dealings, since they have impacted the team to an extraordinary extent. The Clippers wouldn't be the Clippers if they had been owned by someone devoted to winning rather than some of the many unsavory things that are well known about him.

Worst Franchise in NBA History

This article never references the Clippers often cited status as the worst NBA franchise in history (and for that matter all of sports), nor mentions any of the futility that are inexorably tied to any conversation involving The Clippers during the majority of years from 1990 - 2010. Glaring omissions include any reference to the frequent criticism of Donald Sterling and Clippers various records of futility, which fueled the Clippers consistently being named the Worst Franchise in History. As such, it sounds as though this article is heavily corporately manipulated by the NBA and Clipper ownership. The Clippers are perennially considered "The Worst Franchise in NBA History," and "The Worst Franchise in Sports History." Sports Illustrated in its April 17th, 2000 issue, featured the Clippers with the title "The Worst Franchise in Sports History (and the man responsible)" Additionally, ESPN The Magazine cited the Clippers as the worst sports franchise out of 122 franchises considered. The Boston Globe called the "the worst franchise in league history" on December 16, 1999. On October 24th, 1993 the Sacramento Bee referred the Clippers as "having long since nailed down the distinction of being the NBA's worst franchise."

And even hometown sports reporter Bill Plaschke referred to them as "perhaps the worst franchise in professional sports," in March 22nd, 1999. Forbes cites them as 23rd in total valuation, despite being in the #2 market.

Their history of futility includes the second lowest win percentage of any NBA team (0.36 as of writing this), after the Grizzlies, who status as an expansion team with only 15 years of existence heavily weighs against their record. The Clippers have never won a division title, and have 15 last-place finishes. The Clippers, despite coming into existence in 1970, over a 40 year period amassed two of the top ten longest playoff droughts, including a 15 year playoff drought from 1977-1991 and a 8 season drought spanning 1998 - 2005. They currently are tied for the second longest playoff drought at 4 seasons.

Even the Chicago Cubs wiki page offers a section on the teams "Championship Drought," and most other historically inept teams at least reference their status. This article is not complete without a section devoted to The Clippers epic futility and at least some mention of the highly used and often cited label as "worst franchise in NBA history" during the period from the early 90s to 2010. [User: agentraiden|agentraiden]] 3:07, 24 November, 2010 —Preceding unsigned comment added by AgentRaiden (talk • contribs) 11:30, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

Individual season relevance

How relevant is all the information under the individual season sections? For example, the 2005-2006 section takes up a large chunk of the article, but that is not all relevant anymore. Perhaps these sections should be trimmed down to a couple keep points? [User:squeemu|squeemu]] 3:07, 8 November, 2007

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BetacommandBot (talk) 23:15, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Dantley

Added a reference to him in the Hall of Famer section. I believe I have his years with the franchise correct, and don't know (and couldn't find) his uniform # with the Braves. Sn14534 (talk) 11:52, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Notable player : Bob Kauffman

I thought Bob should have been added. He was Buffalo's first center and a three time NBA All-Star. Very underrated as a pro, Kauffman had been the #4 overall pick and was traded very early on, then slotted for expansion. A strong PF who could pass, shoot outside and rebound well, Kauffman was part of a potentially great line with Elmore Smith and Bob McAdoo, but then was dealt for Gar Heard. This guy never really got a far shot, but was a key early star for the Buffalo leg of the team's history. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jerjets11 (talk • contribs) 02:29, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Records

This statement

The Clippers are one of three teams (along with the Memphis Grizzlies and the Charlotte Bobcats) to have never won an NBA Championship,Conference Championship and a Division Championship in franchise history respectively.

is confusing. I think it means to say that none of these teams has won any of these titles. If so, the "and" should be "or". And why is the word "respectively" there? Autocorrelation (talk) 15:44, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

The Clippers remain in the L.A. metro area due to a large sports market able to support the Lakers and soon, a relocating Kings franchise if approved in Anaheim. Both the Clippers and Lakers played at the Honda Center on occassional games. The Clippers have played occassionally in the Long Beach Arena and interestingly, Long Beach is known for a harbor like San Diego when they used to play there. 71.102.30.215 (talk) 07:02, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

Logo

The Clippers changed their logo. It's a very slight change (I don't know if they even bothered to announce it), but it's already been put into effect (see their NBA website). Not sure if there's a good image of it available anywhere, but it should be changed on this article when possible. 76.167.253.199 (talk) 04:26, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

The section of 2005–06: Back to the Playoffs

I did a few readjustments there, but there is something I want to bring up here before I would change it on my own. In the first paragraph, there are two sentences that are undesirably vague about the subject material. First, the introduction sentence of the section is "The 2005-2006 season was a turning point for the team's overall image; a hot start marked by several wins over top teams caught the attention of many fans. I think the bolded part of the sentence needs rewording, due to its vague nature. I would like to state that some of those "top teams" could be elaborated upon, and the part which says "caught the attention of many fans" is also overly vague and it may even be necessary to eliminate it. The second sentence I'd like to point out about the first paragraph is the third sentence: "Elton Brand was chosen as a reserve power forward for the All-Star Game and articles have been run in many sports magazines giving recognition to the much improved team. Instead of stating that articles have been written about Elton Brand's position in the all-star game, how about there be displayed which magazines wrote the articles and what the articles said. For instance, instead of the vagueness of what is there currently, there could be (with the possibility of creating more sentences), this: the (date) issue of x magazine stated that [what the article stated, along with the citation of the respective article afterwards]. These are just suggestions now, but I do think the sentence really need to be changed. Thoughts? Backtable _{Speak to me}^{concerning my deeds.} 08:03, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

Buffalo Braves

I think there should be a separate page for the Buffalo Braves. There's one for the Minnesota North Stars. AmericanLeMans (talk) 04:43, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

Be bold and start one up if you think you can create a suitably detailed page for it. -DJSasso (talk) 15:48, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

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Origin of "Lob City" Nickname

Under the section "Enter Lob City," the article states

The team gained the nickname "Lob City" due to several alley-oop plays, usually from Paul to Griffin or Jordan.

In reality, the use of the phrase "Lob City" to describe the Clippers originated before Chris Paul had ever thrown a lob in a Clippers' uniform; video coverage showing Blake Griffin finding out that the Clippers had traded for Chris Paul revealed his reaction: "It's going to be Lob City, baby!"

Related links: Blake Griffin on Chris Paul: 'It's going to be Lob City!' , Clippers trade for Chris Paul: Blake Griffin reacts to Blockbuster Deal

TumericTJ (talk) 03:30, 23 August 2012 (UTC)TumericTJ