Talk:Barbara Radziwiłł

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To P.P.

Piotrus, ask these "modern researchers" to send me the histology report and I'll analyze it for you. In the mean time please don't add these kind of weasel-types of speculations into WK. I'm surprised, because you usually are not known to do so. Dr. Dan 02:06, 6 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I was just translating stuff from pl wiki. And yes, it's habitaully unsourced. Since you so strongly oppose to that, I don't care that much about this little detail.--_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk} 05:30, 6 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Keeping it Encyclopedic

After waiting a few days to see what "evidence" could be added to the speculation that B.R. died of uterine cancer (very uncommon in younger women), I am again removing this unverifyable information. Without getting into the medical, histological, and differential diagnosis possibilities, we simply do not know if her death was caused by cervical cancer (much more common in younger women), or an ectopic pregnancy, or many, many, other posibilities. And that includes possibilities unrelated to gynecological illnesses. Speculation and theories do not belong in an encyclopedia. Without evidence to the contrary I have removed it again. Would be happy to be shown proof, and have my mind changed. Dr. Dan 14:45, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Religion

I think it should be mentioned that Barbara Radziwiłł was a Calvinist; this fact was important in those times (and even today!). Tsf (talk) 13:23, 18 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Certainly - can you provide a reference for this? --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 18:50, 18 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

P.P., do you need this reference because you doubt the claim, don't believe the claim, or feel that all of W.P.'s articles should be peppered with "references", which typically are not found in most encyclopedia articles (line by line)? And Tsf, interestingly this Queen of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth is interred in the Roman Catholic Cathedral in Vilnius. Dr. Dan (talk) 22:21, 18 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Follow the policy.--_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 22:35, 18 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I'm quite familiar with the policy. Typically you're more verbose than that. It might be a little simpler to try to answer the question. Dr. Dan (talk) 04:03, 19 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I don't have any reference but I noticed that this fact is mentioned in the article about Bona_Sforza. Tsf (talk) 01:08, 22 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well, her father, Jurgis Radvila, was certainly a Calvinist, so maybe it's just "by assumption".radek (talk) 20:57, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You mean Jerzy Radziwiłł.--_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 18:47, 21 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Lithuanian?

Is there any reference that Barbara Radziwiłł spoke Lithuanian or it's just another assumption of Lithuanian "historians"? It looks like Lithuanian nationalists are at work as one of the users commented article about Barbara Radziwillowna in the German-language wiki. Could you, please provide any link to it or any book title with the page (in English, German, French, Polish, Lithuanian, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Czech, Russian. etc) where prove of her proficiency in Lithuanian can be found? What is the language which is called in the article "White Russian"? And why the Polish name "Nowogrodek" but not Belarusian "Navahradak" is used in the text? This looks idiotically when one sees the name "Vilnius" (which appeared only in the 19th century (see Tomas Venclova "Eseje") in the same article? CityElefant (talk) 13:32, 21 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ghost

A long time ago I read that the story with summoning her ghost was based on the true event, however the magician actually used a double. Is it true?