Talk:List of cakes

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Pink cake

which cake is pink? --24.231.177.197 04:04, 18 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well, Mr Kipling's French Fancies come in yellow, pink and brown varieties. SP-KP 23:04, 18 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Fondant fancies are often pink, as the first answer to the question implied. One answer to your question is any cake that uses pink icing. By the way, do make sure you get punctuation correct - you should have used a capital "p" at the start.

Actually, it is the person who responded to the original question who should have got punctuation correct, as well as the person who posed the question. It is a capital "W" which should have started the word "which" - there was no need for a capital "p" in "pink" in that question. Can I also say that "Talk pages" (or "Discussion" pages in Wikipedia are meant for discussion of the article as it appears in Wikipedia, not the topic per se. However, I shall confess that when I first began to edit Wikipedia, I was guilty of ignoring that rule myself - and i appreciate the initiator of the question may have been a newcomer. I do not wish to go against Wikipedia: Please do not bite the newcomers. ACEOREVIVED (talk) 19:53, 23 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Going back to this question, the article on Sno_Balls claims that these cakes are pink, but as I say on the talk page, I think that these cakes as they are sold in the United Kingdom are normally brown. ACEOREVIVED (talk) 16:18, 7 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Inclusion criteria

I think the criteria for inclusion need to be clarified. Is this all cakes? Dessert cakes? Is fish cake legitimate? What about urinal cake, which I saw was added at one point in time. ChildofMidnight (talk) 06:51, 9 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

On this subject, I don't really think Kendal Mint Cake should be here. It's a sweet (US: candy) not a cake. Peridon (talk) 19:42, 17 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I saw this article and had a similar reaction when I saw that fish cake was included here. I think that if this article is going to be included here, we should at least bifurcate this article into sweet cakes and savoury cakes. ACEOREVIVED (talk) 20:04, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Potato cake

Could we include potato cake?ACEOREVIVED (talk) 20:25, 21 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

There is a Wikipedia article on potato cakes, which can be found on:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potato_cake

So, I would be in favour of potato cakes being included here. ACEOREVIVED (talk) 09:52, 22 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I tried to do it tonight (Michaelmas Day 2011) but my edits were not very good, so I have now cut it - I shall leave it to some more skilful at tabulation than me to add potato cake. I also raise it here to ask whether we should really be including savoury cakes here. ACEOREVIVED (talk) 19:47, 29 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The article does say it's limited to dessert cakes. Potato cakes don't fit that description. I'm not sure that "savoury cakes" are really a category.-gadfium 23:54, 29 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your feedback. Yes, I take your point about exclusion savoury cakes after the notice which is now heading the article. I might have been a little confused by the fact that fishcake was at one time in the article, but that must have been removed some time during April 2011 (if one clicks on the history of this article, and goes back to March 2011, you will see what I mean). I do not know why they were ever in the article - I do not even think of them as being a cake! ACEOREVIVED (talk) 09:44, 30 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Suggested additions

There is no Dundee cake here, and if we are to have Eccles cake, why can we not have Chorley cake? Also, if we have tea cakes, should we also have scones? ACEOREVIVED (talk) 23:41, 27 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Or how about adding meringue? ACEOREVIVED (talk) 23:43, 27 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

And as today is All Soul's Day, I must mention the Soul cake! ACEOREVIVED (talk) 12:06, 2 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Good to see that at least one of the above comments is now out of date, as Dundee Cake is now in the list! ACEOREVIVED (talk) 16:16, 7 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Donauwelle - has its own article that calls it a cake, has a picture, tastes great :) --91.19.133.13 (talk) 14:46, 5 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Query about Swiss Roll

It says here that Swiss Roll originated in the United Kingdom, but the article on Swiss roll says that it originated in Central Europe, possibly in Austria or Hungary. Does any one know which is correct? ACEOREVIVED (talk) 23:46, 27 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This website:

http://www.null-hypothesis.co.uk/science//item/top_ten_british_swiss_roll

points out that it is only in Britain where these cakes are known as "Swiss rolls" (for example, in the United States, they are known as "jelly rolls") so perhaps this article is referring to origins of the name, not the cake. ACEOREVIVED (talk) 11:17, 3 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

One big table

I would like to join the tables to make them into one sortable table. Objections? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 17:25, 16 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Are you talking about joining the list of the most popular cakes, according to a "Radio Times" survey, with the main table? As the person who added the list of favourite cakes in the United Kingdom, I do not mind if you make that into table form and integrate it with the main table, just so long as it will still be obvious as to which section of the table is the basic list of cakes, and which is the list of favourite cakes ranked in order of preference. ACEOREVIVED (talk) 15:14, 22 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry. Scratch that. I'm a balloonhead. I failed to inspect the article. List of breads and List of pies are the ones needing action. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 15:57, 22 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Image size

I would like to enlarge the images to 120px like in List of sandwiches. I think it would improve the visitors' experience. Objections? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 16:01, 22 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Done Anna Frodesiak (talk) 22:32, 6 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Queen Elizabeth Cake

I deleted the reference to Queen Elizabeth Cake because to click on that only takes one to the article on Cake. ACEOREVIVED (talk) 20:52, 6 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I undid your edit before seeing this talk page post, because you didn't delete the whole line leaving some markup behind. However, it does look like this is a valid cake, and it originally had a stub article. Restoring that stub and expanding it with some references would be better than deleting it from the list.-gadfium 01:50, 7 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Getting this in alphabetical order

