Jump to content

Talk:Red Sorghum (novel)

Page contents not supported in other languages.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This is an old revision of this page, as edited by 65.94.76.126 (talk) at 01:57, 7 May 2013 (→‎Requested move). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

WikiProject iconChina Unassessed
WikiProject iconThis article is within the scope of WikiProject China, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of China related articles on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.
???This article has not yet received a rating on Wikipedia's content assessment scale.
???This article has not yet received a rating on the project's importance scale.
WikiProject iconLiterature Unassessed
WikiProject iconThis article is within the scope of WikiProject Literature, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Literature on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.
???This article has not yet received a rating on Wikipedia's content assessment scale.
???This article has not yet received a rating on the project's importance scale.
WikiProject iconNovels Unassessed
WikiProject iconThis article is within the scope of WikiProject Novels, an attempt to build a comprehensive and detailed guide to novels, novellas, novelettes and short stories on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the project and contribute to the general Project discussion to talk over new ideas and suggestions.
???This article has not yet received a rating on Wikipedia's content assessment scale.
???This article has not yet received a rating on the project's importance scale.
WikiProject iconBooks Unassessed
WikiProject iconThis article is within the scope of WikiProject Books. To participate in the project, please visit its page, where you can join the project and discuss matters related to book articles. To use this banner, please refer to the documentation. To improve this article, please refer to the relevant guideline for the type of work.
???This article has not yet received a rating on Wikipedia's content assessment scale.
WikiProject iconChina: Entertainment Unassessed
WikiProject iconThis article is within the scope of WikiProject China, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of China related articles on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.
???This article has not yet received a rating on Wikipedia's content assessment scale.
???This article has not yet received a rating on the project's importance scale.
Taskforce icon
This article is supported by the Chinese-language entertainment taskforce.

Title of book and chapters

"Red Sorghum" is the title under which this book is published in English, and, hence, the logical title for the English wikipedia page. Similarly, I have changed the title of the volumes to those appearing in the English translation. Gothicartech's previous edit (21:43 29 Jan 2013) changed the name and introduced the chapter titles. I appreciate that Gothicartech probably knows Chinese better than I do (since I know no Chinese), but Howard Goldblatt is the translater that Mo Yan has chosen. Unless there is a clearly documented comment from Mo Yan himself, we should use Goldblatt's translation.

Requested move

Red Sorghum ClanRed Sorghum – "Red Sorghum" is the title appearing on the front and back covers of this book and on pages 1 and 2 in its official English translation. Alternatively, "Red Sorghum: A Tale of China" is the title appearing on page 3 and on Amazon. "Red Sorghum Clan" appears to be Gothicartech's translation. "Red Sorghum" is also the title of a movie which is based on this book, but this monir ambiguity should not cause problems on wikipedia. 86.143.192.66 (talk) 22:45, 5 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • Move to Red Sorghum (novel) - not sure what new IP user is proposing. The current title "..Clan" is found in Wang Jing's book 1996, but is rare thereafter. Goldblatt's translation "Red Sorghum - A Novel of China" is not visible on Amazon.com cover, nor too commonly used, and Red Sorghum A Family Saga is nearer, but maybe preferred as a way to avoid (novel) per WP:DAB. As for notability this looks like a case of Red Sorghum (novel) Red Sorghum (film), except that it is pretty well inconceivable that a book could more more notable than a film of the book when a film is this famous, and WP:PRIMARYTOPIC here. A dab isn't needed per TWODABS, ... note sorghum bicolor is linked in the book article. In ictu oculi (talk) 03:55, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment a disambiguation page should be built for the three options. (film, novel, plant) -- 65.94.76.126 (talk) 05:22, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose the target is a different article, and the nominator shows no evidence that in the English language world that the novel has primarity over the film, of if he wants to merge the film and novel articles together, or rename the film (thus needing a multimove request) or what to name the film article. -- 65.94.76.126 (talk) 05:24, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]