Talk:List of The Walking Dead (TV series) characters

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Glenn

Removing Glenn's ethnic identification of "Korean American". This is not done for any of the other characters, like T-Dog for example, and there is no reason to mention this as if it is so unusual or strange that it deserves special mention. Let's cut down on the "forever foreign" stereotype one piece at a time, shall we? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.5.122.95 (talk) 02:33, 18 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Disambig?

I'm wondering if we shouldn't rename this article or put a hatnote on it or something. I just noticed that the article for the comic characters has almost the same name: List of characters in The Walking Dead. We do mention the comic series and link to it but it seems like a hatnote or something might be prudent. I don't deal with disambig stuff very often though, so I wasn't sure. Millahnna (talk) 17:55, 27 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

They should honestly just be merged together. There's really no need for two pages with almost identical information. --DocNox (talk) 00:48, 18 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

No. With characters present in the television series that are not in the comic books, and vice versa, as well as the divergences in relationships, portrayals, etc., it is best that the two lists be separate. Just as there is a list of characters for the Southern Vampire Mysteries and a list for True Blood, there are clear differences between the paths the two casts follow. Pejorative.majeure (talk) 02:47, 18 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with Pejorative. Even though there inevitably exists some overlap between the characters in the comics vs. the TV series, they are not synonymous. I would sway towards keeping the two articles separate, but perhaps renaming them (disambig) to clarify that article A is for the comic characters and article B is for the TV series characters. Darwin's Bulldog (talk) 01:00, 19 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Those True Blood and Southern Vampire Mysteries pages are almost as badly written as these are, so I'm not sure that's a very good comparison. The point of these articles should not be to list every single character that has ever appeared and every little thing they have done, but it should be to provide real world information on those characters that are notable enough to even have any. Just because a character appeared in the comic or show doesn't mean they deserve to be on this page. Unless you can find real world information on them they shouldn't be here at all, and I'll venture to guess you'll have a hard time finding any outside the main characters. You might have a better chance with the TV characters since there are actors who have probably done interviews about them. But really most of this stuff would be much better placed on the Walking Dead wikia. Please see WP:NOTABILITY and WP:PLOT. I also see the comic character page has had a notability tag on it since August 2009 and still hasn't been fixed. It was also deleted because of this and only recently recreated, but as far as I can tell all the things that got it deleted are still true. My merge proposal was in the interest of making the page better as I honestly don't want to see it deleted again. We should not be describing every single differing plot point between the comics and the show. The characters are still essentially the same despite different things happening to them. --DocNox (talk) 05:10, 19 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I also don't see any compelling reason why these two lists should be separate. Kuralyov (talk) 03:08, 18 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I dont know if they, the tv series and the comic book, will run hand in hand all that often. It has been noted that the character Shane has already been killed off n the book, whereas in the tv show he is still on. While the characters do follow the book, the show has some differences. It would be needed to explain the difference between the book and the show. Lurchman (talk) 00:34, 3 November 2011 (UTC) No to merge It seems pretty obvious that the TV show and the comic should have separate articles unless they are nearly identical (which I think would be extremely unlikely, but others will have to answer that). There's never been any question about this in similar situations, and obviously the comic and the TV series are each notable in themselves. --11:32, 19 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The two should not be merged. one is talking about the comic book series and the other about a tv show. they are both very different things that should stay separated. there are some people in the comic book series that haven't shown up in the tv show, like Michonne and the Governor. 99.129.93.94 (talk) 17:46, 29 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I think merging could be a feasible option, but if there's a consensus against it, could we at least rename the two pages to List of characters in The Walking Dead (TV series) and List of characters in The Walking Dead (comic series), or something similar? The current names make opening the right list a bit of a guessing game. Frickative 00:15, 3 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I believe the discussion should be put to rest. Four major characters already have different plotlines, either existing long after or leaving long before their counterparts in the other media. It is not known if minor characters will return, other character development be seriously changed, etc. Other characters have not appeared at all. Also given Darabont's departure and the known production issues significant further plot developments in the comic series may never appear in the television adaptation. A combined character list could easily be too cumbersome and unwieldy. So my vote is still no to merge. Pejorative.majeure (talk) 03:10, 6 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I renamed the article "List of The Walking Dead (TV series) characters". If it isn't being merged, it has to be clearly distinguished from List of characters in The Walking Dead. Barsoomian (talk) 10:29, 21 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Don't. Since Season 2 began airing, a lot of different things have been happening to the TV series character that are not happening to their comic counterparts. Sophia doesn't even die and Dale is killed earlier. It's best not to merge them at all. I see no information about their TV counterparts being mentioned in List of characters in The Walking Dead as well. Bleubeatle (talk) 03:50, 29 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'd like to suggest that the current "List of The Walking Dead Characters" be deleted, and that "List of characters in the Walking Dead" be renamed "List of the Walking Dead Characters". Since the TV show and the comic book are sometimes different, every in universe differentiation between the two should be indicated within this new, unified article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.69.228.217 (talk) 04:09, 31 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Character pages