This list is not in alphabetical order. If you look at where whoopie pies are, they come just before the cakes beginning with "H", whereas to get this in alphabetical order, they should go at the bottom of the list. ACEOREVIVED (talk) 11:42, 8 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I can run a macro on it and do it in 3 minutes. I'll get to it soon. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 12:08, 8 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Query about Battenberg

Does battenberg really have apricot jam? It certainly has marzipan around it, but I am not sure that the jam is always apricot jam. ACEOREVIVED (talk) 08:23, 24 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sesame seed cake

Wasn't the sesame seed cake in here at one time? Or was I thinking of the category "Cakes"? ACEOREVIVED (talk) 22:23, 8 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Couldn't find its removal in the history edit summaries, so I just added it to the table. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:17, 8 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

We need to put a doughnut here

Having looked at the list, I am amazed to see that it does not include doughnut.This is truly amazing - it should go in, and some one could then point out that not all doughnuts have a hole in the middle. ACEOREVIVED (talk) 19:37, 29 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Nor does it have a currant bun. ACEOREVIVED (talk) 10:48, 30 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ginger cake

There does not appear to be ginger cake - there is ginger bread, but no ginger cake. Ginger cake and gingerbread are not the same tning - ginger cake is soft and spongy, whereas gingerbread is hard. ACEOREVIVED (talk) 10:37, 31 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Query about fruit cake

Where does the information that fruit cake is of Caribbean origin come from? This is not something that I have ever heard before. ACEOREVIVED (talk) 14:57, 28 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

In fact, the article on the fruit cake says that the earliest recipe for fruit cake was in ancient Rome - which is rather a long way from the Caribbean. (talk) 14:59, 28 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I believe that this is the cake that is often referred to as "Genoa cake" - as if it comes from Genoa. ACEOREVIVED (talk) 15:49, 18 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Eclairs

There should be eclairs added. ACEOREVIVED (talk) 12:57, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I guess there should be some overlap, like donuts being in cake and bread. But, eclair? That's really a pastry, right? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 01:30, 20 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I have never ever thought of eclairs as pastries, especially not the chocolate eclairs - I have always regarded them as cakes. ACEOREVIVED (talk) 16:26, 8 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I've never, ever thought of eclairs as cakes. I would guess 99% of people know them only as pastries. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:42, 9 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Are muffins cakes?

There seems some dispute about whether muffins should be here, on the grounds that some claim they are, and some claim they are not, cakes. The Wikipedia article muffins does describe muffins as a "semi-sweet cake" - but it also describes them as quick bread. Looking at the recent history of the article, muffins were deleted and then added back - it seems as if we need a discussion on this talk page about whether muffins should be included on this list. ACEOREVIVED (talk) 14:41, 25 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

If you type both cake and muffin into Google you do get a few matching entries. However, this website:

http://www.diffen.com/difference/Cake_vs_Muffin

does claim that there is a difference between muffins and cakes, claiming that cakes are sweet and sometimes iced whereas muffins are sweet bread(not cakes) and are never ever iced. ACEOREVIVED (talk) 15:51, 21 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Should we add flapjacks?

Should we add Flapjack_(oat_bar) to this list? ACEOREVIVED (talk) 14:47, 25 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

About the Angel Cake

Looking at the history of the article, I see that there has been dispute about whether angel cake originated in the United Kingdom or the United States. It seems that it did originate in the United Kingdom - I wonder whether the person who made the edit which said it came from the U.S.A. was thinking of the angel food cake, a cake which did originate in the United States. ACEOREVIVED (talk) 20:29, 17 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Mince pies

How about adding the mince pie to this list? ACEOREVIVED (talk) 15:54, 5 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

No. Samatarou (talk) 06:35, 6 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I take your point - perhaps this would be better off in the List of pies, tarts and flans, where it is already included. ACEOREVIVED (talk) 11:18, 7 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Photograph of angel cake

The photograph of the angel cake does not really look like the cakes that are sold in the United Kingdom known as angel cakes - they are slightly larger, and more likely to be yellow in colour. I wonder whether this photograph should be removed and replaced with a photograph of a different cake. ACEOREVIVED (talk) 09:24, 13 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Changing name

I hope that no one mind, but I changed the name of what was formerly down here as a French fancy to a fondant fancy - in the United Kingdom, where I live, these cakes are more commonly called fondant fancies than French fancies (and the list does have the United Kingdom down as the origin of this cakes). ACEOREVIVED (talk) 16:50, 28 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Having said that, I have noticed that lately (as of 2013), when supermarkets start to sell these cakes, they now normally do call them "French fancies" so I am happy if some one wishes to change the name back to its original name. ACEOREVIVED (talk) 13:50, 5 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It seems to be the cake company Mr_Kipling that has started to call them "French fancies - perhaps it could go in this article how this well-known cakes company calls them this name. ACEOREVIVED (talk) 15:26, 11 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Suggestions for two new additions

I have suggestions for two new additions to this list - marsh mallows, and syrup cake. ACEOREVIVED (talk) 16:07, 13 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Suggested website for help

I have a suggestion for a website for help with this article:

http://allrecipes.com/Recipes/Desserts/Cakes/main.aspx

although I must say, a lot of cakes in it are already on the list, such as upside-down cake or cup cake. ACEOREVIVED (talk) 13:33, 24 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]