Pages now exist for the following characters:

--Another Believer _(Talk) 16:39, 1 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Dale Horvath

Regarding this statement in the Dale Horvath section: "Due to his age, survival skills, and rifle marksmanship, Dale may very well be a Vietnam Veteran much like his comic book counterpart, although this has not yet been revealed in the show." This is speculation non-encyclopedic. Recommend removing. — X S G 08:39, 5 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Merger proposal

The page List of The Walking Dead (TV Series) characters is practically a duplicate of this article. The only difference in the title, is the capitalization of the word "series", and per Wikipedia policy it should NOT be capitalized. Since both lists are large and may have had different information added to them, they should be merged instead of doing a simple redirect, so that no original information is missed. Fortdj33 (talk) 20:18, 9 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

As said in WT:WikiProject Television, there is no need to worry, as this is a simple case of "cut-and-paste" edit. Maybe this section should be blanked. --George Ho (talk) 21:02, 9 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Agree 100% with the merger proposal. The individual descriptions of the characters can specify major differences between the characters in the television show and comic books. This one's a no brainer. — Hun ter Ka hn 15:50, 8 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think its a bright idea. There are many characters in comics not in the show, and ice versa. It will complicate thngs. — Preceding unsigned comment added by James646 (talk • contribs) 16:27, 30 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Support - This split is a bit silly. For the most part, the lists are identical. If there are differences, it is better to have them in right next to each other than on two different pages. ▫ JohnnyMrNinja 00:40, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Support - the two cover the same territory. If there are TV-only (or comics-only) characters then it can be flagged up in the list. Seems like there is a consensus to sort this out. (Emperor (talk) 02:44, 19 October 2012 (UTC))[reply]
Oppose As was argued above earlier this year, the characters in the TV show and comics are diverging, and there are many with no counterparts. Both articles are substantial enough and different enough to be individual articles. Barsoomian (talk) 02:57, 19 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

renamed and reverted

Regarding these bold edits:

10:58, 7 November 2012‎ Neelix (Neelix moved page List of The Walking Dead (TV series) characters to List of The Walking Dead cast members: This is as much a list of cast members as it is a list of characters, and makes for a cleaner title.)
11:38, 7 November 2012‎ Barsoomian (Barsoomian moved page List of The Walking Dead cast members to List of The Walking Dead (TV series) characters over redirect: It's about the characters, not the actors)

I reverted the rename because it's primarily about the characters, not the actors who portray them. Aside from naming the actors, everything else is about what happens in the stories. Nothing about the "cast" per se.Barsoomian (talk) 03:44, 7 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The "Southern" Dixon Brothers.

Why are the Dixon brothers the only characters listed as Southern (one as a Southern "redneck", the other as a Southern racist). The series takes place in Georgia, and it is obvious from location, context and speech patterns that most, if not all, of the main characters are of southeastern US origin. Main characters such as Rick, Maggie and the Governor all have obvious Georgian accents, yet they are not listed as "Southern"? It is bigoted to list 'Southern' as a descriptor that is only associated with the negative stereotypes of being racist or a redneck (a derogatory term for a person from the rural South or Mid-West). I believe that this should be changed. Perhaps all the characters who are of Southern origin should be listed so, or if origin is of specific relevance to the Dixon brothers, maybe their sections should be re-worded so that the Southern descriptor is not used in a way that propagates negative stereotypes. I tentatively plan on making the change myself, but I'll wait a few days before making the changes I suggest to see if anyone has a valid argument against my suggestion. AJseagull1 (talk) 09:26, 2 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]